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  1. I am shocked...absolutely SHOCKED..a news organization belonging to Rupert Murdoch engaged in deplorable, disgusting behavior?!?!?!?

    Murdoch

    Now we know what he values in his news organizations...if it might cost him money - shut it down...if it only hurts or destroys people - keep it going...we all must have our priorities after all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    if it only hurts or destroys people - keep it going...we all must have our priorities after all!
    Like CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and the rest of the MSM outlets? Im sure you mean just like them.

    There really isnt much of a difference anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat2u2004 View Post
    Bummer.
    Im actually shocked that she is shocked. I thought she was so much more informed, her post makes her seem like she has been living in a cave with a caveman and a cavecat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Im actually shocked that she is shocked. I thought she was so much more informed, her post makes her seem like she has been living in a cave with a caveman and a cavecat.
    Yeah.....we must welcome her to the world beyond her street.
    Actually, I did read the article, and even tho I never got to the shocked stage, I did reach the flabbergasted stage. As for a reaction to the OP's shockedness....well no....I never felt a thing.
    Did you know that Rupert is an Aussie ??? Perhaps that's why the OP was so shocked.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat2u2004 View Post
    Did you know that Rupert is an Aussie ??? Perhaps that's why the OP was so shocked.
    Unlike our shocked friend I dont have a problem admitting that there is something I didnt know, and I didnt know Rupert was a Kangaroo humpe- Kangaroo wrangle- an Aussie who appreciates the love of Kangaroos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Unlike our shocked friend I dont have a problem admitting that there is something I didnt know, and I didnt know Rupert was a Kangaroo humpe- Kangaroo wrangle- an Aussie who appreciates the love of Kangaroos.
    Yup. No margarita's or egg rolls where Rupert comes from.
    He's just an Aussie boy


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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    I am shocked...absolutely SHOCKED..a news organization belonging to Rupert Murdoch engaged in deplorable, disgusting behavior?!?!?!?

    Murdoch

    Now we know what he values in his news organizations...if it might cost him money - shut it down...if it only hurts or destroys people - keep it going...we all must have our priorities after all!

    When all of the advertisers pulled their ads, then & only then did he
    get it. I hope he loses tons more money from all the lawsuits to come
    from this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    Like CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and the rest of the MSM outlets? Im sure you mean just like them.

    There really isnt much of a difference anymore.
    Um, did you follow the story at all? Folks at the paper he is shutting down went far beyond the tactics of most of the normal muckraking media outlets. They not only hacked into people's phones, repeatedly, regardless of the consequences, they even did so in the case of a missing child, and deleted messages on her cell phone, making her poor parents - and the investigators - believe she was alive somewhere and accessing her phone, when instead she has been murdered already.
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    Question. The NEA just met here in Chicago and announced that they're endorsing Obama for President in 2012. There are Republicans who are still entering the race, but the NEA has already endorsed Obama versus an unknown opponent. Are they saying that they believe Obama would be better than any possible Republican candidate? What if the Republicans identify someone who can out-Obama Obama? On the other hand it seems like labor unions go toward Democratic candidates in general. I'm not happy with everything Obama has done, but he's got problems everywhere he looks. The economy? Problems. Gang violence and drugs? Big problems. Iraq and Afghanistan and terrorism? Even bigger problems. Joblessness? Problems. Health care? Long-term problems as Medicare runs out of money and Boomers and Gen X'ers like me get older. But he's only a little more than halfway through his first term and big change takes time. I would not want to be President even for a minute, no way, no how.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    Um, did you follow the story at all? Folks at the paper he is shutting down went far beyond the tactics of most of the normal muckraking media outlets. They not only hacked into people's phones, repeatedly, regardless of the consequences, they even did so in the case of a missing child, and deleted messages on her cell phone, making her poor parents - and the investigators - believe she was alive somewhere and accessing her phone, when instead she has been murdered already.
    Did we read the same story? Now stop bringing logic into this thread please.
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    Excuse me for being dumb, but can someone explain to me just what in the world the debt ceiling is? I'd never heard of it until this year.

    How does raising it help us? Is it the amount we can borrow or the amount other countries will loan us or what?
    No matter what anyone does, someone some where will be offended some how!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces View Post
    Excuse me for being dumb, but can someone explain to me just what in the world the debt ceiling is? I'd never heard of it until this year.

    How does raising it help us? Is it the amount we can borrow or the amount other countries will loan us or what?


    You are not dumb. I don't think many people outside of Washington DC know
    or understand what the debt ceiling is (including me).

    This explains it a bit.

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/polit...ing_05-16.html

    It's the amount of money that the Government is allowed to borrow this
    year or any year. The debt limit is set by Congress & can be raised by them.
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    Thanksgiving 2022

    "Winston, come into the dining room, it's time to eat," Julia yelled to her husband. "In a minute, honey, it's a tie score," he answered. Actually Winston wasn't very interested in the traditional holiday football game between Detroit and Washington.

    Ever since the government passed the Civility in Sports Statute of 2017, outlawing tackle football for its "unseemly violence" and the "bad example it sets for the rest of the world," Winston was far less of a football fan than he used to be. Two-hand touch wasn't nearly as exciting.

    Yet it wasn't the game that Winston was uninterested in. It was more the thought of eating another Tofu Turkey. Even though it was the best type of Veggie Meat available after the government revised the American Anti-Obesity Act of 2018, adding fowl to the list of federally-forbidden foods, (which already included potatoes, cranberry sauce and mince-meat pie), it wasn't anything like real turkey. And ever since the government officially changed the name of "Thanksgiving Day" to "A National Day of Atonement" in 2020 to officially acknowledge the Pilgrims' historically brutal treatment of Native Americans, the holiday had lost a lot of its luster.

    Eating in the dining room was also a bit daunting. The unearthly gleam of government-mandated fluorescent light bulbs made the Tofu Turkey look even weirder than it actually was, and the room was always cold. Ever since Congress passed the Power Conservation Act of 2016, mandating all thermostats-which were monitored and controlled by the electric company-be kept at 68 degrees, every room on the north side of the house was barely tolerable throughout the entire winter.

    Still, it was good getting together with family; or at least most of the family. Winston missed his mother, who passed on in October, when she had used up her legal allotment of live-saving medical treatment. He had had many heated conversations with the Regional Health Consortium, spawned when the private insurance market finally went bankrupt, and everyone was forced into the government health care program. And though he demanded she be kept on her treatment, it was a futile effort. "The RHC's resources are limited," explained the government bureaucrat Winston spoke with on the phone. "Your mother received all the benefits to which she was entitled.
    I'm sorry for your loss."

    Ed couldn't make it either. He had forgotten to plug in his electric car last night, the only kind available after the Anti-Fossil Fuel Bill of 2021 outlawed the use of the combustion engines-for everyone but government officials. The fifty mile round trip was about ten miles too far, and Ed didn't want to spend a frosty night on the road somewhere between here and there.

    Thankfully, Winston's brother, John, and his wife were flying in. Winston made sure that the dining room chairs had extra cushions for the occasion.
    No one complained more than John about the pain of sitting down so soon after the government-mandated cavity searches at airports, which severely aggravated his hemorrhoids. Ever since a terrorist successfully smuggled a cavity bomb onto a jetliner, the TSA told Americans the added "inconvenience" was an "absolute necessity" in order to stay "one step ahead of the terrorists." Winston's own body had grown accustomed to such probing ever since the government expanded their scope to just about anywhere a crowd gathered, via Anti-Profiling Act of 2022. That law made it a crime to single out any group or individual for "unequal scrutiny," even when probable cause was involved. Thus, cavity searches at malls, train stations, bus depots, etc., etc., had become almost routine. Almost.

    The Supreme Court is reviewing the statute, but most Americans expect a Court composed of six progressives and three conservatives to leave the law intact. "A living Constitution is extremely flexible," said the Court's eldest member, Elena Kagan. " Europe has had laws like this one for years."
    We should learn from their example," she added.

    Winston's thoughts turned to his own children. He got along fairly well with his 12-year-old daughter, Brittany, mostly because she ignored him. Winston had long ago surrendered to the idea that she could text anyone at any time, even during Atonement Dinner. Their only real confrontation had occurred when he limited her to 50,000 texts a month, explaining that was all he could afford. She whined for a week, but got over it.

    His 16-year-old son, Jason, was another matter altogether. Perhaps it was the constant bombarding he got in public school that global warming, the bird flu, terrorism or any of a number of other calamities were "just around the corner," but Jason had developed a kind of nihilistic attitude that ranged between simmering surliness and outright hostility. It didn't help that Jason had reported his father to the police for smoking a cigarette in the house, an act made criminal by the Smoking Control Statute of 2018, which outlawed smoking anywhere within 500 feet of another human being.

    Winston paid the $5,000 fine, which might have been considered excessive before the American dollar became virtually worthless as a result of QE13. The latest round of quantitative easing the federal government initiated was, once again, to "spur economic growth." This time they promised to push unemployment below its years-long rate of 18%, but Winston was not particularly hopeful.

    Yet the family had a lot for which to be thankful, Winston thought, before remembering it was a Day of Atonement. At least he had his memories. He felt a twinge of sadness when he realized his children would never know what life was like in the Good Old Days, long before government promises to make life "fair for everyone" realized their full potential. Winston, like so many of his fellow Americans, never realized how much things could change when they didn't happen all at once, but little by little, so people could get used to them.

    He wondered what might have happened if the public had stood up while there was still time, maybe back around 2011, when all the real nonsense began.
    "Maybe we wouldn't be where we are today if we'd just said 'enough is enough' when we had the chance," he thought.

    Maybe so, Winston. Maybe so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat2u2004 View Post
    Thanksgiving 2022

    "Winston, come into the dining room, it's time to eat," Julia yelled to her husband. "In a minute, honey, it's a tie score," he answered. Actually Winston wasn't very interested in the traditional holiday football game between Detroit and Washington.

    Ever since the government passed the Civility in Sports Statute of 2017, outlawing tackle football for its "unseemly violence" and the "bad example it sets for the rest of the world," Winston was far less of a football fan than he used to be. Two-hand touch wasn't nearly as exciting.

    Yet it wasn't the game that Winston was uninterested in. It was more the thought of eating another Tofu Turkey. Even though it was the best type of Veggie Meat available after the government revised the American Anti-Obesity Act of 2018, adding fowl to the list of federally-forbidden foods, (which already included potatoes, cranberry sauce and mince-meat pie), it wasn't anything like real turkey. And ever since the government officially changed the name of "Thanksgiving Day" to "A National Day of Atonement" in 2020 to officially acknowledge the Pilgrims' historically brutal treatment of Native Americans, the holiday had lost a lot of its luster.

    Eating in the dining room was also a bit daunting. The unearthly gleam of government-mandated fluorescent light bulbs made the Tofu Turkey look even weirder than it actually was, and the room was always cold. Ever since Congress passed the Power Conservation Act of 2016, mandating all thermostats-which were monitored and controlled by the electric company-be kept at 68 degrees, every room on the north side of the house was barely tolerable throughout the entire winter.

    Still, it was good getting together with family; or at least most of the family. Winston missed his mother, who passed on in October, when she had used up her legal allotment of live-saving medical treatment. He had had many heated conversations with the Regional Health Consortium, spawned when the private insurance market finally went bankrupt, and everyone was forced into the government health care program. And though he demanded she be kept on her treatment, it was a futile effort. "The RHC's resources are limited," explained the government bureaucrat Winston spoke with on the phone. "Your mother received all the benefits to which she was entitled.
    I'm sorry for your loss."

    Ed couldn't make it either. He had forgotten to plug in his electric car last night, the only kind available after the Anti-Fossil Fuel Bill of 2021 outlawed the use of the combustion engines-for everyone but government officials. The fifty mile round trip was about ten miles too far, and Ed didn't want to spend a frosty night on the road somewhere between here and there.

    Thankfully, Winston's brother, John, and his wife were flying in. Winston made sure that the dining room chairs had extra cushions for the occasion.
    No one complained more than John about the pain of sitting down so soon after the government-mandated cavity searches at airports, which severely aggravated his hemorrhoids. Ever since a terrorist successfully smuggled a cavity bomb onto a jetliner, the TSA told Americans the added "inconvenience" was an "absolute necessity" in order to stay "one step ahead of the terrorists." Winston's own body had grown accustomed to such probing ever since the government expanded their scope to just about anywhere a crowd gathered, via Anti-Profiling Act of 2022. That law made it a crime to single out any group or individual for "unequal scrutiny," even when probable cause was involved. Thus, cavity searches at malls, train stations, bus depots, etc., etc., had become almost routine. Almost.

    The Supreme Court is reviewing the statute, but most Americans expect a Court composed of six progressives and three conservatives to leave the law intact. "A living Constitution is extremely flexible," said the Court's eldest member, Elena Kagan. " Europe has had laws like this one for years."
    We should learn from their example," she added.

    Winston's thoughts turned to his own children. He got along fairly well with his 12-year-old daughter, Brittany, mostly because she ignored him. Winston had long ago surrendered to the idea that she could text anyone at any time, even during Atonement Dinner. Their only real confrontation had occurred when he limited her to 50,000 texts a month, explaining that was all he could afford. She whined for a week, but got over it.

    His 16-year-old son, Jason, was another matter altogether. Perhaps it was the constant bombarding he got in public school that global warming, the bird flu, terrorism or any of a number of other calamities were "just around the corner," but Jason had developed a kind of nihilistic attitude that ranged between simmering surliness and outright hostility. It didn't help that Jason had reported his father to the police for smoking a cigarette in the house, an act made criminal by the Smoking Control Statute of 2018, which outlawed smoking anywhere within 500 feet of another human being.

    Winston paid the $5,000 fine, which might have been considered excessive before the American dollar became virtually worthless as a result of QE13. The latest round of quantitative easing the federal government initiated was, once again, to "spur economic growth." This time they promised to push unemployment below its years-long rate of 18%, but Winston was not particularly hopeful.

    Yet the family had a lot for which to be thankful, Winston thought, before remembering it was a Day of Atonement. At least he had his memories. He felt a twinge of sadness when he realized his children would never know what life was like in the Good Old Days, long before government promises to make life "fair for everyone" realized their full potential. Winston, like so many of his fellow Americans, never realized how much things could change when they didn't happen all at once, but little by little, so people could get used to them.

    He wondered what might have happened if the public had stood up while there was still time, maybe back around 2011, when all the real nonsense began.
    "Maybe we wouldn't be where we are today if we'd just said 'enough is enough' when we had the chance," he thought.

    Maybe so, Winston. Maybe so.
    And All The Freedoms Were Slowly Snuffed Out.

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