Hmm,,,,,,,,, any thoughts before the verdict is read and comments after???
Frankly,, I think he did it,,, and sadly,, I dont think he realizes it was wrong!!!! but thats just my opinion.... he is a sad sad case!!!
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Hmm,,,,,,,,, any thoughts before the verdict is read and comments after???
Frankly,, I think he did it,,, and sadly,, I dont think he realizes it was wrong!!!! but thats just my opinion.... he is a sad sad case!!!
I can't tell you how many times I have learned of breaking news on Pet Talk! :p I just put on the TV. I too feel that he is guilty. The two boys (present and past) have presented very similar evidence and have never discussed it between themselves. Well I hope justice is served. OJ walked, Robert Blake walked and now........
1 more minute!! I have MSN news up so I can see it....
Aww....MSN lied...its to be read at 1:45 p.m.
Doh!! ;)
what was the verdict?!
Still waiting...anyone else know??
Yahoo and MSN don't have audio for some reason...or maybe its my work computer??
I think he's guilty of some freaky things. I just don't know what the verdict will be. I could see it going either way.
I think he's guilty as sin. But, money talks and I think he'll get off just like O.J.
This is totally disgusting me. I knew he would be found not guilty. Idiot psycho won't have to do anything for his actions. I am totally pissed!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
Not guilty on all counts so far...we're on 8 out of 11
Nice.... :rolleyes:
Well, I'm different. I don't think he did it. I know all opinions are different though.
I think he's a very sad case, and probably quilty - but I don't think he's an evil person, just very confused. The verdict is being read now - he's been found not quilty on all charges.
What a farce!! :rolleyes:
Not guilty. Hmmm..... Add another celebrity who got off.
I think Michael Jackson is just a big kid at heart. I don't think he would hurt or do wrong to any child. I am happy to hear that he got not guilty.
I just hope he'll keep the children out of his bedroom now. Even after his last trial, he continued to let them sleep with him and openly admitted it. I also hope he'll get some help for his problems.
All I know is that he would be a VERY INTERESTING case study, psychologically. I don't think his intent is malicious...just not right.
I'm glad he was found not guilty. I think it was all for money.
I agree. I'm even more glad it's over and I don't have to hear about it anymore. :DQuote:
Originally posted by anna_66
I'm glad he was found not guilty. I think it was all for money.
hum, I don't know.. I don't like talking about other people..
I'm glad for you or you.. :p
PJ, don't be surprised if we get........
Michael Jackson, the unauthorized bio
followed by
Michael jackson, the civil lawsuit......
etc, etc...
this one will never end.
The press makes too much money off cases like this, they won't let it die.
I agree. It'll go on and on. I'm already sick to death of hearing about him, anyway. He's a nutcase. He'll probably make a book himself just so he can get more money.
I agree, and the next stupid parent that allows their son to sleep in the same bed with him should have their head examined. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Lady's Human
PJ, don't be surprised if we get........
Michael Jackson, the unauthorized bio
followed by
Michael jackson, the civil lawsuit......
etc, etc...
this one will never end.
The press makes too much money off cases like this, they won't let it die.
Both sides had very questionable track records and neither side had credible evidence. If I was the mother of the boy in the 1993 incident, I would have tried to have MJ locked under the jail for molesting my child, not except a settlement. If I was the mother of the child in this current incident, I wouldn't have allowed my child to share a bed with MJ. I just hope the right decision was made.
A little while ago, before the verdict was announced, I said on another site that I hoped he would be found not guilty. I agree that he is guilty of some poor decision making, but I never thought he was guilty as he was charged. I think it was about "who" he was and the money and notoriety that could be achieved by "beating" him.
I don't think this is anything like the OJ Simpson trial. Even those "know it all" analysts said that OJ truly had a jury of his peers. Michael Jackson did not.
I'm just glad it is OVER!!!!!! :p
Not guilty on all counts! :( *sigh* That AGAIN just goes to prove, MONEY TALKS.
I thought they'd AT LEAST find him guilty of giving alcohol to minors. :mad:
I am glad its over I was tired of hearing about it. But I think hes guilty of some kind of funny business how else could the boy discribe in detail MJ's Male member with the inperfections(gee just like another high profile degenerate) . Sorry I really disagree with most of you. But thats ok as we are intitled to our opinions.
I know I'm a bit inbreiated, though I cannot help but be exhasparated. I'm sorry to hijack this thread, but...
I just finished watching the movie "The End Of Suburbia" and we have MUCH BIGGER ISSUES than Michael Jackson here.
We're talking about the END OF SUBURBIA as we KNOW it. All of these minor issues, like MJ and anything based in Hollywood is JUST A FRONT to hide the serious issues!
We're in a major oil crisis, and when we start going over the threshold of oil peak consumption, we're all totally screwed. I'm sorry if my language offends anyone, but we are TOTALLY SCREWED. We are talking the end of suburbia, the end of civilization as we know it. SOMETHING needs to be done. On a GRAND scale. People need to realize that we are RUNNING OUT of our natural resources.
We can't live like we have been living anymore. Something's got to give.
I don't know about you, but I'm scared to hell and back, and no amount of fogging up the truth with trivial issues should hide the facts from the general populus
I am truly on the fence with this one. I do believe he was guilty of giving alchohol to the minors. However, the definition of the crime the jury was stuck with may not have applied. The molestation charges I did have my doubts on and I will explain why.
Micheal had a stunted growth. He's never quite matured and never had to. So he is almost delusional on what his real age is. He knows the laws that applies to his age but not the behavior. I don't believe that he may have molested the kids more than actually wanting to be more like them. That may be what the jury saw as well. His trying to be like his "friends" and be accepted. Kind of like a Hell's Angel motorcycle groupie who doesn't own a motorcycle. He's got a moped instead.
What I would like to see is him finally recieve the psychological help he soooooo desparately needs. It is so obvious he needs it. His recent health attacks proves it as they may have been pyschosematic.
If Micheal Jackson would get help from an outside source not directly connected to his "camp". Then I could see me and his other former-fans returning.
Let us also remember that if this molestation charges were true but just not found guilty in the court system... then the people cheering for Jackson were extremely cruel to the family. The boy being as brave as he was to stand up and go through the system just got slapped in the face. This may hurt anymore children being brave to venture getting help. We may have just pushed the secret crime of molestation back farther in the closet.:(
Wow . . . that is TOTALLY off the wall . . .Quote:
Originally posted by ILoveReptiles
I know I'm a bit inbreiated, though I cannot help but be exhasparated. I'm sorry to hijack this thread, but...
I just finished watching the movie "The End Of Suburbia" and we have MUCH BIGGER ISSUES than Michael Jackson here.
We're talking about the END OF SUBURBIA as we KNOW it. All of these minor issues, like MJ and anything based in Hollywood is JUST A FRONT to hide the serious issues!
We're in a major oil crisis, and when we start going over the threshold of oil peak consumption, we're all totally screwed. I'm sorry if my language offends anyone, but we are TOTALLY SCREWED. We are talking the end of suburbia, the end of civilization as we know it. SOMETHING needs to be done. On a GRAND scale. People need to realize that we are RUNNING OUT of our natural resources.
We can't live like we have been living anymore. Something's got to give.
I don't know about you, but I'm scared to hell and back, and no amount of fogging up the truth with trivial issues should hide the facts from the general populus
Don't think you're "hijack" is going to work on this one . . . :eek:
Now, back to MJ . . . I'm not surprised at all that he was found not guilty . . . another freak released into society. I just hope that these stupid parents take notice and maybe stop with the sleep overs. Of course by the looks of his "fans" today at the courthouse, he's still loved & IDOLIZED by many! Ugh . . . makes me wanna gag!
I was in school when this came on. We turned on the TV in class, and every time they said "no guilty" you could hear the entire school start screaming and booing lol.
I have always been on the fence with this one myself, I have had too much doubt in my mind as to whether michael is guilty, I personally could not convict him either, obviously the Jury felt the same way.
It does not necessarily come down to having money and being a celebrity, although it appears that way, had he been found guilty there would have been those who said he did not have a fair trial because of who he is, and the same can be said here, he got off because of who he is, I just donot believe that myself.
There is too much conflicting evidence to convict the man, I am glad he has been proven innocent, even though in some people's mind he will always be guilty, like logan said so well, he is guilty of making some poor decisions and judgement.
Of course I would have to agree michael is eccentric, weird, whatever label you wish to put on him, and in his eyes he sees nothing wrong with what he has been doing.
I do hope Michael learns a big lesson from this trial and stops putting himself in vulnerable situations, so this never happens again.
I guess the only ones who really know the truth are Michael and the boys he was accused of molesting.
I am not a MJ fan or devotee, although I loved his music when I was younger and still enjoy some of it, I just believe he is a very confused young man with some rather weird and silly ideas.
Oh Christa, you crack me up!! Of course I also share your "reflex" (GAG reflex that is!!).Quote:
Of course by the looks of his "fans" today at the courthouse, he's still loved & IDOLIZED by many! Ugh . . . makes me wanna gag!
It's been decided and it's time to move on. I only hope that MJ will be watched VERY closely when he is around young boys. He may have been a tough nut to crack, but he's still a nutjob nonetheless!!!
One more thing...I know if it were me on trial and I was innocent of the charges, I'd want to get up on the stand and tell MY side of the story.
Hmmmmm...makes ya wonder, doesn't it??
I got my pipe out and am ready to "smoke this" with anyone that wants to...
Not commenting of the guilt or innocence of either party.....just on the outcome of the trials....
Scotty Peterson is found guilty on circumstance----
MJ gets off and there is some pretty damning evidence and witnesses...
What's up with that????
:confused:
Money and fame.
Did you see him when he walked into the courthouse? He looked like he was on death's doorstep! I really think that he was expecting a guilty verdict! Seemed that way . . . they definitely didn't look confident going in today! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by moosmom
One more thing...I know if it were me on trial and I was innocent of the charges, I'd want to get up on the stand and tell MY side of the story.
Hmmmmm...makes ya wonder, doesn't it??
Ah well . . .
(sigh)...Quote:
Originally posted by christa
Wow . . . that is TOTALLY off the wall . . .
Don't think you're "hijack" is going to work on this one . . . :eek:
Now, back to MJ . . . I'm not surprised at all that he was found not guilty . . . another freak released into society. I just hope that these stupid parents take notice and maybe stop with the sleep overs. Of course by the looks of his "fans" today at the courthouse, he's still loved & IDOLIZED by many! Ugh . . . makes me wanna gag!
I guess people aren't ready to accept the truth... which is even worse.
Right back to MJ. Whatever.
(shrugs)
Hey, I didn't mean to cut you down . . . If you want to *seriously* talk about the "oil crisis" maybe you should start a new thread.Quote:
Originally posted by ILoveReptiles
(sigh)...
I guess people aren't ready to accept the truth... which is even worse.
Right back to MJ. Whatever.
(shrugs)
I've never thought he was a molester, I've just always thought he was different. Eccentric. Whatever you want to call it. But, again, just like with all of those other trials (OJ, Scott petersen, etc), I don't watch/listen/read to or about them. There's no way for me to know the truth, and, it would just be more drama for me to worry about it. My gut feeling is that he didn't molest any kids, but, I'm not judging him either way, because I don't know. I love his music, that's all I can say for sure.
Glad he was found not guilty. I never believed this child or his family, they didn't sound credible at all to me. I hope Michael can get on with his life now.
Good idea. I'll start one asap. But for now I'm going to bed.Quote:
Originally posted by christa
Hey, I didn't mean to cut you down . . . If you want to *seriously* talk about the "oil crisis" maybe you should start a new thread.
It's a crying shame that the wack jacko circus is deemed most newsworthy. I can understand to a certain extent the coverage in the states, but downunder my brother-in-law was going to go on morning TV, to tell people about a couple who are about to be deported, and are forced to leave their kids behind. They are being deported because our right wing government has deemed that they are in no danger from the Chinese government for being pro-democracy leaders in Hong Kong. Instead of us examining the humanitarian issues, and the concentration camps that the Australian Government keeps people in, we where bored stupid by the MJ circus for nearly two hours.
I'm with ILoveReptiles with this in that the tabloid press have way too much coverage on issues that on the whole could be covered a lot better and concisely than repeating two hours of drivel. Everything could have been reported within a half-hour, and the media could have got on to other important issues.
Is he guilty? A court has deemed him not to be so.