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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Thankfully, the Bible cannot be taught in public schools. After all, Jesus Christ was a socialist and teaching the Bible in school might be an attempt to spread a socialist agenda!
    Indeed. With one HUGE difference. He taught us to be kind to each other of our own free will. Not to have Big Brother FORCE us to be charitable. We should be good to each other beacause its the right thing to do and not because there is a gun to my head if I am not.

    Its the same line of thought as the "Christians" who try to use FEAR to lead people to Christ. "Believe in Him or you going to ROT IN HELL!!!"


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  2. So it is the Ten Suggestions? not the Ten Commandments?

    I am ashamed for and embarrassed by people who think that a message to stay in school, work hard, take responsibility for your education espouses socialism.

    I guess by that measure, when Bush II read a book about a goat to school children he was espousing beastiality.

    What fools...what morons!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    So it is the Ten Suggestions? not the Ten Commandments?
    God is perfect. Mankind is far from it. Thus, due to our sinful nature, we rarely adhere to His Commandments. That does not mean we should not try.

    Now, I know what you might want to say.... But I also believe God wants us to adhere to his Commandments by free choice.

    I am ashamed for and embarrassed by people who think that a message to stay in school, work hard, take responsibility for your education espouses socialism.
    Oh, if it that was the only message... But, as usual, you seem to omit the necessary context. Recall the original version of his idea, per the letter Arne Duncan had sent to schools, had in part a request to "write papers where the students could come up with ideas on how to help the President."

    THAT is typical "progressive" indoctrination.

    I guess by that measure, when Bush II read a book about a goat to school children he was espousing beastiality.
    Again, had you not omitted the necessary context, you could be correct here.

    What fools...what morons!
    There ya go! THATS the ES we know and love.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    Thus, due to our sinful nature, we rarely adhere to His Commandments.
    What a pity. To which ones do you not adhere?

    Here's an example of a president asking school children to help him by sending a dollar to Afghanistan.

    Bush wants dollars

    Guess Bush was a socialist too!

    (I borrowed the moron and stupid line from another poster...should I give him a footnote?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    What a pity. To which ones do you not adhere?
    I often do not honor the Sabbath. Work is that busy. I often take the Lords name in vain. Try as I might to avoid it. I AM only human ya know.

    As for the rest of them I think I do pretty well.


    How about you?

    Here's an example of a president asking school children to help him by sending a dollar to Afghanistan.

    Bush wants dollars

    Guess Bush was a socialist too!
    He sure was! He ended up being a "conservative" by European standards. Lookie there, we agree on something.

    (I borrowed the moron and stupid line from another poster...should I give him a footnote?)

    It might help... Save me some unecessary keystrokes.
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  6. Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country! Oh my gosh! Another socialist...

    So..let's recap...

    Jesus Christ - socialist

    John F. Kennedy - socialist

    George W. Bush - socialist

    Barak H. Obama - socialist

    Encouraging kids to get an education - socialist

    Even Joe Scarborough is making fun of this silliness

    It is just so embarrassing! Morons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country! Oh my gosh! Another socialist...

    So..let's recap...

    Jesus Christ - socialist

    John F. Kennedy - socialist

    George W. Bush - socialist

    Barak H. Obama - socialist

    Encouraging kids to get an education - socialist

    Even Joe Scarborough is making fun of this silliness

    It is just so embarrassing! Morons
    Whose opinion is it that matters so much that you are embarrassed before them?
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    Whose opinion is it that matters so much that you are embarrassed before them?
    I am not only embarrassed before people whose opinion matters "so much" to me. I am also embarrassed before people whose opinion does not matter much to me.

    I'm embarrassed by the petty and mean-spiritied behavior that is being exhibited.

    Name calling.

    People who can't find anything better to complain about than the president of the United States encouraging kids to get an education.

    When I was in school we had to watch the State of the Union Address and discuss it. I don't remember anyone getting excited about that. No parents pulled their kids out of school because they did not like the current president!

    I'm willing to bet you that a whole lot of presidents...and presidents' wives have visited schools and not created such angst - even though distracting them from reading, writing and arithmetic!

    But putting that aside. It is the name calling...Nazi...Socialist... Communist...It is sickening.

    Just as some people feel the need to apologize on behalf of the state in which they live...I feel the need to apologize for the behavior of some of my fellow countrymen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    Whose opinion is it that matters so much that you are embarrassed before them?
    There's a difference between asking for people to be "social" and forcing people to do it.

    As PS alluded to in his posts.

    We are not all perfect, we do what we can, the best as we can while living. The sin is in believing that someone is perfect and never having the huevos to look 'into' the person who tells you they are perfect.

    I wonder how the prez would do if he had to confront all the lies and other BS that surrounds him??

    Like going to church and being unconcious for 15-20 years?
    Like dodging questions about sumbag friends?
    Or lying to the public by promising all kinds of good crap then backing down.
    (here you can pretty much blame all politicians-but uneasy is the head that wears the crown?)

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    What about the FW Chucky Rangel, and the Green Job Czar- both those FAs talk their racist BS - when they feel the heat of people figuring out what sumbags, liars and DBs they are, they fall back on the favorite lines that blame everything on people who are lighter in skin than they are.

    A fave talk show host used to say, We are all black on the inside.

    Possibly the worst sin that people have committed is to fall under the spell of the false prophet they elected to office.

    Vanity, It really sucks when you think that way, then find out that foot of the god you have worshipping at has the same dog crap that everyone before him stepped into.

    If you can walk on water or levitate, you don't have that problem.
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  10. I am reminded of the commercial...where is the beef???

    I guess some people just think if they keep saying socialist...socialist...socialist it will become true.

    What is missing from this is any....well socialism.

    I don't worship at anybody's feet or anything else.

    I just don't get how "get an education" becomes socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    I am not only embarrassed berore people whose opinion matters "so much" to me. I am also embarrassed before people whose opinion does not matter much to me.

    I'm embarrassed by the petty and mean-spiritied behavior that is being exhibited.

    Name calling.

    People who can't find anything better to complain about than the president of the United States encouraging kids to get an education.

    When I was in school we had to watch the State of the Union Address and discuss it. I don't remember anyone getting excited about that. No parents pulled their kids out of school because they did not like the current president!

    I'm willing to bet you that a whole lot of presidents...and presidents' wives have visited schools and not created such angst - even though distracting them from reading, writing and arithmetic!

    But putting that aside. It is the name calling...Nazi...Socialist... Communist...It is sickening.

    Just as some people feel the need to apologize on behalf of the state in which they live...I feel the need to apologize for the behavior of some of my fellow countrymen.
    Ok, now I really don't understand. If there are people whose opinion doesn't matter to you, how can you be embarrassed then? For ex.: if my child behaved badly in public, I couldn't be embarrassed for him, that's impossible and he's obviously not embarrassed or he'd discontinue the behavior. I could only be embarrassed for myself in the presence of others because of my apparent lack of disciplinary skills. If no one was there to observe my child's obnoxious behavior, I couldn't be embarrassed. So when you say that you're embarrassed, who is it exactly that is embarrassing you? You say that you don't like name calling; I don't like it either. You say that you're disgusted by it; so am I. However, I'm not embarrassed because I don't name call. Disgusted, absolutely. Embarrassed, impossible. And to whom are you apologizing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    I am reminded of the commercial...where is the beef???

    I guess some people just think if they keep saying socialist...socialist...socialist it will become true.

    What is missing from this is any....well socialism.

    I don't worship at anybody's feet or anything else.

    I just don't get how "get an education" becomes socialism.
    This is what I posted in another thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    People should be able to disagree w/Obama and to protest and/or keep their kids home from school that day w/out being villified. He should address school kids if he so desires as other presidents before him have done. However, "Teachers are also given guidance to tell students to "build background knowledge about the president of the United States by reading books about presidents and Barack Obama."" This is unnecessary. If he wants to do a PSA, sure, why not? To "give teachers guidance" is out of his realm and he should stay out.
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  13. I am apologizing to anyone who is offended by the name calling.

    Editing because I think I understand your question now Medusa!

    If I had a son who was ill-behaved I would be embarrassed whether I knew the people who witnessed the ill-behavior or not, whether I respected the opinion of the people or not...of even if there were any others who witnessed it. It is the behavior that embarrasses me.

    Does that help?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country!
    What Obama is asking, "What can you do for your president". Thats a big difference.

    Jesus Christ - socialist
    Jesus wanted people to be charitable, he didnt advocate the redistribution of wealth by force.

    George W. Bush - socialist
    With the example you gave...

    Bush wants dollars.

    Bush was asking children to be compassionate and charitable. He didnt force them to give up their dollars to give away to others.

    Barak H. Obama - socialist
    While it does seem that way the jury is still out.

    Encouraging kids to get an education - socialist

    Even Joe Scarborough is making fun of this silliness

    It is just so embarrassing! Morons
    Encouraging kids=socialist? No.

    Government lesson plan=socialist? Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Name calling.
    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    What fools...what morons!
    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    Morons


    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
    People who can't find anything better to complain about than the president of the United States.
    We just got done with 8 years of this, and you object to it now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
    When I was in school we had to watch the State of the Union Address and discuss it. I don't remember anyone getting excited about that. No parents pulled their kids out of school because they did not like the current president!
    You also didnt get a lesson plan from the Whitehouse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
    I'm willing to bet you that a whole lot of presidents...and presidents' wives have visited schools and not created such angst - even though distracting them from reading, writing and arithmetic!
    Because they were special and rare occasions, I bet you are right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
    But putting that aside. It is the name calling...Nazi...Socialist... Communist...It is sickening.
    I bet you werent sickened by those names over the last 8 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
    Just as some people feel the need to apologize on behalf of the state in which they live...I feel the need to apologize for the behavior of some of my fellow countrymen.
    You feel the need to apologise for the behaviors/opinions of others?
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