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Personally, I'm not a fan of PETA. They've did some things in the past I am suspect about...however, I would be wary over believing that site. It offered no notes as to where it got its information or quotes from. Even though the quotes were cited by name, it didn't mention if the author had talked to the person or if he had gotten them from other sources. He can't back up his claim with legitimate facts. Perhaps they are killing animals and if they are, that's horrible, but I wouldn't take his word for it alone. If he can't tell me where he got his facts so I can check his sources, I have to doubt him.
What a load of baloney!
Being a PETA member myself I do know that this is not hidden information from anybody. When you are concerned about a group, positively or negatively, you learn about them. I am a member because I agree with some of the causes, however every group has its downfalls, look at the SPCA. I think that it is immature for PETA to post billboards and signs everywhere just as it is for this sign to go up. People who autamatically trusted this group to take care of their abandoned pets should have done their research, as with the case of euthanized pets going for disection. I have to defend them in some way. No, I don't agree with the ethics of them euthanizing all of these animals (the aspca also euthanizes this percentage of animals), but look at all the good they have done. They created better living conditions for animals in circuses because they made people aware, they got KFC (and other chains) to (well maybe kfc told the truth) have better conditions for their animals, the exposed Iams and other companies that hid what they were doing. I still support the March of Dimes, although they are killing animals and doing inhumane research, because they do good things for children. Anyway, I think it may be surprising to you guys since you expected more from this group, but they are no better or worse than every other group out there.
I am not a fan,of PETa,telling Children,that thier Prents are Murderers,if they wera fur.And from what I have read,PETA,does not beleive,in people having Pets.There are a lot,of things,that they do,that is good,but,the fact,that they euthanize,Animals,is from documents,that they filed themselves,with the Federal,and State Governments.
Not another PETA thread. -_-
This smear campaign was started by a Non Profit Group, NOT, This campaign has some heavy Lobbyist backing.
Well did ya'll know that the Center for Consumer Freedom is a front group for the restaurant, alcohol and tobacco industries? It runs media campaigns which oppose the efforts of scientists, doctors, health advocates, environmentalists and groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving, calling them "the Nanny Culture -- the growing fraternity of food cops, health care enforcers, anti-meat activists, and meddling bureaucrats who 'know what's best for you.'? They used to formerly be called the Guest Choice Network? This outfit is headed up by Richard Berman, who advocates for Corporate America, huge Pharmaceutical companies and Tobacco Lords.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...nsumer_Freedom
http://www.consumerdeception.com/
http://www.cspinet.org/new/200302201.html
http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?...articleId=8984
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion...ame-edit_x.htm
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?sec......&id=4140447
Shelters all over the United States put down 13 million animals a year. Peta has a solid background in how they feel the Feral cat population should be handled. It is not all warm and fuzzy, however, neither is the life of most feral cats.
http://www.peta.org/campaigns/ar-feralcats.asp
The Center for Consumer Freedom Is not a friend of animals. They hide behind a non profit organization with the backing of rich and powerful lobbyists. They are fighting for Corporate America. They are behind animal research, exploitation, drugs, alcohol, and marketing campaigns that target children.
Boy this was dredged up from a year and half ago, buries it again.
This may have been dredged up from a year and a half ago. But the Lobyists are starting a whole new smear campaign as the court date once again approaches. I think it is prudent for people to be informed as to just who is the orgainisation behind the Non Profit Organisation.
They actually tell children that? :eek: I do not agree with fur, but I do not think it is right to tell children that their parents are murderers if they wear it.Quote:
Originally Posted by catmandu
Yes. They do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Husky15
I used to live in Oregon. They ran a news story on something that was happening at schools just a few hours away from us (in WA state). They were dressing up as animals and handing out pens shaped like syringes full of blood to students. It caused quite the uproar.
Wow. To me that is going just a little too far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wenisrubber
This all sounds to weird to me, don't you think maybe people against petta could be dressing up as them and doing all this? maybe they pretened to be petta members then did all those stupid things to get petta in trouble.
I mean so many celebrities donate to petta .. I'm sure they would not if they knew excacly how and why petta was doing this. Yes petta can go overboard but I think this is all realy weird to me, don't they want to help animals not hurt them. :confused:
I think mostly everyone is getting tired of PETA. lol One time that kid who was in Home Alone (can't spell his name) tried to release a tank full of LOBSTERS!!! He wanted them to be "free". As if they really could survive on the streets of L.A.?!!? PETA is beginning to become a little crazy with stuff like that. No offense of course.
PETA was dressed up like animals and handing children syringes filled with blood? I would like to see one reliable independant news report about this. One link that is not put out by Rick Berman and his lobbyist front group. This sort of incident would have resulted in a genuine media frenzy not to metion FELONY charges of child endangerment.
Any organization that wants to eliminate pet ownership is worthless in my book.
They did confront my 13 year old daughter while she was taking some classes at a local college. They handed her graphic pictures of animals being tortured, luckily a college age girl rushed up and told her not to open it up, her friend was not as fortunate and she ended up throwing up.
...that's just awful. In fact, it's sick of them to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by caseysmom
I really don't have a problem with graphic pictures being handed around. Sorry, but I believe you should know the facts of everything you take part in, including the partaking of meat and anything tested on animals. You can't pretend it doesn't happen. Its like my roommate turning the channel during things like katrina, turning the channel doesn't make it untrue and doesn't get those lives back.
I too think it is important that people are aware of the needless suffering that is sometimes part and parcel of daily living. I remember many years ago going to a Seafood restaurant on the wharf. Prior to this date I had always consumed lobster that had been prepared and looked "clinically" pleasing. It wasn't until the waiter asked me to choose the lobster I wanted from the tank and I observed the cook dumping one live into the pot that I became very aware of how my lobster dish came to be. I decided on a veggie platter instead.
I have no problem with meat eaters, however, they should be aware that many animals live a life of misery in crowded factory farms and are then shipped off to be slaughtered. Unlike organic farming where the animals are free range, and not subjected to crowded barns and sleeping and eating in their own filth while being injected full of growth hormones and antibiotics to offset the unhealthy living conditions.
Also I think it is important for people to know when they purchase those cheap fur trimmed garments in stores like Wal-Mart that many of these garments are shipped from china and made from dog and cat fur. Animals are often skinned alive for the fur. If people want to purchase this type of item, they have the right to do so. But they should be aware of the suffering that is taking place to provide these cheap garments for vanity.
And it is organizations like PETA who have brought this information to light. And because of all the exposure they are a target for Lobbyist groups looking to protect large Corporation interest, and support the oil Barron's, beef barons, and tobacco industry, drug and alcohol industry, animal research labs, and retailers who pay minimum wage and purchase from third world countries that support child labor and keep the poor from reaching above the minimum standard.
I strongly dislike Peta..and mind you im im holding my tounge when saying that..i can easliy look past many things that they do and say..but one thing i can't get over is that they SUPPORT Breed specific legislation.sorry but that right there makes my blood boil.
You are right. They should know. I just do not think it is right to hand out such graphic pictures. There's better ways to educate people than show them such things.Quote:
Originally Posted by IRescue452
What? That makes my blood boil too! I mean it makes my blood boil when anybody supports BSL, but PETA? Aren't they supposed to be the ultimate animal lovers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danegirl2208
My daughter is not a meat eater, she decided on her own without seeing disturbing images that animals must die for that meat to end up on her plate.
Exactly. Unfortunately when I became a vegetarian I was not so lucky. My uncle owned a farm and, like lots of beef farms, he would kill them for meat. Well one day there when I was no older then nine, I walked outside, looked at the barn, and there was a cow, hanging there. It disturbed me to the point of tears and I could hardly talk all day; I was disturbed for the rest of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by caseysmom
its sad isnt it? heres some more info on it..Quote:
Originally Posted by Husky15
http://www.workingpitbull.com/truthaboutpeta.htm
http://www.nokillnow.com/PETAIngridNewkirkResign.htm
Sometimes PETA does go a bit too far, but I have to say, it is very importatnt to point out the cruelty. Some people don't find the fact that they're eating a dead creature bad untill they see the torture it was put through. I do support them trying to spead the truth, even if they do take it too far or if their information is only one side of the story. Truth is, you can't fake a video of that kind of stuff. It is real. And the fake blood pens, my dad brings those for me every time he goes to a medical confrience. And many doctors give them as gifts to kids if they behave for their shots. That's not anything bad in my opinion.
For fur I think they SHOULD show graphic photos of animals being tortured and slottered to death just for the sake of fasion, they should show every detail to what goes on in those horrible fur farms maybe then people will actualy see there's no joke when it comes to being skinned alive!
Wow ... I never knew PETA was like that. I always saw them as the ultimate animal lovers that will do anything to protect them - but after seeing those websites my mind is changed. It is truly sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danegirl2208
I agree. As well as meat and animal studies, but fur is what really makes me furious. I think that it would be a great organization if they were a little less....crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Argranade
I've noticed alot of old threads coming up from new members...and most of them are heated.Quote:
Originally Posted by IRescue452
PETA is stupid the end.
Short but sweet and straight to the point [meaning I agree].Quote:
Originally Posted by buttercup132
Did you even bother to read the post? I said they were handing out PENS shaped like syringes full of "blood" (red ink).Quote:
Originally Posted by iamgobsmacked
groups like peta are retarded, I read a t-shirt one time that said "save the world, kill YOURSELF! "
i think that peta is a borderline terrorist organization, how can good come from any organization that is against so many things?
they do support bsl , i read an article on a website that was trying to get pitbulls banned ( they succeeded) in our area, they quoted the president of peta as saying that "peta does support breed specific regulation, in fact they are against ownership of dogs in general" or something like that, lol.
needless to say i was baffled when i went to peta's site and learned what that stood for , then read all of the other odd things they are against.
edit: found it-
scroll down a bit
http://www.olathepsc.org/c/opsc/didyouknow.aspx
"People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) supports BSL and would like to see the American Pit Bull Terrier breed (as well as pet animals in general) die out."
http://www.stoppitbullattacks.com/
Did you even bother to read the post? I said they were handing out PENS shaped like syringes full of "blood" (red ink).
Yes, and as a matter of fact I reread it when another poster pointed that out. So I had misread it. But thank you for pointing that out AGAIN.
Would it be easier for us to just have one big PETA thread? Then we could just all voice our opinions and be done with it.
No problem. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by iamgobsmacked
I guess that PETA is like a lot of other organizations that have firmly held beliefs - be it Politics, Religion, or in this case Animal rights - theres always the fringe element that is out for the shock value. They believe that the shocking images and behaviours will bring people over to their side, when in fact for the average person, it turns them away from whatever the cause is.
So, for someone like my sister (who is a member of PETA and several other Animal Rights organizations, as well as Animal Rescue groups like 'Adopt-A-Dog-Save-A-Life, and doing Animal Sanctuary work) handing out flyers as a protest against fur is a far cry from the people handing out things aimed to traumatize children - but they are part of the same organization, just going about things in different ways.
I think one of the funniest calls I received recently was from a friend of mine, calling to say that he'd seen a picture of my sister in the Toronto Sun, topless in front of a furrier, holding up a sign covering herself saying 'I'd rather go topless than wear fur' -- it made us all snicker. (and yes, it is legal to go topless in Ontario) ;)
Maybe there should be a '' I hate Peta sticky''
Ooooo .. K! Would that solve everyone's madness of Peta?!
But then if Peta found out they would bomb this place with scary-ness!
I wish there was a "raise eyebrow" icon, because that's what I'm doing now... :p