Let me explain it to you. Some people work...you know...have jobs. And those jobs often take them out of town...you know...to work.
Originally Posted by RICHARD
And these people who...work...want to make sure they can vote. So they get an absentee ballot or a mail in ballot.
Perhaps you are not familiar with the concept.
Of course, there are other reasons people get absentee ballots - they may have difficulty getting to the poll - disabled, bedridden, elderly. I am sure you consider that a "scream" too. Lazy buggers!
What I find funny is people who are constantly laughing at others instead of looking at themselves and seeing just how ridiculous they are.
I wish I didn't have to go to the polls to vote, and could do an absentee ballot.
It's not that I'm lazy and don't want to go out just for that, but it seems that this state likes to juggle around the polling districts. I used to vote at the elementary school in town. Lots of parking and no walking and no waiting in long lines. Then a few elections ago it got changed to a different area - about the same distance to drive - but no where to park other than along the street if you can be lucky enough to find a parking spot, and then walk and walk and walk to get to the building and wait in long lines. Then it got changed back to the school, and now it's been changed again back to the long walk/long lines area. :mad: Sorry, but with my impaired balance and a bad knee that is scheduled for surgery, I don't walk a lot. I'll at least drive over there tomorrow, and if I can park close, then I'll vote. If not, I'll just turn around and come back home! :(
Do you have a court house near by? Our district has also changed things around like you mentioned no place to park, long lines. We went to the court house & voted ahead of time. There was plenty of parking with no long lines.
Originally Posted by pomtzu
Originally Posted by pomtzu
My 'absentee ballot' rant all about a guy I knew who would always vote that way.
He had no health problems - he was just too lazy to go the polls....He lived in an affluent area/neighborhood and just couldn't be bothered to make a trip.
My old job allowed you to take two hours to vote, so people would bug out early and vote.
This early voting snafu is stupid, a waste of people's time and funny -
I have waited hours in line to see Pink Floyd, get concert tickets watch a torch pass by and some other funky stuff.
Waiting hours to vote? I don't think so.
We were discussing the problems and D came up with this solution, Polls open Saturday and close on Tuesday.
8 to 8 every day, for everyone.
That way no one can complain and it's a level playing field and while we are at it?
Announce the results a few days later, make everyone wait and give the west coasters a chance to vote, the local elections/races suffer because when the 'winner' is announced in the national elections, people there give up and say, "Why should I vote when the election's over......."
I wasn't complaining about anyone's views re: absentee voting - I get that! I was just venting my frustration at what I've personally encountered. For those just plain too lazy to go out, then I hope they aren't the first ones to complain that the wrong (in their eyes) candidate won - but those are the ones that typically complain the longest and the loudest!
In California, if an employee is required to work from 7:00 am to 8:00 pm they must be given up to two hours off to vote with pay.
Originally Posted by RICHARD
Most if not all states have laws similar although very few states require pay.
But all are only if the employee is unable to get to the polls before or after work.
And Pomtzu - I have had the same frustration - getting to the polls with little time to spare* and finding out my polling place has been changed! I remember once racing through my neighborhood trying to find the right place. Have you checked into an absentee ballot? Most states provide them without much fuss.
Personally I enjoy going to the polls - it feels more participative. I have never known anyone who voted absentee because they are "too lazy to go to the polling place" but what of it? As long as they vote why would I judge them as to what method they use?
* getting out of work on time
Here is an interesting article...Voting
The United States has one of the lowest voter turnout going. Why wouldn't we want to make it easierfor people to vote?
Is voting suppose to be some "prove you are worthy of it" exercise?
If someone wants to vote early, or by mail-in ballot...why is that a bad thing -- worthy of scorn?
I would save my scorn for people who do not bother to vote.
What happens if you're in the hospital on Election Day and you are unable to vote, I wonder? Can you get a ballot late?
Once again I'm impressed by how orderly the process is. I know where I go to vote, I'll show up, might have to wait in line, someone will take my name and give me a ballot. No commotion, no big deal. Sometimes I see other people there who live in my building. I can vote for the candidate I think will do the better job. The voter after me might disagree, but no harm comes to either of us for voting. Then in January either Obama will be inaugurated again, or his term will end and Romney will take over, but that will be a peaceful switch. So we'll see what happens.
Stories about voting
I am always amazed by the horrible stories about voting. I have never had a problem even though I have lived in crowded cities, the suburbs, the country..... never a problem. Voting in Vermont is easy because so very few people live in the state. The folks at the voting sites know all the people voting so no need to carry ID. It is always organized, pleasant and fun! I wish it could be that way for many more people. I cannot believe people have to wait in line for hours. What is with that? Why don't the people organizing it, create bigger and better voting conditions? How hard can it be? Is it the expense? It just seems as though voting is discouraged in some areas and that is wrong. Maybe mail in for everyone would be easier!
So everyone, go out and vote today. May the best man win. Fingers crossed for my candidate though! ;)
There is a cartoon in the paper today about the 'second most powerful person in the world', it shows a pic of the White House, the first? A pic of a person in a voting booth.
Originally Posted by sasvermont
Again, people have had four years to think about this and how many years before the hanging chad fiasco.
We don't pay attention to the things that impact our lives, until we are slapped in the face by them.
Voting is discouraged in some areas because we don't encourage ourselves beforehand.
Not only that, think about the lawsuits that will come up from the 'voting fiascos'.
Saddam Hussein ran flawless election in Iraq for years.
Even I could predict the winner, with 100% of the vote- drum roll please - SADDAM HUSSEIN!!!
Maybe we should get Baghdad Bob to announce the elections results?
So one party is supposed to be racist and misogynistic and all I hear on one channel is the war on women and all about the black and latino vote.
Holy crap, what a waste of humanity these people are.
Race baiting, name calling and the feminist BS, now colored - pun intended - with religious rants about Judeo-Christian values?
Some moron - speaking for the 'latino bloc' just said "we demand respect".
The "united latino" front is a myth. We have our own racism and dislike of the different groups inside this catch-all group.
We'll get respect when we get out shiat together and stop this nonsense. The racism will end when we can all swap colors or go color blind...the "war on women"?
I guess that war will be won when we can swap genitals, until then?
I think I'll go over to "democrazy plaza' and ice skate my arse into the wonderful feeling that we are all one group of people while the moderators above divide us up into voting groups....
Ev'rything is divided
Nothing is complete
Ev'rything looks impressive
Do not be deceived
You don't have to wait for more instructions
No one makes a monkey out of me
We lie on our backs, feet in the air
Rest and relaxation, rocket to my brain
Snap into position
Bounce till you ache
Step out of line
And you end up in jail
Bring me a doctor
I have a hole in my head
But they are just people
And I'm not afraid
We have nothing in our pockets
But we have nothing left to offer
Faces pressed against the window
Hey! they are just my friends
Check this out don't be slick
Break our backs it goes like this . . .
We are born without eyesight
We are born without sin
And our mama protects us
From the cold and the rain
We're in no hurry
sugar and spice
We sing in the darkness
We poen our eyes (open up)
I can't believe it
And people are strange
Our president's crazy
Did you hear what he said
Business and pleasure
Lie right to your face
Divide it in sections
And then give it away
There are no big secrets
Don't believe what you read
We have great big bodies
We got great big heads
Run-a-run-a-run it all together
Check it out - still don't make no sense
Makin' flippy floppy
Tryin to do my best
Lock the door
--Making Flippy Floppy, talking heads.
My nearest polling place is a neighbor's garage!
Originally Posted by sasvermont
If I didn't have to work I would love to work in a polling place on Election Day. Often it seems the process is slowed by those who are checking in the voters.
Here's to two more years of absolute and utter gridlock as we kick the can a little further down the road.
I wonder if Gov. Romney will take the hint this time? This makes 7 years of uninterrupted campaigning for the Oval Office, and he still lost. Is he going to try for 12 years of being a professional candidate? (BTW, the first 2 of those years he was SUPPOSED to be running the Commonwealth of Massachusetts)