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    http://www.uscg.mil/npfc/About_NPFC/osltf.asp

    TO quote the above site:

    Uses of the Fund

    With the consolidation of these funds and the collection of a tax on the petroleum industry, the Fund increased to $1 billion. Fund uses were delineated by OPA to include:

    * Removal costs incurred by the Coast Guard and EPA
    * State access for removal activities;
    * Payments to federal, state, and Indian tribe trustees to conduct natural resource damage assessments and restorations;
    * Payment of claims for uncompensated removal costs and damages;
    * Research and development; and
    * Other specific appropriations.

    The Energy Policy Act of 2005 increased the maximum size of the Fund to $2.7 billion.





    Given they know what Valdez has cost and will cost, I think Congress dropped the ball in not increasing the size of the "fund" beyond $2.7B........but wait.......there was no fund:

    WALL STREET JOURNAL: “Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell Of Kentucky Said Tuesday That Democrats Were Raiding The Fund To Pay For Programs Not Related To Oil-Spill Cleanup. New Revenue Raised By The Levy ‘Ought To Be Used To Clean Up Spills,’ He Said.”
    http://www.floppingaces.net/2010/06/...-pet-programs/

    Never let a good crisis go to waste, especially if you can use it for a shakedown for your pet projects.

    This gang of crooks has to go.

    The lot of them.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Well, the bozo has already apologized for his first apology. Moron....

    The only crooks I saw have already been replaced in the Federal agency
    that allowed BP is set their own safety standards on drilling in deepwater.
    They shouldn't be allowed to be the judge of how much damage is being
    done by their own carelessness & greed.

    From everything from how much crude is escaping from the broken well,
    to how much damage has already been done, they have lowballed the
    numbers. They cannot be trusted to get anything right.
    I've Been Boo'd

    I've been Frosted






    Men, it has been well said, think in herds. It will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
    Charles Mackay, Scottish journalist, circa 1841

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    BP has done what they were allowed to do.


    CONGRESS has oversight. The Executive Branch has regulatory power through the Dept. of the Interior.

    Whose fault is this?
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    It's almost like... I've said it before.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Borrow...&asset=&ccode=

    When the government "stimulates" an economy with money that is not real (i.e. 'poofed' out of thin air) this kind of stuff happens.

    Not my words or ideas. Economic NATURAL law.


    I know.... Its all the evil bankers fault.
    "Unlike most of you, I am not a nut."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    BP has done what they were allowed to do.


    CONGRESS has oversight. The Executive Branch has regulatory power through the Dept. of the Interior.

    Whose fault is this?
    Well, DUHHHHHHHH LH


    George Bush. Republicans. "Anybody who thinks Obama is a loser wanna be despot."

    Yeesh. How long you been here?


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    I can't help but go back to my belief in admitting an error is the greatest learning opportunity we get... And how the President is utterly incapable of doing so. Along with his brain dead acolytes.
    "Unlike most of you, I am not a nut."

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    "If the enemy opens the door, you must race in."

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    I am kinda hoping/wishing that the spill stops on it's own, that way everyone will stand there, fingers hidden in their underwear, trying to figure out what's going on.


    I think that would be poetic justice.

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    If the oil flow stopped on its' own there would be millions of dollors spent on an investigation as to why, while everything else goes to hell in the gulf. That is how these idiots think.

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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37839756...ary/?gt1=43001


    Of course, you cannot bag on the boss.

    But,
    When the the boss wears many hats, especially an arsehat?

    Go for it.


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    There are wimps in the white house.

    I even blame the groundskeepers.

    Morons.

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    You cannot show the level of disrespect Gen. McChrystal did for the CinC and remain an effective commander.

    Pres. Truman fired dugout doug, same deal, different war.

    He had to go.
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    You cannot show the level of disrespect Gen. McChrystal did for the CinC and remain an effective commander.

    Pres. Truman fired dugout doug, same deal, different war.

    He had to go.
    Understood.

  11. How droll! The regressives are now blaming the oil disaster on not enough government!!!! I love it!

    And the White House groundkeepers are morons????

    A read of the interview in Rolling Stone is incredible. So many reasons this guy must go. Overwhelming arrogance, insulting our allies, a totally overblown sense of his own importance and intelligence, disrespect for his position and the system that employs him and....how stupid could he get....Rolling Stone - what Huffington Post wouldn't talk to him???

    Did he self-destroy? Is he really that convinced of his own cleverness? The question of why he did the interview...why he chose Rolling Stone...why he thought he could get away with such disrespect and disregard for the responsibilities of his position are far more interesting questions.

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    There is no such thing as coincidence. Gen. McChrystal, I think, did this on purpose. He is 'falling on his sword' so to speak. It can't be an accident that he said these thing to Rolling Stone.

    I read about super tight RoE over there now. I know from first hand experience what happens when stupid strict RoE is in effect. Body bags get filled and soldier morale plumments. WTF is the point of carrying your weapon if you cannot use it to do your job?

    It's what happens when book 'smart' wanna be professors get the keys to the military.


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    'Regressives'.... How cute that you belive that. What of the modern 'Progressive' agenda is a new idea? I seem to be able to find (failed) examples of the policies being pushed in examples of recent and not so recent, history. Hmmmm....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    There is no such thing as coincidence. Gen. McChrystal, I think, did this on purpose. He is 'falling on his sword' so to speak. It can't be an accident that he said these thing to Rolling Stone.

    The worst thing to have happen to you is to work for a pinhead.

    The second worst thing to have happen to you is to work for a pinhead that thinks they have all the answers.

    Sometimes falling on a sword is the only option.

    That shows you willingness to make a stand.


    I do realize that you have to "respect the post, not the man", it's the pinhead option that scares me.

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    Just saw this cartoon and thought, "how appropriate"!!

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    " Loose lips sink ships",they also sink Generals. If McC. coudn't get a plan
    that he designed to work, than he should resign. He has shown the world that
    he was a frustrated, undisiplined, loose canon & not fit to command.
    I've Been Boo'd

    I've been Frosted






    Men, it has been well said, think in herds. It will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
    Charles Mackay, Scottish journalist, circa 1841

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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    " Loose lips sink ships",they also sink Generals. If McC. coudn't get a plan
    that he designed to work, than he should resign. He has shown the world that
    he was a frustrated, undisiplined, loose canon & not fit to command.

    Are you talking about the Navy?

    If he was a loose cannon, he'd would have come out to the ranks of the arty boys.

    McC is bound by the "rules of engagement" -no I'm not talking about a prenup..

    I read that many of the troops were disgruntled that they were not allowed to "carry out the mission" they were tasked to do.

    Like Col. Jessop said?

    We sleep pretty darn good because we have guys like him on the wire.


    Handle the truth?

    LOL, I don't think any Illinois politico would know the truth if it came out of the woodwork and bit them on the earlobe.

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