Kiki's Breed?? *pics*

I was wondering what everyone thought what breeds Kiara has in her. Of course, it does not matter - she is 100% cute to me. I've had so many guesses though...

Beagle mix, Black & Tan Coonhound mix, Rottie mix, Dobie mix, etc.

Her paper said Rott mix. She weighs around 40-50 lbs (Depending on how much swimming she does!) but, she is TINY! She is highly active and tennis ball, frisbee, fetching obsessive! LOVES water.

Here are some puppy pictures of her...
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/...a2/PUPPY/4.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...e/f7d5e640.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...9/f7d5e3ef.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...c/f7d5e047.jpg

And some of her today:
Her markings on neck/chest/tummy. *Edited to add* I also noticed she has a slight dark brown tint in her tain. It REALLY shows in sunlight. Almost like a chocolate color.
http://petevents.com/~simba/kikibreed1.jpg
http://petevents.com/~simba/kikibreed2.jpg
http://petevents.com/~simba/kikibreed3.jpg

Soo.. what breeds do you see?

I do see rottie in her and dobie and a little of hound. (she could be a black and tan coonhound, dobie, rottiie mix..:D Whatever she is, she's a VERY pretty girl!! :)

She definetely has the rottie coloring but not the body type at all, she looks like she is mixed with a thinner less stocky breed, not sure what. Like you said she is 100 percent cute.

She may not have any rottie in her at all, besides the coloring I don't see rottie at all. Maybe a dobie, greyhound mix...

I see dobermen. I thought she was a purebred dobermen with natural ears!! She may be coonhound a little.

All I know is that she's 100% Adorable Mutt. :D

I really don't see rottweiler, I still think the coloring comes more likely from black and tan coonhound, maybe dobie, I'd think that over rottie. One of my old co-workers had a black and tan and she reminds me of Ki, the way she barks, holds her tail, etc. as well as the "speckled" kind of tan/black fur she has on her belly, behind her ears, etc. (you know what I'm talking about. ;) ) As to what else I have no idea, some smaller breed (she really is a lot smaller than she looks in pictures!), most likely she's a mix bred with a mix who knows.....all I know is she is 100% adorable. :D

I've always wondered if Ki had some dobie in her, because of her size & shape. You've noticed that her coloring is just like my Rosie's - black, tan, white on chest, and Rosie was definitly part rotti, you could tell by her build, plus she was like 70 lbs. KiKi is so much finer boned, though, and doesn't have a rotti head at all. And the way that girl takes to water, well, :rolleyes: ya gotta wonder if there isn't a bit of lab in her somewhere.

Maybe dobie, coonhound and lab? I have always thought she has some dobie in her. She is an adorable mix thats for sure! :D

Because she's a delicate girl, such a teeny one compared to the breeds like Dobes, it coupld be that she's part Miniture Pinscher instead of Doberman. They have the same coloring, the Mini Pin is the older of the two breeds. I don't see even a smidge of Rottie in her, she's far too fine-boned, no blocky shape to her head or body ... I think they guessed that because of her coloring as a pup. And she's very small for a Dobe mix, even. When she's by herself, she looks the right shape, but she's a peanut!

Maybe Beagle/Mini Pin, maybe - hey - does she have webbed feet? That's often Labbiness showing ...

I don't see Rottweiler, the shelter could easily have mistaken that because as a tiny girl her coloring was that of a Rott but she looks more lightbodied and I think probably Doberman, she has a fairly Dobie head but could be the black and tan coonhound too. I would problably go with one of those over Rotty. She's sure a cute little girl though. MIght be a dobie mixed with a smaller type of dog to cause her to be tiny.

Yes, her feet are webbed.

I also added in the main post that she has a really dark brown/chocolate coloring to the top of her tail.

I definitely see some Rottie in her head.. or it could just me. I'm no expert. But I also see lots of Dobbie in her too.

I've always thought of her as a Doberman/Catahoula mix or maybe Dobe/Lab. In my opinion, I think she's much to 'delicate' looking to be a Rottie mix and judging by her pics, she doesn't have enough undercoat (does she have an under coat at all?). Whatever she is, she's one of the most beautiful mixes I've ever seen!

ETA:
Dobermans really aren't that big, most females I know are between 50-60lbs. Keeva is 45 pounds right now but she's not done filling out yet, but I think she'll be about 50ish pounds when fully gorwn. Also, the white could definitely be from the Dobie side if that's what is in her. A lot of Dobes (especially backyard bred ones) are showing up with tons of white.

I'm thinking because shes got the Rottie marking but not the body maybe a Dobie would be the mix and something that has white in them...hmmm. Oh wait I just read Tango's mommies post (I see where the white comes from now)

Kiara has always stumped me! Somehow I don't see any of those breeds in her, but all of the thoroughly mixed dogs I have seen loose the color black and are almost always tanish. The webbed feet is a clue though, but at the moment I can't really think of any webbed breeds that might fit what she is.

I'd say maybe Doberman/Whippet? I'd say she's probably too small to be Doberman/Greyhound but she has a rather petite frame like a whippet, and her tail reminds me of Adele's (she's half greyhound). She's very pretty. :)

http://petevents.com/~simba/kikibreed2.jpg

Is that merling or just the sun shine? If it's merling/merle patches, I REALLY think she could be a Dobe/Catahoula/Whippet mix.

http://terrificpets.com/images/uploa...reedsadv57.jpg
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http://www.parimadobermanns.homestea...ody15mths1.JPG
(Natural eared Dobe for better reference...)
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http://home.planet.nl/~brom0038/snuf4.JPG

I see some type of sighthound due to her delicate build and slightly arched back/noticeable tuck-up.

Edited to add: Now that I see her head and the comparisons between the Dobe and Catahoula, I have to say that that may be her mix. Many dobes have very delicate builds due to their ancestry (Greyhounds), so she may or may not have Whippet in her. That would explain her size, however. Catahoulas are rather large dogs and tend to range from 55 pounds and more. The smallest females should range around 20" at the withers.

One of my favorite things to do sometimes is go to Dogster and use the advance search feature to see what different breed combos look like. I've tried to figure out what else may be in Tasha before because supposedly her mom was GSD/greyhound and her dad was unknown, however I just cannot get any clues. She looks VERY similar to GSD/greyhound and GSD/whippet mixes I looked at.

Anyway, I tried a few different combos seeing if I could come up with anything similar to Kiara. One thing I noticed in almost all the rottie mixes there was the very distinct, blocky, mastiff/rottie type head on them, so I just honestly don't think she is a rottie mix, or if she is that it is way back in her lineage. I always thought that as a pup, she reminded me so much of a coonhound pup I helped rescue a few years back, so I did a search on coonhound mixes.

Here is a dobie/coonhound mix
http://granite.dogster.com/pix/dogs/...1136512433.jpg

http://granite.dogster.com/pix/dogs/...1136512009.jpg

Here is a coonhound/unknown pup
http://granite.dogster.com/pix/dogs/34/2934/2.jpg

Dobie/beagle mix
http://granite.dogster.com/pix/dogs/...1136223150.jpg

http://granite.dogster.com/pix/dogs/...1136223030.jpg

Dobie/unknown
http://granite.dogster.com/pix/dogs/...1109993725.jpg


Ok I better quit playing around with that instead of working, but I think it's fascinating. She really could be any number of mixes, but one thing is for sure, she's pure precious!

Jess, Are you sure those aren't pictures of her!?!? That last one certainly could have fooled even me. It's what I see 24/7!


Thank you all for the nice comments about my lil girl. Everytime I read a new reply I turn around and kiss her. :p

OMG! That looks exactly like her

I have been wondering for a while what lil Kiki's breeds are, she has me stumped :p. Would i be silly to suggest maybe a little bit of Lab??? there is something about her, maybe the ears that remind me of a lab.

It was good seeing her bubba photos again :D.

You know, no matter what she is.. I've always thought she was always a beauteous looking animal. :)

I can almost recognize everyone's suggestion when I look at her picture. Whatever our Kiki is, resulted in an absolutely gorgeous, adorable, smart young lady. Next time you turn around, Kay, give her a kiss from Aunt Karen.
I'm dying to know what Mz K-lo is too. I instantly see GSD but she has white paws and under her tail, soft, longish hair and big eyes and floppy ears. Likes to dig and herd.

According to Dog Fancy Mag, in response to a question I asked them about genetics by blood tests, it looks as though this may be possible in the future. Wouldn't that be so fun?

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According to Dog Fancy Mag, in response to a question I asked them about genetics by blood tests, it looks as though this may be possible in the future. Wouldn't that be so fun?

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You know.. I've always wondered about that. And I'd go for it if it were available. :D:D

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Thank you all for the nice comments about my lil girl. Everytime I read a new reply I turn around and kiss her. :p

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:D Well I guess we are just going to have to keep this thread going then (not that I think she is deprived of kisses normally :p ). I never really knew anything about coonhounds, I am surprised by how much Kiara does resemble them. Guess I should read up on them.

My friend has a dog that is about a year of age that she rescued from another friend in NJ last year. The dog looks a LOT like Kiki.

I know her dog is part Dobe & I can't remember the other breed. I just emailed my friend asking for a pic & the other breed, just waiting for her to respond back.

She is also very petite like Kiki.

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Is that merling or just the sun shine? If it's merling/merle patches, I REALLY think she could be a Dobe/Catahoula/Whippet mix.

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Raustyk is a pure bred Rottie and she has some spots on her that look almost merle like in Kiki but it is actually just the color of the roots of her fur. It's a little hard to explain without looking right at it but the base of her fur is brown and the tips are black in some spots.

He muzzle reminds me a lot of a rottie but everything else shouts dobie to me, she looks quite a bit like my friend's gal Matrix, who is a dobie/rottie cross and a very very smart girl as well, but she's larger in size than Kiara. Both lovely ladies :D

No matter what her breed is,I just wanna say that she is absolutely GORGEOUS!!! Wow, Kay, what a dog!!

Ok I heard back from my friend.

Her dog Michi is Dobe/Aussie. She's got the color of a Dobe, shorter hair like a Dobe, the size of an Aussie but slim like a Dobe.

Here she is:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ics/michi5.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...ichicrabs2.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...onlounging.jpg

Some sort of Hound... and I definetly see some Dobie and Rottweiler in her! :D

check her out, shes a lab/dobie mix
http://www.thepetcenter.com/pho/02_09_02_pup.jpg

now a dobie/hound
http://www.animaldefenseleague.org/pics/1673.jpg
and hes stats are: She is wiry, strong, and pretty good on a leash. Spider gets along well with dogs, she loves to play fetch, she likes water, and she catches pretty well........ any resemblance......

hey i also found some manchester terrier mixes that look pretty much alike, mayeb she even has some

or how about this breed : austrian black and tan hound
http://www.hondkopen.nl/foto%27s/loo...acke/hoofd.jpg

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Originally Posted by dappledoxie

He muzzle reminds me a lot of a rottie but everything else shouts dobie to me

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That's what I've always thought too.

I would say not part min pin, they're 10 pounds at the most. Standard Pinschers on the other hand are between 25-35 pounds.

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Originally Posted by Giselle

Is that merling or just the sun shine? If it's merling/merle patches, I REALLY think she could be a Dobe/Catahoula/Whippet mix.

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She doesn't have to ahve any sort of merle in her to be part Catahoula, actually. Catahoula's come in a lot of colours which includes blk/tan, red/tan etc. I think they can be solid coloured aswell, but I'm not sure :)

This picture really makes her look part Dobie

http://petevents.com/~simba/kikibreed3.jpg