My new adoption, Eli, is almost SCARED of Hooch, because Hooch;( he isn't neautered, and Eli isn't spayed) well; he keeps humping her. I am getting Eli spayed, if she doesn't get pregnant first!
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My new adoption, Eli, is almost SCARED of Hooch, because Hooch;( he isn't neautered, and Eli isn't spayed) well; he keeps humping her. I am getting Eli spayed, if she doesn't get pregnant first!
Can you blame her? :mad: Get them both done ASAP!
No, I can't blame her at all, but I was told to keep Hooch un-neautered to breed him. But I will get Eli spayed later today, or tommorow.
Hope it goes well
May I ask, what are your reasons for breeding Hooch?
Can't you keep them in seperate rooms or something?
Wow, your vet can get you in super super fast.
Why are you going to breed Hooch?
Because Hooch is an awesome standard for the Dogue De Bordeaux and they are not a very popular breed. I got Eli spayed earlier today:) So we don't have to worry about it anymore. And while I was there, I decided to get Baby neautered. So they are both fixed now, and now I don't have to worry about Mixed breed pups.
Well done - how is Eli doing after surgery?
how do you know hooch is an awesome example of a DDB?
how many shows has won? what titles does he have?
what health tests has he had done?
to be an awesome example of his breed he would have to have won shows and at least be a Champion, preferably a Grand Champion, he'd also have to have all the health tests done like OFA hips and elbows, cerf, thyroid, etc. to make sure he is 100% healthy and isnt passing on any genetic health problems
DDB arent exactly a rare dog anymore, heck a lady down the street in my small podunk town even had one, before she got rid of it :mad: BYB's AND Puppymill's already have ahold of these dogs and they are already in rescues and shelters.
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Your vet did get them done really really fast :eek:
So when do we get to see pictures of ALL of you dogs??? :)
you just had to turn up and they just do it?Quote:
Originally Posted by k9krazee
was Eli in season? might she have been pregnant like you said?
it just depends on where you live.
i know that each time one of my dogs got fixed, i called and they had me in the next day
AllAmericanPup, that was an awesome post! :) I REALLY hope the OP got the idea. Just because a dog is rare, does not mean that it should be bred without being exhibited in shows and activities, health/temperament tested, and evaluated by a professional. Actually, because a breed is rare that makes it MORE important to get your breeding dogs tested and titled, because not doing so will have a majorly BAD effect on the entire breed, having a small gene pool. Please get Hooch evaluated by a vet, Dogue's could easily be dysplasic and have other health problems do to their size and flat faces. Also, consider at least getting him evaluated by a professional Dogue breeder/exhibitor and/or by a show judge BEFORE even thinking of breeding him. You should breed him only to impove his breed, and although he might be a handsome dog he could also be poor health/show quality.
Also, there is a Dogue in my county shelter right now and I've seen several there at a time... along with Dogue mixes. They're steadily becoming popular to cross-breed with fighting dogs :( there was also several ads in my newspaper, almost definitely placed by crappy BYB's, advertising Dogues.
they rescued those dogs, the shelter might have had them already sceduled,
thanks allamericanpup for those great post!!!
Exactly. That dosen't make sense, I don't think I've ever ever seen a shelter that dosen't spay the dog before you bring it home. Especially, with filling out an adoption application, they would know you have an unneutered male at home....Quote:
Originally Posted by Flatcoatluver
the shelter here does not spay/neuter :(
they give you a $15 off coupon for spay/neuter but then it's up to you to get it done :rolleyes: they dont even check up on the dogs to make sure they were fixed :mad:
omg!!! That shelter is terrible!!! so that means then you don't really even neuter and spay!!!! you can just breed and start that painful cycle all over again!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by AllAmericanPUP
Something is fishy about this whole story :confused:
I don't think you should breed. You have absolutely NO reason to breed Hooch.
Every shelter is different, sadly, on their spay/neuter policy. Lots around this area make you sign an agreement to get it done, but how are they supposed to know whether or not you do? It is up to each person individually to take the responsibility.
Eli's doing awesome after surgery, it has been a HECK OF A TIME trying to keep her out of the water, sahe almost got in! And I am having to keep her inside and put her on a leash when I take her outside until her scar heals. And they vet took from 9:30 am to 4:30 pm to spay her. And no, she wasn't pregnant, because she wasn't in season.
I know Hooch is an awesome example of the DDB because of his great standard for the breed, if you check the standard, you'll see.
He has had ALL the tests for the DDB when he was a pup, and he gets the tests *just in case* every 2 years.
He hasn't won any shows, but he has a great standard
You'll see the pictures of the dogs as soon as I download them.
Reading the standards online and comparing is hardly good enough. What are you thinking :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by bark_some
do you show hooch?
and what exact tests are those? what are his OFA or pennhip scores? cerf? thyroid? patellas?Quote:
Originally Posted by bark_some
I don't see how you could judge him without ever showing Dogues, by simply looking at a VERY general on-line breed standard. Any purebred dog SHOULD fall within the standard... my little rescue BC falls into his standard, and he's FAR from being breedable. He's adorable but sadly he could not win any shows, ever.
The fact is that not just dogs who fit into their standard should be bred, the absolute BEST dogs who are PICTURE PERFECT examples of their breed should be bred, and only those dogs. That is the whole reason there ARE shows. If the only guidelines for breeding were "must conform to standard somewhat." then why even show dogs?? The entire reason for conformation showing is to prove breedability and soundness of the dog... your dog might look like a great example to you, but to a judge that's been judging Dogue's for decades he might be way off of breedable. That is why, even in a gorgeous purebred litter like Kara's, there are mostly "pet quality" puppies and usually at most one or two "show/breeding quality" puppies. Just being a purebred does NOT make him worthy of passing on his genes, as adorable as he is. Please do look into showing, don't just judge him on your own, and consider only studding him out to tested, show quality, sound females with experienced owners.
I used to love this board:( But now I find it hard to understand people:( If you guys are just going to go on and on about what you THINK but isn't the truth, go on ahead. I don't care. See yah later PT.
Actually, you know what, there are some people I like on this board and that are actually nice to me and understand me like Husky_mom and .sarah , but the people here, nah. I'm gonna stay, but I'm warning some people, whatever mean thing you say - I'm ignoring it. I don't have time to sort this out. Believe the truth or not.
I don't think anyone is being mean. We're just encouraging you to re-consider breeding your dog... because most of us are involved with rescue (and have rescue pups!), we've seen many dogs needlessly being put to sleep, and most of us very much believe that breeding should only be done the RIGHT way. What you told us is that your dog's breed is rare, and you think he looks good for a Dogue, so that makes him breedable. And many of us disagree with that. Please do lots of research, lots and lots and lots, before you make a decision. Bringing 5+ lives into this world is not something to be taken lightly.
:) meh. Sorry if you ignore me. I'm trying to help... I don't come on here and post about how you can prove your dog's breedability for my own health.
Ok
Oh hey, guess what, you were busted out on the other thread and those aren't your "girlfriend's" dogs, they belong to people in two different states and you are full of it so get lost=) Hooch probably isn't really your dog either and you don't know the first thing about breeding testing because as you claim they were done on him as a puppy, they can't be because hips etc can't be correctly done until around 18-24 months. You've been caught being a liar so why keep pretending, you are busted. Buh bye. :)
hi im michelle and i have a bordeaux called savanna ive just mated her 4wks ago and took her for a ultrasound scan today but sadlythe vet said we have no pups :( to bring her back in 10 days for another scan because the pups may be up in the ribcage :confused: i was just wondering if you might have any advice im a bit sad was so wanting little baby bordeauxs hope you can though any advice my way thanks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bark_some
"It's summertime, and the trolls are so sleazy....." :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by lbaker
Oh, I love that song. :D :D
This thread is over 8 months old. The person who started this was a troll, so I wouldn't take any single amount of advice from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by michellej
Now I feel silly :o I never even noticed the thread start date :rolleyes: