Digging!! Post 14- question

Alright, this is not typical backyard digging. This is while mommy is laying on the floor let me come over and dig at her and her clothes to try and fluff them up. I am speaking of Chopper, my 4 month of chi. He is very well behaved all day long, listens pretty good(still working on the come thing :rolleyes: ) but all in all he is a typical puppy with exploring and stuff and when told NO he stops what he is doing and if not I remove him from the situation. But lately he just comes over to me and starts scratching and digging at me and my clothes(only at night when we are relaxing watching TV). I tell him NO and he completely ignores me. I have picked him up, made him face me and tell him No. He will stop for a few seconds and then do it again. After the first time being picked up he tries to quickly flip over and bite at my fingers when I go to get him the next time. I guess the only other thing I can start doing is getting up and walking away or sitting on the furniture(but that is my down time with all the dogs and I hate to punish the other two because the little monster can't behave). Does anyone know how to deter this behavior without having to pick him up and have him nipping at my fingers(I don't want him to think this is a game). I fear if I allow him to do it it will just get worse as he gets older and he may start digging at other things. Oh and I have tried placing his blanket down by me but he just gets under the blanket and continues digging at me. Thanks for any help you may offer.

I have no suggestions for you but will wait eagerly for the others to respond. Very interesting! My Ripley (mini poodle) not only goes around and around in circles six or seven times before settling down in bed with me each night, but he digs the sheet first. It is a routine with him and I just lay there and wait for his ritual to end before we both doze off. :rolleyes: Thankfully he doesn't feel the need to dig me. :)

See he will dig at his own bed too and push his blankets around with his nose but he only does it for a few seconds and lays down. The first time he did this to me I just let it go when he first started because I thought okay he will just dig for a couple of seconds and stop but he didn't stop and those little tiny puppy nails are very sharp! So I started telling him no. He is not as easily startled as most small dogs so a loud clap doesn't really bother him(tried that too). Maybe that is because he lives with two large barking dogs and he is desensitized to loud sound? I thought of using the pebbles in a can but I don't want to stress my other dogs out either. I surely hope someone has something I can try, I will try anything. The only other thing I can think of is to just get up and walk away, maybe he will quickly get the idea? Or put him in his kennel every time he does it?

He thinks you are his bed. He's trying to make his "nest" on you. Do you crate him? Does he do this at the same time every night? Then about half an hour before he does, make a little fun nightly ritual of putting him to bed in his crate. He'll make himself comfy in his own nest instead of digging on you.

Now, for the NO with you staring at him? B-A-D idea. I'm not going into dominance theory, because its too long of a discussion. Just mark my word, more trouble than good comes from dominance theory on puppies. Instead of NO, sternly tell him what is wrong. NO is too general. No bite! No dig! No bark! Tell him once. Don't ask him. Tell him.

Most of all.... get this guy into puppy class. You need some training yourself (we all do) and he needs socialization. I wish I had chis in my class. I NEVER have any. For some reason chi owners think their puppies don't need socialization, and within 9 months they have a little monster on their hands because the puppy knows the owner can be ignored... which sounds like he's already doing by ignoring your command NO which results in you doing the dominance stare while saying NO. They know if they are bad enough they'll get removed from the situation. instead of having to listen to you, they wait til you stop them because thats what they learn is status quo. They also need socialization because they think they are their parent's guardian... they need to learn how to fend for themselves in the big world without constantly being held and protecting you. I have yet to meet a chi in public that didn't fear me and give me a bite in response. I have siply learned to not say hello to a chi I don't know, and I am sad to admit that as I love to say hello to all dogs.

Hi, i think what catnapper suggested are very good ideas. Your little baby really needs to go to "school" and to get to know other pupils as well.
I would also suggest not to stare at him and say no, just put him away, say no digging, and give him a command he already knows. As soon as he follows it, praise him or give him a treat. This can take a while, so be prepared to do it again and again, give him time to understand what you want him to do. So as soon as he starts digging, put him away, say no digging, give him a command and praise him, that is my suggestion. And a very important point is to have him trained at a professional puppy class.
All the best for your little digger and you
Michael

Catnapper. Thanks. I am going to look into puppy classes(was trying to wait until school was back in because it makes it hard with all the kids home). I don't pick him up to stare him down, just to make him realize it is HIM I am talking too. I do see what you are saying though.

Yes as I mentioned he is crated(but only for bedtime in our bedroom). He has a bed on the floor in the same room that we watch TV in also which is about 3 feet from where I am laying with all the dogs. I figured that he is trying to "nest" me but he does not do this all day and he sits in my lap on and off as I work at home. When it comes to time I guess it varies but is usually about 30 minutes to 2 hours before bed(I guess depending on how hard he played earlier in the day how tired he is). I do say No Digging(not just no, sorry I was a little vague in my description).

He has been getting socialization(outside of being in a puppy class). I take him anywhere I am allowed. He is exposed to other people all the time holding him, playing with him, reaching to pet him while he is in my arms(I don't want him to think he has to protect me and that it is okay for someone to reach out and pet him) and he is also exposed to other dogs. He is exposed to kids daily, not only my own but their friends also.

The removal from the situation is what I read on another site about training. That is the problem, all advice is different and some of it conflicting. So sometimes you think you are doing what is right and you may be making the problem worse. I will be calling around this afternoon about classes to see if there are any available. I definately do not want to have what people think is "the typical chihuahua".

Thanks again.

petpsychologist. Thanks. I guess we were posting at the same time. I am going to get him in classes, I agree he needs them. I have never had experience with small dogs, always larger breeds and never experienced this "diggin" not on myself anyway :) I will definately try putting him away, telling him no digging, making him do the sit command or something and when he responds give him a treat.

Puppy classes would be a great idea!

I was thinking of this: maybe Chopper is just bored. When dogs are bored they will dig. How many walks a day do you give Chopper? Do you play with him during the day? If dogs don't play much and get short long that don't tire them out, they are most likely to start digging.

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Originally Posted by KittyGurl

Puppy classes would be a great idea!

I was thinking of this: maybe Chopper is just bored. When dogs are bored they will dig. How many walks a day do you give Chopper? Do you play with him during the day? If dogs don't play much and get short long that don't tire them out, they are most likely to start digging.

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Well unfortunately that is not the problem(I wish it was that simple :) ). I am at home. He is played with all day. I take several breaks while working, at least once an hour, take him outside unless he is sleeping of course, play with all the dogs(fetch or just running around chasing me) or just letting him explore the smells in the yard. Plus while he is awake after coming in I will play fetch with him inside by tossing all his little toys around. He also plays with Champ several times during the day, kind of wrestiling around(as much as a 2 pound dog can do with a 60 pounder). And prior to him doing his "digging" I am playing with him on the floor, either working with his sitting, laying, or just playing fetch or running around. He is very well exercised. As far as walking goes we mostly stay in the yard as the asphalt is just so hot here right now. We walk up and down the driveway or run through the grass. He loves to play chase with me and the other dogs.

edit: Also we are teaching him to swim so he can get exercise in the hot Florida sun and stay cool at the same time.

It seems as if you're doing everything "right" and seeking advice -- thats awesome!!!

Yes, there are conflicting opinions out there. Just like you can have a100 opinions on raising a human child, its the same with a puppy. What I tell me students is that not everything is going to work for you and your puppy. You know your temperment, what you can be consistent with, and you know your puppy's temperment. Take what you know about yourself and your puppy and tailor advice to fit. Try something a few times (as long as its not harmful in any way, obviously) if your puppy's not responding then thats not the right solution to the problem. In the end, patience, consistency, and timing will result with a dog you're proud of.

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It seems as if you're doing everything "right" and seeking advice -- thats awesome!!!

Yes, there are conflicting opinions out there. Just like you can have a100 opinions on raising a human child, its the same with a puppy. What I tell me students is that not everything is going to work for you and your puppy. You know your temperment, what you can be consistent with, and you know your puppy's temperment. Take what you know about yourself and your puppy and tailor advice to fit. Try something a few times (as long as its not harmful in any way, obviously) if your puppy's not responding then thats not the right solution to the problem. In the end, patience, consistency, and timing will result with a dog you're proud of.

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Thanks. I know it is frustrating when one says this will work and someone else say NO-NO don't do that. But I do not want a dog that walks all over me so I am willing to give it my all with whatever techniques are out there until I find one that fits us and works. I am definately commited to my pets and he is a free spirited little man, he has his moments of listening to absolutely every word and then other moments where I feel like aliens have invaded his body*sigh*. But I will keep plugging along til we are both on the same page. I will be getting into puppy classes, hopefully I can find someone local as we have no local pet stores that offer it so I will have to be a dog trainer. I will be callin around.

Sugar and Lacey both digg and have major construction going on in their beds to make their nest prior to settling down. Dad often asks if they got the permits for all this construction!

Last night, after the evenng walk, the backyard trips (2) which include chasing the ball, and all the oher routine stuff, I settled in bed to read. Lacey snuggled next to me and then started similar to what you described. I took her out in the back yard (AGAIN!) and she blitzed around in the heat for over FIVE MINUTES! :rolleyes: It was just pent up energy and excitement. She is 5 years of age, so not a puppy; but bichons are known for blitzing so I watch for it.

Just thought I'd pass this along.

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Sugar and Lacey both digg and have major construction going on in their beds to make their nest prior to settling down. Dad often asks if they got the permits for all this construction!

Last night, after the evenng walk, the backyard trips (2) which include chasing the ball, and all the oher routine stuff, I settled in bed to read. Lacey snuggled next to me and then started similar to what you described. I took her out in the back yard (AGAIN!) and she blitzed around in the heat for over FIVE MINUTES! :rolleyes: It was just pent up energy and excitement. She is 5 years of age, so not a puppy; but bichons are known for blitzing so I watch for it.

Just thought I'd pass this along.

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With Chopper being a puppy in these evening hours when this happens he is probably outside about 30 minutes(for potty breaks)for 10 minutes or so. He gets those bursts of energy too. Thanks.

Has anyone any suggestions on Petco's training classes. We just had one open up and this is pretty much my only option to get Chopper training unless it is one on one with a trainer and then he is not having the exposure to learning to listen around a lot of other people, pets and distractions. I was thinking about giving them a shot but wanted to see if I could get some feed back on them.

Oh and he has gotten better with the digging. I just told him No digging, made him sit and praised him and played fetch. Of course a short time later he tried it again but after being told no digging he stopped. He does still try every night but only once or twice and then I guess he realizes this is not an acceptable thing and stops. Of course I will continue to work with him on this :)

I think that chopper wants to bury you so he can play with you later. LOL!:)

My Daisy has always been a digger. She scratches me with her little claws to let me know she needs something. If she scratches my arm, she wants me to pick it up and move it so she can lie down there. If I'm walking, she'll sometimes scratch my foot to tell me to pick her up. She isn't real aggressive with it and if she starts getting too crazy, I quietly tell her no as I place my hand over the spot she was trying to dig into. It's the only way she knows how to communicate(I'm assuming)so I've never tried to stop her completely. I probably shouldn't have let it continue but I felt that was her way of "talking". There has never been any nipping with it and overall, she's pretty gentle with the way she does it. However, if I hadn't brought her down a few notches as a puppy, she would be drawing blood out of me now. It did take some training to get it where it is today. :)

I'm sorry but I had to smile when I read the first post. I thought it might be a Chihuahua trait ;) Best of luck. They're so darn cute and tiny, it's hard to discipline them isn't it? :D

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My Daisy has always been a digger. She scratches me with her little claws to let me know she needs something. If she scratches my arm, she wants me to pick it up and move it so she can lie down there. If I'm walking, she'll sometimes scratch my foot to tell me to pick her up. She isn't real aggressive with it and if she starts getting too crazy, I quietly tell her no as I place my hand over the spot she was trying to dig into. It's the only way she knows how to communicate(I'm assuming)so I've never tried to stop her completely. I probably shouldn't have let it continue but I felt that was her way of "talking". There has never been any nipping with it and overall, she's pretty gentle with the way she does it. However, if I hadn't brought her down a few notches as a puppy, she would be drawing blood out of me now. It did take some training to get it where it is today. :)

I'm sorry but I had to smile when I read the first post. I thought it might be a Chihuahua trait ;) Best of luck. They're so darn cute and tiny, it's hard to discipline them isn't it? :D

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Choppers daily communication is usually through his nose. If he wants held he touches me on the leg with his nose or if he just used his potty box all on his own he will come poke me get me to follow him and show me he went potty(all excited and wiggly I might add :D ). He is just so darn smart!! But the digging, for goodness sakes he just goes to town. I thought for sure he would draw blood if I let him continue.

And your right they are so tiny and cute that it is hard to discipline them--you just look at those big eyes(and ears LOL) and *sigh*. But I do not want him to grow up being a stinker either. Especially if he does this to guests. :eek:

Pass on some pats, pets and cuddles to the girls from all of us!!

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Choppers daily communication is usually through his nose. If he wants held he touches me on the leg with his nose or if he just used his potty box all on his own he will come poke me get me to follow him and show me he went potty(all excited and wiggly I might add :D ). He is just so darn smart!! But the digging, for goodness sakes he just goes to town. I thought for sure he would draw blood if I let him continue.

And your right they are so tiny and cute that it is hard to discipline them--you just look at those big eyes(and ears LOL) and *sigh*. But I do not want him to grow up being a stinker either. Especially if he does this to guests. :eek:

Pass on some pats, pets and cuddles to the girls from all of us!!

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I will pass them along right away. Some to your's too please!! :D

We mostly only have PetsMart's around here. What i have heard though is that it all depends on the individual's experience. They all go through the training the store provides of course, but some people have "it" and others don't.
(Also there was a huge boycott last year because PS banned certain breeds from their classes. I don't know if anything was ever done.)

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Has anyone any suggestions on Petco's training classes. We just had one open up and this is pretty much my only option to get Chopper training unless it is one on one with a trainer and then he is not having the exposure to learning to listen around a lot of other people, pets and distractions. I was thinking about giving them a shot but wanted to see if I could get some feed back on them.

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Oh that is so wonderful that you were able to make progress with Chopper! :D

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Oh and he has gotten better with the digging. I just told him No digging, made him sit and praised him and played fetch. Of course a short time later he tried it again but after being told no digging he stopped. He does still try every night but only once or twice and then I guess he realizes this is not an acceptable thing and stops. Of course I will continue to work with him on this

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We mostly only have PetsMart's around here. What i have heard though is that it all depends on the individual's experience. They all go through the training the store provides of course, but some people have "it" and others don't.
(Also there was a huge boycott last year because PS banned certain breeds from their classes. I don't know if anything was ever done.)


Oh that is so wonderful that you were able to make progress with Chopper! :D

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Maybe I will just give it a shot. I noticed there are a couple other places here but they are usually private sessions, I think I would rather do it as a group just for him to have the experience. Maybe if they stink really bad I could throw a fit and get my money back :D I am not to incapable of training a hardheaded breed, I have two stubborn boxers at home and they both listen very well but this is a whole different stubborn :rolleyes: so I would rather do it right than confuse poor Chooper. I think I will go in this weekend and speak with them.

Thanks :) . Last night there was no digging at me at all, of course our schedule was thrown off with Champ's abscess breaking open at 9 p.m.(under health thread). So tonight will be the real test.

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I will pass them along right away. Some to your's too please!! :D

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DONE!! ;)