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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Absolutely. After all, Hippa rights disallow mental health record checks with NICS. It's more important to sequester those records than to allow them in background checks.
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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Absolutely. After all, Hippa rights disallow mental health record checks with NICS. It's more important to sequester those records than to allow them in background checks.
Pork chop murder.
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/nation...ray-in-florida
Will the alledged shooter be grilled?
I would agree with you regarding mental health record checks. But there are also the "gun show" loop holes that should be closed. There are so many things that could be - and should be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
Unfortunately we will hear about gun owners' rights and the politicians will be too scared to do what they should do.
p.s. It is HIPAA - Health Insurance Portability & Accountability Act.
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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Rights that the vast majority of gun owners have never abused.
The politicians should be scared to touch basic rights. If they weren't I'd worry.
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Originally Posted by aTailOf2Kitties
You can't tighten the reigns on the owners, but we can & should ban the sale of "assault " type weapons with the potencial to kill a whole bunch
of people with little effort by the shooter. Tell me what good use you know of for a weapon that shoots so many rounds of ammo in just minutes?
Assault weapons are a scam foisted on the public to scare people.
I can think of a number of formerly legal yet now banned (they AWB killed the companies that made the weapons) semi-auto .22s that were banned because of cosmetics under the unlamented AWB. They were no more dangerous than a squirrel hunting rifle, but they looked scary!
The action of the weapon means absolutely nothing, unless you're going to restrict people to single shot weapons. and even then it's a specious argument.
Excuses, excuses, excuses. Don't change anything...don't fix anything because in 1776 ...blah...blah...blah.
It is so sad.....
All too true. Cannot believe Americans are still clinging to 2nd Amendment ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Who has said don't change or fix anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
I mentioned repairing a very large and real loophole in current law. The gun show loophole account for a miniscule number of transactions. Just like the Assault Weapons ban, it's pointless window dressing with no real impact for anyone other than lawful gun owners.
Adding mental health records checks to the NICS system would close a huge loophole which allows many to acquire firearms who shouldn't have them.
Blah, blah, blah ... still clinging to the right to have guns in your bedrooms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
If you're gong to insist on discussing this like a juvenile, please find another thread to pollute.Quote:
Originally Posted by catlady1945
While we're picking nits, the US Constitution was debated and passed in 1787, became the law of the land in 1789, and the Bill of Rights was ratified in 1791. without the accompanying bill of rights, the Constitution would not have passed, as the states felt that the unmodified document gave the Federal Government too much power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
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People are already offering up solutions to this tragedy. There isn't one.
Evil people exist. They always will. Some people are simply born broken. They want to rape, kill, hurt, whatever.
You can prepare for them, look out for them, and do your best to be vigilant, but you can't legislate them or counsel them to not be broken.
That's awful. Police officers, my goodness. Gun laws are a very tricky issue indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by aTailOf2Kitties
LH, a comment, though- mental health advocates aren't going to like this one; they are going to argue for the person's right to privacy. But I think my right to be safe from a person with a history of mental illness purchasing a gun trumps that person's right to privacy. If you step up to a counter and say you want to buy a gun, you should be prepared for your background to be checked. You don't like that, don't buy a gun. Or they will just get around it by acquiring a gun illegally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
There's no need to violate privacy, just have the system set up to flag the app for mental illness without specifying what the illness is. If the individual feels that they are being unfairly targeted for whatever reason, then let them go to court and have a judge rule on the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by cassiesmom
I know people with absolutely immaculate records who could legally own firearms due to the NICS not having anything to do with a mental health check. Frankly a couple of them shouldn't be able to have anything more dangerous than a flexipen, but because their mental competency isn't part of the equation, they can legally own firearms if they so desired.