Turner the siamese?**New Turner the Terrible pics added!

This is my mom kitten. She seen a lady giving kitten away at a store! Well worse yet, they were way too young. He was barely 4wks when she got him. He was solid white except his tail and the outline of his ears. Over time he is changing, these are not the most recent pics, he has more color now even. Its spreading slowly on his face and he is getting color on his feet a little now too. Eventually im sure he will have full markings. He didnt have any color on his nose when she first got him. His mom was supposed to be a torti, father unknown. His eyes are crystal blue, and at time a bit crossed. lol Am I wrong that he seems to have a lot of siamese in him? By his looks, the changes in color and all that?

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No it really looks like he is a pure bred Applehead flame point siamese..... My little Paris looked just like him she is very siamese now. Her mother was dark grey blue color. There was no siamese marking on her what so ever. But she is a definate siamese she acts siamese completely talks to herself in a bedroom just to hear herself talk. She is great. Just so you know everyone that has a flame point male siamese cats they say they are the BIGGEST lovers or when they slow down they become big LOVERS. I will attach pictures if Paris when I first adopted her and her now. Enjoy!

It certainly looks like you have a flame point siamese there! What a cutie he is too! It is typical for their color to come in as they get older, especially with the lighter colored siamese.

**hugs**

Here are some newer pics... he is in the evil terror kitten stage at the moment.. lol

He wont hold still, Here, I will just hold him for you ok..
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e8...0/100_1927.jpg

Turner says... "no I wanna go play!!"
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e8...0/100_1928.jpg

Turner says "Lady, I TOLD you I want to goooo play!"
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Spying for his next victim...
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Target found!
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Recently he has become a biter! He has hit the wild stage for sure, its fun...sometimes. lol

OMG! Turner is a feisty one, isn't he? LOL

My Starr is also a Flame point Siamese mix and it takes about 2 years before they have all of their points. He's also a biter and very feisty just like Turner.:) You can see him in my avatar and siggie picture. I'll post a few pictures of him later.:)

;) Oh yes I can see that Terrible Tootie Cutness in the Eyes & that nose.. How so adorable.. My Misti is so bad that the Vet's office cringe when she comes in.. :D

Here's my Starr:

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He'll be 2 years old in March. You can see that his flamepoints have come out much more now.

Wow, thats a lot of color! You said it took almost 2 years? She is so pretty, I am really loving this flame color, just not one you see all the time you know? Turner isnt my boy :( I wish he were. I am with him everyday though and he loves me. My mom always jokes that im his mama. I would be afraid of a male in my house anyways... I have had way too many animals come through here, and a large majority had potty isssue at one point. It wouldnt completely stop me, just a preference of mine to be safe. I cant wait for him to grow up and see what he turns out like. :)

I can not agree with you on the fact that you think he is siamese. they have a diferent body type than that. Go to the link below and you can get several pictures of a pure bred siamese...http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/siamese.html
btw- he could have a little siamese in him but he is definetly not purebred.

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Originally Posted by bengal_and_mutts

I can not agree with you on the fact that you think he is siamese. they have a diferent body type than that. Go to the link below and you can get several pictures of a pure bred siamese...http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/siamese.html
btw- he could have a little siamese in him but he is definetly not purebred.

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The pictures that you are showing are of the typical wedge head siamese there is also a group of siamese called an Applehead siamese and he is a close desendent of that group.. Their color and points are the same as the "Wedge Head" Siamese but their features are not as dramatic as the the Wedge head show cats. People that really like the siamese loyalty and personality but dont care for the extremely large ears and long prenounced nose tend to find the Apple head a little more appealing. There is no doubt that he could quite possibly be an applehead siamese for sure. Or he has some close decendents that are siamese the flame points(Orange) and the Blue eyes are good signs that he had either a mother that was siamese or his dad was siamese. Purebred or not he is probely one to the most loyal cats that you will ever own. Paris lives her life to be with me. And I love it totally. Her mother was a Russian Blue cross and her dad was a siamese (So they think??) She is totally siamese right down to the MEOWS!! That come out of her. If he is a one person loving talker you will know that he is a true siamese kitty!!! ;)

I can see why you would say that...but just because a cat has blue eyes and loves talk, doesn't mean they are siamese. you're right about the applehead thing but body shape would still be off...nevermind, he's still a kitten and he still has to develope those long slender legs(if he is purebred). if he is mix then I could DEFENETLY see ALOT of siamese in him.

I think that he's a Siamese Flame Point Mix just like my cat Starr is.:)

agreed. definetly not purebred but siamese mix...yes :D

You can tell your Mom that he is going to be one beautiful boy when he is done growing and getting his color. My neighbor has one like that with the beautiful blue eyes and she is stunning. Her name is Yetta and here are a few pic's of that beautiful girl!

Spread out to show her beautiful colors

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...7/HPIM0985.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...HPIM2592-1.jpg

as you can see from all the look a likes here... He is going to be a real fine cat!

Turner is a cutie!!!!!

Oh, who cares what breed he is....all I know is that he is adorable!!! :p

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Originally Posted by Taz_Zoee

Oh, who cares what breed he is....all I know is that he is adorable!!! :p

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thank you! :D

Well we KNOW he isnt purebreed at all. I just think he has an aweful lot of siamese in him, its hard to believe. Father unknown, but mother a dark torti? Just hard to believe he came from a torti. I was thinking that possibly his father could have been a true meezer for him to look so much like one. His tail is deffinate orange strip, which I belive also is not normal for a meezer right? He is getting much thinner and different body. I will have to try and get some recent pics of him standing. For now here is a new one of him curled up thats cute.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e8...k0/turnero.jpg

Well whatever breed Turner is, he sure is very handsome and I bet he'll look a lot like my Starr when he grows up.:) Starr was found when he was only about 1-2 days old so I have no idea what his parents looked like. I can only imagine that one of them may have been orange and one had to have some siamese in them.:)

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Originally Posted by Taz_Zoee

Oh, who cares what breed he is....all I know is that he is adorable!!! :p

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My sentiments exactly!

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Originally Posted by emilysgk

Well we KNOW he isnt purebreed at all. I just think he has an aweful lot of siamese in him, its hard to believe. Father unknown, but mother a dark torti? Just hard to believe he came from a torti. I was thinking that possibly his father could have been a true meezer for him to look so much like one. His tail is deffinate orange strip, which I belive also is not normal for a meezer right? He is getting much thinner and different body. I will have to try and get some recent pics of him standing. For now here is a new one of him curled up thats cute.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e8...k0/turnero.jpg

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OOOH! Look at that face!!! He is so handsome! I wasn't ever big into the siamese breed till I started on this site, and saw the differences from the wedge and applehead varieties. I think that came from my mother being opposed to loud, vocal cats. I'm just amazed at how loving they all seem to be! Mine are all just domestics, except I think one that KAK identified as a Norwegian Forest Cat, but they definitely don't all love eachother, lol.

Your boy Turner is gorgeous, no matter what breed he is! It will be great to see how his colors come in as he grows.... keep us updated!

Oh, I think I see a definite Meezer wedgie head there - or, as my sister used to call it, anvil heads! :D

Definitely some meezer in those cute veins!