Sophie's Parents (aww lol)

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11-30-2005, 07:58 PM
clarebear

Sophie's Parents (aww lol)

Does anyone else think this is weird?

Sophie is a yellow Labrador and her mother was BLACK and her father was CHOCOLATE

but how come she is yellow?
11-30-2005, 08:00 PM
Vette

I danno if this is true or not,, but the lady we got Kirby off of said that his dad was black. but she forgot what color the mother was. :(

and when i give Kirby a bath,, he has patches of darker skin here and there but you really have to be looking. LOL

and people keep calling him a 'apricot'. hes the strangest looking apricot ive ever seen.

this is an apricot.
he looks nothing like it.

http://www.mulberryfarm.com/poodle_Jagger-apricot.htm (crappy picture.. ill see if i can find something better)
11-30-2005, 08:01 PM
clarebear

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Originally Posted by Vette

I danno if this is true or not,, but the lady we got Kirby off of said that his dad was black. but she forgot what color the mother was. :(

and when i give Kirby a bath,, he has patches of darker skin here and there. LOL

awww thats so cute lol
11-30-2005, 08:02 PM
Flatcoatluver

actually its not werid, it very commen the dog would come out yellow, :D
But do you like yellow labs better then black?
11-30-2005, 08:03 PM
clarebear

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Originally Posted by Flatcoatluver

actually its not werid, it very commen the dog would come out yellow, :D

LOL Sophie was the 2rd of the last to find homes

no wonder she wasnt picked lol
11-30-2005, 08:05 PM
Flatcoatluver

see I knew people that bred a irish setter and yellow lab together and they only got 1 yellow pup and 5 black pups! :rolleyes: its weird how it happens
11-30-2005, 08:07 PM
clarebear

It must go back in time in their family tree
11-30-2005, 08:08 PM
Vette

Heres a better picture

http://www.webpage-world.com/franelletoys

never mind the crappy breeders though. just using the pictures as a color examples
11-30-2005, 08:30 PM
.sarah

Okay, I've researched a lot in this area so here I go ;)

Black Labs are the dominant gene in all of the Lab colors. They can carry every color. In order for a black Lab to have yellow puppies, they must carry the yellow gene. A black Lab who has puppies with another black Lab can result in a litter with all colors. Blacks are the only ones who can carry every single color, so in order for black puppies to be in a litter there must be a black parent.

Was there any chocolate puppies in the litter? If so, Sophie's mother is tri-factored, which means that she carries all three colors. And, in order for yellow puppies to result between these two, BOTH must carry yellow because chocolate can be dominant over yellow. But, if there were no chocolate puppies it is most likely that Sophie's mom doesn't carry chocolate, only black and yellow. Sophie's dad obviously carries chocolate and yellow (black is the only color that produces black puppies).

I can't remember if Sophie is a dudley or not. A dudley is like both of my Labbies (they're in my siggy :) ). Instead of a black nose and black skin around the mouth and eyes, they will have chocolate pigment. This will result in nearly every litter where there are both chocolate and yellow puppies in the litter. It is a fault, and the dog cannot be shown. My girls are still perfect in my eyes though :D Oh, and a lot of people will say that their dog used to have a black nose but has turned dudley. Your Lab cannot "turn" dudley, once a dudley, always a dudley. Born black, always black. BUT, most yellow Labs who are born with black pigment will have brown noses during the winter months or once they get older. They're skin will stay black, though.

These websites are really interesting if you're wanting to learn more.

Coat Color Inheritance in Labs -- This one is, in my opinion, the easiest to understand. If you scroll down some once you get on the page there are pictures and links to click on. The third one is the black X chocolate breeding, and it will give you all the color combinations that can happen in a breeding. The second to last one is a breeding that resulted in blacks and yellows, and the very last one resulted in all colors.
Coat Color Inheritance #2 - This is a page about a DNA test, however if you scroll down some it has a table. But, I do prefer the first link I provided over this one.
Coat Color Inheritance #3 - Another good one ... the first link is still my favorite though :)
Coat Color Inheritance #4 - A really good one. Explains it mostly in words rather than with pictures, so it is a little bit harder to understand.

If you have any more questions feel free to ask. We were originally planning on breeding Nova so I did a ton of research on the breed as a whole. She got spayed the other day, and I don't think I'll ever breed, but I still read up on these things. They're just interesting :)
11-30-2005, 08:31 PM
clarebear

Quote:

Originally Posted by .sarah

Okay, I've researched a lot in this area so here I go ;)

Black Labs are the dominant gene in all of the Lab colors. They can carry every color. In order for a black Lab to have yellow puppies, they must carry the yellow gene. A black Lab who has puppies with another black Lab can result in a litter with all colors. Blacks are the only ones who can carry every single color, so in order for black puppies to be in a litter there must be a black parent.

Was there any chocolate puppies in the litter? If so, Sophie's mother is tri-factored, which means that she carries all three colors. And, in order for yellow puppies to result between these two, BOTH must carry yellow because chocolate can be dominant over yellow. But, if there were no chocolate puppies it is most likely that Sophie's mom doesn't carry chocolate, only black and yellow. Sophie's dad obviously carries chocolate and yellow (black is the only color that produces black puppies).

I can't remember if Sophie is a dudley or not. A dudley is like both of my Labbies (they're in my siggy :) ). Instead of a black nose and black skin around the mouth and eyes, they will have chocolate pigment. This will result in nearly every litter where there are both chocolate and yellow puppies in the litter. It is a fault, and the dog cannot be shown. My girls are still perfect in my eyes though :D Oh, and a lot of people will say that their dog used to have a black nose but has turned dudley. Your Lab cannot "turn" dudley, once a dudley, always a dudley. Born black, always black. BUT, most yellow Labs who are born with black pigment will have brown noses during the winter months or once they get older. They're skin will stay black, though.

These websites are really interesting if you're wanting to learn more.

Coat Color Inheritance in Labs -- This one is, in my opinion, the easiest to understand. If you scroll down some once you get on the page there are pictures and links to click on. The third one is the black X chocolate breeding, and it will give you all the color combinations that can happen in a breeding. The second to last one is a breeding that resulted in blacks and yellows, and the very last one resulted in all colors.
Coat Color Inheritance #2 - This is a page about a DNA test, however if you scroll down some it has a table. But, I do prefer the first link I provided over this one.
Coat Color Inheritance #3 - Another good one ... the first link is still my favorite though :)
Coat Color Inheritance #4 - A really good one. Explains it mostly in words rather than with pictures, so it is a little bit harder to understand.

If you have any more questions feel free to ask. We were originally planning on breeding Nova so I did a ton of research on the breed as a whole. She got spayed the other day, and I don't think I'll ever breed, but I still read up on these things. They're just interesting :)

Thank you so so much for explaining it to me lol. I had a nice read with my tea.

I will show this to my mum as she is confused about it sometimes too lol

thanks for the time you put into that
11-30-2005, 08:32 PM
.sarah

You're welcome. It's interesting to me, so it was fun typing out :)
11-30-2005, 08:33 PM
clarebear

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Originally Posted by .sarah

You're welcome. It's interesting to me, so it was fun typing out :)

thanks I bet your hands are dead now? lol
11-30-2005, 08:34 PM
.sarah

LOL. No, I type a lot since I have school online and everything.
11-30-2005, 08:35 PM
clarebear

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Originally Posted by .sarah

LOL. No, I type a lot since I have school online and everything.

I just ADORE your siggy, esp the yellow Lab in a santas hat

LOL
11-30-2005, 08:37 PM
.sarah

Thanks :) I took it last night. As soon as I can I'm going to post all of the pictures that I took. Mandy was too sleepy to get in the pictures, but I got a lot of good ones of the Labs. Nova is the one in the Santa hat, the other is Luka.
11-30-2005, 08:38 PM
clarebear

Quote:

Originally Posted by .sarah

Thanks :) I took it last night. As soon as I can I'm going to post all of the pictures that I took. Mandy was too sleepy to get in the pictures, but I got a lot of good ones of the Labs. Nova is the one in the Santa hat, the other is Luka.

Luka looks sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo cute

is he single? lol :p

Edit I mean for Sophie, not for me
LOL
11-30-2005, 08:39 PM
.sarah

Awww sorry Luka is a girl. But thanks anyway hehe
11-30-2005, 08:42 PM
clarebear

Quote:

Originally Posted by .sarah

Awww sorry Luka is a girl. But thanks anyway hehe

LOL sorry she looks a bit like a guy but thats ok you cant tell whats the animals gender is.

I bet she will be sulking if she reads this, thank goodness dogs cant read lol