When using tin foil does the shiny side go up or down? What's the difference between the shiny side and the dull side?
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When using tin foil does the shiny side go up or down? What's the difference between the shiny side and the dull side?
Durned if I know! :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by slick
But Mr. Google found out ...
http://www.alcoa.com/reynoldskitchen...89&cat_id=1337
Which side of Reynolds Wrap® Aluminum Foil should I use, the shiny or the dull side?
Actually, it makes no difference which side of the aluminum foil you use—both sides do the same fine job of cooking, freezing and storing food. The difference in appearance between dull and shiny is due to the foil manufacturing process. In the final rolling step, two layers of foil are passed through the rolling mill at the same time. The side coming in contact with the mill's highly polished steel rollers becomes shiny. The other side, not coming in contact with the heavy rollers, comes out with a dull or matte finish.
The exception is when using Reynolds Wrap® Release® Non-Stick Aluminum Foil. The non-stick coating is applied during manufacturing to the dull side of the foil. Always place the non-stick (dull) side toward the food.
Which is better for freezing, aluminum foil or plastic?
Aluminum foil has the lowest moisture-vapor transfer rate of all wrapping materials. This means that it is the most effective in preventing the loss of moisture and vapor from the food. This is the reason why foil is preferred over plastic wrap for long-term food storage or freezing.
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Good thing God invented the 'puter ...
or I'd never be able to boil water & cook Mac 'n Cheese!
:p
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What's the difference between the shiny side and the dull side?
One side is shiny, and the other is not.... :p
Can you safely microwave leftovers in styrofoam containers, or do you have to put them on a plate first?
http://petoftheday.com/i/our_smilies/eek.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by cmayer31
I guess I should be dead thanks to my nuke-it box! http://petoftheday.com/i/our_smilies/frown.gif
Found this (and several other sites singing the same song) >>>
"In general, some plastics are reported safe for use in microwave cooking. If you use plastics in the microwave, identify the plastic and look for an indication that the particular container is microwave-safe. Do not use plastics which you have not identified and Do not use plastics which are not identified as "microwave-safe".
If it doesn't clearly say "microwave-safe", it probably isn't...
NSF, which certifies food-safe items, states:
Page Citation >>>
- Only use cookware that is specially manufactured for use in the microwave oven. Glass, ceramic containers, and all plastics should be labeled for microwave oven use.
- Never use plastic storage containers such as margarine tubs, take-out containers, whipped topping bowls, and other one-time use containers for cooking or reheating food in your microwave. These containers are not heat resistant and can melt, possibly leaching harmful chemicals into your food."
- This page copyright 2006, Stan Protigal
- http://petoftheday.com/i/our_smilies/eek.gif
- I've been nukin margarine tubs for YEARS!
http://www.scn.org/~bk269/plastics.html
http://www.scn.org/~bk269/resin-logo_06.gifType 6 - Polystyrene, styrene, polystyrene foamNot heat stable. Do not use in microwave. Do not microwave food in a styrofoam container! In addition to not being heat stable, polystyrene is a potential human carcinogen and usually contains bisphenol A.
Thanks Fire Marshall Phred!!! ;)
After having a styrofoam container MELT in my microwave, I never put it in again. Bad enough the food was ruined; so was the microwave almost! What a messy clean up. Ugh. Never again.
If I do wrap food in foil, I always have the dull side inside, but I normally use "smoerrebroeds paper" for my lunch. ;)
I can do without a microwave, but I'd like a grill in my oven!
wow i never noticed tin foil had two sides hahah.. :)
This is a huge part of what my job is!! Not for food containers, but for medical devices. We are constantently evaluting tubing, and stoppers, and containers, etc. to make sure the amount of plastic additives is minimal even when exposed to high temperatures, or aggressive chemicals. I would personally recommend avoiding plastic in the microwave when you can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinder & Smoke
On a side note, based on toxicology data, a 150lb (70kg) person would have to consume 300-700 grams ( 1 to 1.5 lbs) of Bisphenol A before you have serious issues. Microwaving a few times, isn't going to hurt you!!!
If I'm heating leftovers at work for lunch, I always nuke them in a plastic container and even eat out of the plastic container. Nuked foods at home go on a plate first. Hmmmmm, come to think of it, maybe that's where I got my cancer from??? :confused:
One more question about recycling....
I'm looking for a website that lists the numbers and what falls under that category. For example:
#1-glass
#2-XXXXXX
etc.
Milk cartons....what number are they??? :confused:
:eek: NOW she tells me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cincy'sMom
:rolleyes:
I wouldn't recognise a TruckLoad of "Bisphenol A" if it was dumped on my kitchen floor!Quote:
... a person would have to consume 300-700 grams ( 1 to 1.5 lbs) of Bisphenol A
before you have serious issues ...
Life is getting Soooo complicated!
;)
Phew! For a minute there I thought I was going to have to add "death by microwaved containers" to my list of things I worry about! Now I'll move it to my list of things I don't neccessarily have to worry about but do anyway!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cincy'sMom
Yeah, It seems now days, there's something out there that's going to get Ya!!!!
LOOK OUT!!!! :eek:
( Life isn't as simple as it used to be :D )
" Quote from The Graduate" starring Dustin Hoffman~ :D
The future is in "PLASTICS" :cool:
Only plastics get numbers - I think of milk CARTONs as the paper ones. But every plastic container should be marked with a little number.
:) Oh now this makes me feel all good.. So for Lunch when I take my burrito out of the foil to put in a plastic container for the Microwave is a NoNo :p :D
For real the shinny side of foil is to go on the pan side & the dull side is next to the food.. Reason is the shinny side reflects the heat of the oven or grill the best.. Well thats my story & I am sticking to it.. :o
Not so sure that's "scientifically correct"!Quote:
Originally Posted by lvpets2002
"Heat" is thermal energy that is conducted or passes through the foil -
the heat energy isn't impressed much with the shiny vrs. dull side.
And you wouldn't want to "reflect" your heat away from the food; you want it
to "pass through" the foil to the food.
Now if you're cooking with SUN light - you don't want to "reflect" it away ...
so you'd want the dull side out. (And a thick book to read while waiting!)
As the Alcoa folks said - doesn't much matter WHICH way you wrap with foil.
;)
There are plastics that have less additives then others, and these are marked as microwave safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by lvpets2002
:) I can tell your a fireman.. ;) All I know is that I dont want my food to be running away before I can eat it.. :p tomato tomoto = potato patoto :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Cinder & Smoke
Things that come on a roll ... toilet tissue, paper towels ... What direction is it supposed to unroll? Do I install the new roll with the end facing the wall (so it unrolls from underneath the roller), or facing the room (so it unrolls over the top)?
and here I always put the shiny side up because it looks prettier lol
I do that, too. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by cali
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by cassiesmom
As a Kitten, Boots, da Kat, much preferred the Over the Top / Facing Out mounting ...
Soooo much easier to spool off an ENTIRE roll onto the floor that way!
:eek:
:mad:
LOL! Agreed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinder & Smoke
Too funny! Doogie only did that one time, thank goodness. And it was in shreds, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinder & Smoke
Styrofoam does not contain bisphenol A. This is the monomer used in polycarbonate, aka "Lexan". BPA can leach out of Lexan, and that is of some concern.
Lemon will "melt" (dissolve) styrofoam!
Here endeth today's chemistry lesson. :p ;)
Does a home fire extinguisher ever lose its effectiveness? I received a fire extinguisher 10 years ago as a housewarming gift. I thought that was a great idea and placed it in the kitchen closet. I just replaced my smoke detector because there is a new law in my town that requires carbon monoxide detectors in each residence. So, I bought a combination smoke and CO unit. Solved two problems at once, I wasn't sure how long ago the previous owner put up that smoke detector - and, I needed a CO detector anyway. But there's still a fire extinguisher in my closet that's not getting any newer. I can't find any sort of expiration date on the package.
Ahh, fire extinguisher....I know a little bit about that, as I asked Phred the same question a few years ago. ;)
The one you have weighs so much when it's new, and after all these years, it's supposed to weigh the same to be effective, more or less.
I'm sure Phred will explain this much better and in detail though.
I've had mine for at last 15 years, and I doubt I could lift it up very high if it was neccesary.
Stay safe! :)
I always thought that the shiny side was so because it kept in heat radiation, but then again, I was never any good at physics! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by slick
They do need to be "inspected".Quote:
Originally Posted by cassiesmom
Consider a typical home or vehicle 2 1/2 or 2 3/4 pound Dry Chemical extinguisher
that carries an "ABC" or "Flammable Liquids" label and has a small GAUGE >>>
These need to be "inspected" frequently to be sure the gauge indicates "FULL" and
that there's nothing blocking the discharge nozzle.
Then pick the extinguisher UP and *SHAKE* it - to unpack the dry chemical and
insure that it will flow out the nozzle when needed.
You can do these "inspections" yourself ... for 12 YEARS.
After the 12th Year of the extinguisher's "life" - it gets a lil "dicey"!
The US Dept of Transportation rules state that all stored pressure Dry Chemical
extinguishers MUST be "Hydrostatically Tested" by a certified tester Every 12 Years.
ALL Extinguishers are "dated" with the month/year they were assembled.
THAT date starts the 12 year clock - not when you purchased it.
For small home sized extinguishers, it's a LOT cheaper to go to WalMart, Sears, or your
favorite Hardware store and buy a barnd NEW one than pay a fire extinguisher service center
to empty, hydro test, dry, and refill your old one!
What to DO with the OLD one?
Call your local Fire Station and ask if you can come by some day for a quick class ...
Tell 'em "I'll bring my old extinguisher to use, just need you guys to build a fire and
show me how to use it." (We LIKE building fires! :D )
After you use it - toss it in the dumpster.
Be Safe!
/s/ Phred
Never thought of that! thank you Phred! I will be calling in the morning, ours have traveled 3 states with us, and now I will learn to use it effectively and buy new ones!!
May I never need it but if I do, I will be thanking you for the advice of how to use one properly!
Now this is is exactly the question I was asking myself yesterday as I dashed from the house to the garage to grab the fire extinguisher my husband bought me 8 years ago.... thank God it worked, although it took me a few minutes to figure it out (that's when I dialed 911 & got the real fire guys on their way to my house.Quote:
Originally Posted by cassiesmom
And just why did I need the Fire guys & an extinguisher, you might be asking? :rolleyes:
I accidently turned the wrong burner on my brand-new stove to heat water ...when I came back 10 minutes later, I saw foot-high flames, & black smoke pouring into the kitchen. I shoved everything else off the counter onto the floor and slammed a wok over the whole mess, then ran to get the extinguisher, realizing that I had no idea how to use it. It seemed stuck. I grabbed the phone & dialed 911. While talking to the 911 operator, I finally got it to work, and by the time the fire guys showed, the blaze was out. They used huge fans to blow the house clear, and checked all the wiring on my (brand new) stove. All that was left was my melted acrylic salt shaker, now looking like the snowball from hell, firmly attached to the (brand new) stovetop.
I was amazed at how quicky the dry chemical extinguisher put out the fire. I have spent the past 24 hours trying to clean the fine veil of powder covering everything in the house. (which just went up for sale last week), and picking bits of plastic off the (brand new) stovetop. The stove is fine, just need a new drip pan.
It was a rough day. I'm so glad 8-yr old fire extinguishers still work, it could have been so much worse.
I really had no intention to confess all this on PT, but it seems so appropriate at this moment.That is such good advice, Phred, I found out when I needed it, I was clueless as to how to use it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinder & Smoke
WOW! ~~~ *Yee-Haw!*Quote:
Originally Posted by cyber-sibes
Good on ya! ... Way to GO, Pat!! :D
You probably *saved* your house! Stove fires rapidly become kitchen cabinet fires!
Now a few suggestions in case you decide to do it again ...
1) FIRST step is to do the 9-1-1 thing - BEFORE you play Freida Firefighter yourself!
Get the Gang with the BRTs (Big Red Trucks) on the way FIRST ... then do your own thing!
2) Consider storing the extinguisher near where you might need it!
Kitchen - good place is on the inside of a low-level cabinet door - CLOSE to
the exit doorway
out of the kitchen. You want to have the extinguisher between the fire
and the exit -
so you can get to the exit without having to pass the fire!
"Out in the garage" is a lil bit further than I'd suggest for the "kitchen" extinguisher!
And - have we called the Fire Guys yet, on 9-1-1 ?
Lastly - and do it NOW ...
* Go FIND your extinguisher
* READ the Instructions - they're ALWAYS printed on the label!
* Give it a lil *SHAKE* to keep the dry chemical inside "loose"
* CHECK the Gauge to be sure it reads "FULL"
* HANG it UP in it's bracket - so you know where it is
HOPEFULLY, you won't need to play Freida Firefighter - but if you do ...
You'll be ready to do a Good Job like Pat did!
:D
FARFIGHTER, LIFE - MEYBEY, SAVER - PHRED, you are THE MAN, my goodness we love yuou :cool:
We don't even have a fire extinguisher. :eek:
My kitchen fire extinguisher is about 9 years old and there is a way of checking it by pressing this little red button on top.
Still.....I could call my local FD and go down there anyway. I could use some eye candy to look at......even compare them with the LA team. ;) :D "Do I hold it like this Mr. Firefighter????"
Cybes, I can only imagine how scary this must have been. I'm not sure I would be as composed as you say you were. Lucky you.
Phred, thanks for all the advice. Yea, YOU DA MAN BABY!!!
Wow Pat, thank heavens everyone is alright! How frightening!
I was telling Jasper and my kids about me calling tomorrow and much to my surprise.........My son has learned (now his mom needs to) how to use a home extinguisher!
The FD here works with the schools to teach not just stop drop and roll, but because so many kids are latchkey, to also diall 911 and to use a extinguishers correctly! :eek:
Still calling tomorrow so tht all of us know how!
Yup, as it turned out, I ran right past the extinguisher hanging on the back of the cabinet in the hallway right next to the kitchen, duh. And you're right, I should have called 911 FIRST. (Thanks for your "live" advice too, Phred, it was very thoughtful of you to call. I appreciate it. Will follow through tomorrow. ;))Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinder & Smoke
Thank you, Phred. You're awesome. When I was a nursing assistant, the fire department came with fire extinguishers and we got to actually put out a fire they started in the parking lot. When I was a hospital nurse, we had mandatory fire safety training regularly, so I felt more comfortable dealing with a fire extinguisher. Now - I work in an office, so I don't worry quite as much since I wouldn't have to move people in wheelchairs in an emergency.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinder & Smoke
Don't let your guard down ...Quote:
Originally Posted by cassiesmom
a "modern" office, with it's typical content of paper and plastic,
can turn into a raging inferno in a matter of minutes! :eek:
It still pays to keep your fire extinguisher skills *sharp*.
And don't forget - an early 9-1-1 call gets the Fire Guys and their BRTs there
in time to save some stuff!
;)