Bitch in whelp feeding raw. ..

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02-28-2007, 06:26 PM
borzoimom

Bitch in whelp feeding raw. ..

I have had many litters over the years. I started feeding raw in 1984 but always got worried about keeping a bitch in whelp on raw, and went back to what I knew would work. Praise the Lord- I never lost a puppy. I want this litter to be with the bitch on raw the whole pregancy. I have an idea- but I am looking for those of you that feed raw, and have whelped pups on raw for tips to help with Galina.
I know the tables change-. I heard they no longer need red raspberry on raw. I am concerned how to increase food without making a slower digestive tract.. Its stupid with the number of litters I have had I would be nervous- but understand - this is my first Borzoi litter.. And I am looking for tips. Please also give WHY you do what you do. What does it help with?? etc.. Any help is appreciated...
YES THIS IS AN INVITE.. lol.
02-28-2007, 06:30 PM
borzoimom

Oh- what she eats now is chicken, beef liver, chicken liver, cottage cheese and yogurt- a whole egg per meal, missing link vitamins, vitacoat, and a tiny mixture of solid gold, and wolf king bison ( like two tablespoons if that). Uhh lets see.. ohhhhhhhhhhhh tipoli fish..
02-28-2007, 06:34 PM
DrKym

Is this an invite LOL??
I would be happy to share what I have learned with raw and whelping bitches, and would be happy to help.
02-28-2007, 06:50 PM
borzoimom

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Goodnow

Is this an invite LOL??
I would be happy to share what I have learned with raw and whelping bitches, and would be happy to help.

YES ITS AN INVITE- GET OFF YOUR you know what and answer me- or uh anyone else with a uh apology as I am blunt with Kym.. sorry about that..
Sarah??? How about you??? etc etc etc etc etc
02-28-2007, 06:56 PM
coco-bean

sorry i dont know much about raw but i'd assume that feeding raw would be perfectly okay and normal since if they were in the wild(such as wolfs ect.) they wouldnt have a choice of going back to doggie food.
Kinda curious to the answers you get as well!
I didnt know you were going to have a liter, is she already pregnant or is this kinda new?
02-28-2007, 06:59 PM
DrKym

Well first off so I am not totally flamed, understand I dont add veggies to my guys diet, some ppl do and that is fine. My guys dont like them (liar maker is Goofy who adores tomatoes).

Keeping a bitch in whelp on raw is the same as keeping her on it every other time, paying attention to what she will need a bit extra of, calcium, iron and fats.

2 eggs a day is way more than I would use, but you know your dog.

When Emmylou was in whelp, and approximately the same weight as Galina, her diet was

AM feeding one chicken leg quarter with a beef rib bone and a few spoonfuls of cottage cheese

Midday feeding

Apiece of salmon with skin attached, and a another short rib bone

Evening feeding:

A few thinly sliced pieces of beef or lamb livers, cottage cheese, and an egg
shell and all

Now understand that other than the organ meats you can sub any meats your dogs are used to. Emmy also would get switched with lamb, beef , venison, chevron, beefalo, Emu and Ostrich and duck
02-28-2007, 07:50 PM
borzoimom

Quote:

Originally Posted by coco-bean

sorry i dont know much about raw but i'd assume that feeding raw would be perfectly okay and normal since if they were in the wild(such as wolfs ect.) they wouldnt have a choice of going back to doggie food.
Kinda curious to the answers you get as well!
I didnt know you were going to have a liter, is she already pregnant or is this kinda new?

Galina is being bred. She is ready to go, excellent health and weight. Now we just wait as I twiddle my fingers waiting.
02-28-2007, 08:37 PM
borzoimom

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Goodnow

Well first off so I am not totally flamed, understand I dont add veggies to my guys diet, some ppl do and that is fine. My guys dont like them (liar maker is Goofy who adores tomatoes).

Keeping a bitch in whelp on raw is the same as keeping her on it every other time, paying attention to what she will need a bit extra of, calcium, iron and fats.

2 eggs a day is way more than I would use, but you know your dog.

When Emmylou was in whelp, and approximately the same weight as Galina, her diet was

AM feeding one chicken leg quarter with a beef rib bone and a few spoonfuls of cottage cheese

Midday feeding

Apiece of salmon with skin attached, and a another short rib bone

Evening feeding:

A few thinly sliced pieces of beef or lamb livers, cottage cheese, and an egg
shell and all

Now understand that other than the organ meats you can sub any meats your dogs are used to. Emmy also would get switched with lamb, beef , venison, chevron, beefalo, Emu and Ostrich and duck

Lamb livers? cant get that- can you suggest something else???
03-01-2007, 12:29 AM
wolfsoul

Visa ate raw during her pregnancy. :) I didn't change much. I just made sure to feed her lots of poultry and pork so that she got alot of folic acid, I doubled her shark cartilage and glucosamin/chondroitin, and I was careful to make sure she got enough calcium.
03-01-2007, 07:42 AM
borzoimom

Thank you all- that is easing my mind.
03-01-2007, 08:24 AM
coco-bean

Quote:

Originally Posted by borzoimom

Galina is being bred. She is ready to go, excellent health and weight. Now we just wait as I twiddle my fingers waiting.

oh yay, i cant wait to see some pictures!!!
03-01-2007, 08:40 AM
borzoimom

Quote:

Originally Posted by coco-bean

oh yay, i cant wait to see some pictures!!!

DO NOT WORRY- plenty of pictures when its time!! :D
03-01-2007, 11:34 AM
Husky_mom

May I have one of Galina´s puppies ;)
03-01-2007, 11:48 AM
borzoimom

Quote:

Originally Posted by Husky_mom

May I have one of Galina´s puppies ;)

Wish I could- but they are already spoken for with a long waiting list.
I have been doing alot of research- I think my worries are unfounded about this as far as what to add etc. Even simplier in some ways than what I would do with a "kibble" type diet.. hmmm..
03-01-2007, 12:19 PM
Husky_mom

Quote:

Originally Posted by borzoimom

Wish I could- but they are already spoken for with a long waiting list.

aww man!!.........well worth the try ;).........maybe some other time......

I think Wolfsoul can give you some pointers as she sai she went raw through the whole pregnancy and whelping of Visa.........
03-01-2007, 01:06 PM
borzoimom

Quote:

Originally Posted by Husky_mom

aww man!!.........well worth the try ;).........maybe some other time......

I think Wolfsoul can give you some pointers as she sai she went raw through the whole pregnancy and whelping of Visa.........

They are not even born yet..
03-01-2007, 01:13 PM
Husky_mom

Quote:

Originally Posted by borzoimom

They are not even born yet..

I know, but it´s so exciting I can´t wait!! :D
03-01-2007, 02:05 PM
GreyhoundGirl

Quote:

Originally Posted by borzoimom

DO NOT WORRY- plenty of pictures when its time!! :D

Or ELSE... :D
03-01-2007, 02:24 PM
applesmom

How soon will she be bred?
03-01-2007, 05:16 PM
borzoimom

Quote:

Originally Posted by applesmom

How soon will she be bred?

Should be soon. .. Borzois are soooo fickel .. no wonder they are rare.. lol..
03-01-2007, 05:28 PM
coco-bean

Quote:

Originally Posted by borzoimom

Should be soon. .. Borzois are soooo fickel .. no wonder they are rare.. lol..

You mean your not counting down the days haha! I think i'd be marking it on a calendar! haha
03-01-2007, 05:51 PM
applesmom

Quote:

Originally Posted by borzoimom

Should be soon. .. Borzois are soooo fickel .. no wonder they are rare.. lol..

Then she isn't in heat right now? Are you still going with the lovely new stud you picked out?
03-01-2007, 06:01 PM
coco-bean

Quote:

Originally Posted by applesmom

Then she isn't in heat right now? Are you still going with the lovely new stud you picked out?

did i miss a thread on the male you picked out?
03-01-2007, 06:01 PM
borzoimom

Quote:

Originally Posted by applesmom

Then she isn't in heat right now? Are you still going with the lovely new stud you picked out?

She is swollen and the males are marking her spots- but not yet. Knowing what I know- we have maybe two weeks tops.
Same sire- This is the sire.. I cant wait! http://www.geocities.com/irishbrookborzoi/
03-01-2007, 06:02 PM
coco-bean

oh yay im so excited for you. I cant wait!
03-01-2007, 06:04 PM
borzoimom

Quote:

Originally Posted by coco-bean

oh yay im so excited for you. I cant wait!

Here is the sire coco-bean http://www.geocities.com/irishbrookborzoi/
03-01-2007, 06:16 PM
coco-bean

so Borzois are pretty rare?
03-01-2007, 06:19 PM
borzoimom

Quote:

Originally Posted by coco-bean

so Borzois are pretty rare?

Yes- they have a 18 month to 2 year heat cycles and for their size only 5-9 pups. Only a little over I think 700 pups were registered last year in the AKC verses 10's of thousands of labs.. That is why the long waiting lists.
03-01-2007, 06:41 PM
coco-bean

wow!
03-01-2007, 06:45 PM
GreyhoundGirl

So excited... Calm down, me... she isn't even bred yet... :rolleyes: Sheesh! You have a geographie test and tomorow comes quickly, Galina has pups and AWE hits theaters and today lasts a life time! :p
03-01-2007, 07:05 PM
borzoimom

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreyhoundGirl

So excited... Calm down, me... she isn't even bred yet... :rolleyes: Sheesh! You have a geographie test and tomorow comes quickly, Galina has pups and AWE hits theaters and today lasts a life time! :p

Aww what the hey- you are getting bombed in snow by tomorrow anyway.. lol. :D
03-01-2007, 07:06 PM
GreyhoundGirl

lol!
03-01-2007, 07:50 PM
applesmom

Very elegant,fantastic coat! Whose kennel name will the puppies carry? Your kennel name or the kennel name of one of Galina's co-owners?
03-01-2007, 08:04 PM
borzoimom

Quote:

Originally Posted by applesmom

Very elegant,fantastic coat! Whose kennel name will the puppies carry? Your kennel name or the kennel name of one of Galina's co-owners?

Mine..