Chipper + Cat Food = Ick! Ick! Ick!

Update post #337



Not sure if it was the little bit of turkey he got on Thanksgiving or the stress of traveling 5 hours to Toronto (despite him sleeping the entire way) or a mix of both or something unknown, but Chipper is not well.

Friday morning he had soft stool which worsened to full blown diareha and also vomiting frothy bile. When he had nothing left to poop out, he'd pretty much defecate blood. :(

He won't eat anything but he is drinking water. We picked up some pedialyte in hopes to get some electolytes into him and we'll try some bland rice later.

Fingers crossed.

He does not look well.

If we can't get him to eat anything by Monday he'll be off to the vets.

Awww, poor Chipper!

:eek:

Hi God ~

Need sum Quick Help down here onna Durt Ball ... New Guy Chipper hadda *ruff* Holiday
an sure izint feelin too "chipper" rite now! :(

Dunno iffin he's alergic to Turkey or travelin ... but he's a Sick Pup anna Folks are worried!
Iffin we gotta "choice" - we'd rather it be alergic ta Turkey ...
his Fambily are the Travelin Kind ... an he sorta needs ta be able to go Bus Ridin
wiffout gettin tummy trubles.

Not even sure WHERE he is rite now - maybe Toronto or maybe Mish-e-gun ...
but hopefully You can *spot* him an do sum tummie fixin on him.

We'll all be *krossin* Pawz & Klawz, an sendin Prayers for a Quick Fix on Chipper.

THANKS, God!

/s/ the Prayer Pups

Oh no :( He'll be in my thoughts, hope he's feeling better soon!

Sorry to hear that about Chipper. :( poor baby.Prayers and positive
thoughts for Chipper. Hope he keeps the water down, that can help.

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Originally Posted by ramanth

Not sure if it was the little bit of turkey he got on Thanksgiving ...

He does not look well.

If we can't get him to eat anything by Monday he'll be off to the vets.

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* Alergic to Turkey ??

* Picked up a *bug* in the Canadian WATER ??

* Could he be suffering from Bloat / Twisted Stomach / Gastric Dilatation ??

Bloat seems unlikely IF he is able to actually "throw up" - but I'm not sure I'd want to
wait till Monday if he hasn't shown some improvement by tomorrow.

Routine Upset Tummy remedy is NO food for 24 hours;
then try rice + boiled chicken or rice + WELL-cooked hamburger.

FEEL BETTER SOON, Chipper!

{{{Hugs}}} to the Mom & Dad

/s/ Phred

Aww poor Chipper! Hope he feels better soon!

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Originally Posted by ramanth

Not sure if it was the little bit of turkey he got on Thanksgiving or the stress of traveling 5 hours to Toronto (despite him sleeping the entire way) or a mix of both or something unknown, but Chipper is not well.

Friday morning he had soft stool which worsened to full blown diareha and also vomiting frothy bile. When he had nothing left to poop out, he'd pretty much defecate blood. :(

He won't eat anything but he is drinking water. We picked up some pedialyte in hopes to get some electolytes into him and we'll try some bland rice later.

Fingers crossed.

He does not look well.

If we can't get him to eat anything by Monday he'll be off to the vets.

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Poultry will give soft bowel if they are not use to it, and turkey more so. Your idea of pedialyte is a good one, and I agree- if not better to the vets.
Meanwhile- withhold breakfast to allow the stomach to clear out, then half rations the dinner feeding. "Frothy bile" is gas in the stomach. If you are sure he didnt get a bone, then I would say this will clear it.

Poor Chipper :( Hope your tummy feels better real soon!

My vet once told me she sees a LOT of diarrhea after thanksgiving. And TURKEY is the cause. So hoping that is all it is, poor boy. :(

:( Hope Chipper's feeling chipper again soon!

I don't want to worry you, but I wouldn't wait until Monday. I forget, was he in a shelter environment? Around a lot of new dogs? The symptoms sound like parvo. Does the diarrhea have a horrible stench? Worse than 'regular' diarrhea?

Vomitting, loss of appetite, and bloody diarrhea are tell-tale signs of parvo. *Hopefully* and fingers crossed it's just a little bit of an upset tummy, but I would get him to the vet....

I'm sorry to hear that Chipper is not feeling well. :( I hope its nothing serious and he'll be feeling better soon!

Hey guys! Great news! He's eating again (just little bites of his normal crunchies) and is back in chipper spirits. :) He's been playing with his toys and Kia but we're making sure he doesn't over do it.

We're still in Toronto btw so there was no way to get him to our vet (besides the fact she's gone on vacation)- I did talk to the vet staff on Saturday though and they talked me through the steps to take.

Last night was really rough. He refused the pedialyte and the cooked rice. We tried force feeding the rice to no avail. He was stressing out so we left him be. Even though the package said not too, we ended up diluting the pedialyte and he did take a few sips. We left a handfull of crunchies and rice in his crate with him overnight in the hopes he'd want some.

At 7 a.m. he woke us to the sounds of him sucking down the diluted pedialyte. I took him outside where he peed but there was no diarreha or vomit to be had. Yay! Upon coming back inside, he went over to Andy, gave him kisses, then went to the food bowl and started eating the crunchies!! :D :D

He then grabbed his toys and wanted to play tug. Then he initiated play with Kia. And it's been that way all morning.

I really think the turkey is what did a number on him. No people food ever again.... or at least for a real long time. ;)

I'm not concerned about Parvo. He received a clean bill of health at the vets last Monday and his stool sample showed nothing wrong.

We'll be keeping an eye on him though. We also plan to make more stops on the way home so he can stretch his legs and get some fresh air.

Thanks so much for the PT prayers. They did wonders. We were really scared for a out little boy for a second there.

Actually... I got to go....they are running through the house like banshees at the moment... :rolleyes:

Glad to hear that Chipper is feeling better.

A friend of mine who is a vet tech has said a few times that Turkey actually isn't good for dogs because of something in it...kind of makes you wonder why they make turkey dog treats huh?

Thats wonderful news! He just had an upset stomach, and I am glad he is better.

So relieved to hear that Chipper is doing so much better. :) Now, you
all can enjoy your trip.

Excellent news! However, parvo has a 14 day incubation....I had the same thought! Will continue to keep Little Man in my thoughts and prayers!

:)
Hi God ~

Hey God ~ Check dis out >>>

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Originally Posted by ramanth

Hey guys! Great news!
He's eating again (just little bites of his normal crunchies) and
is back in chipper spirits. :)

Upon coming back inside, he went over to Andy, gave him kisses, then
went to the food bowl and started eating the crunchies!! :D :D

He then grabbed his toys and wanted to play tug.

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Did'ja spend da nite in Toronto, God?
You sure do *Nice Werk*, God!!

THANKS a Bunch fur fixin Chipper up!!

/s/ the :) Prayer Pups

Glad Chipper is feeling better!!

Only have a few minutes, but I had to check on this thread. I am so glad that Chipper is feeling better. I have been thinking about him all day.

I'm sorry I missed this but very glad Chipper is indeed, chipper again. He's such a doll.

Hey everyone. :) Thanks for the good thoughts. We are finally home... 8 hours later! :eek: Got to the border and encountered a 2 hour back up. Oiy. :rolleyes: My bladder was not amused. :p ;)

The pups had no accidents and both just chowed down dinner. We're going to continue giving him the diluted pedialyte since it has a short shelf life once opened. Might as well use it up.

Chipper had a soft poop before we left Toronto. No blood to be found and he was riled up all the way up to the moment we loaded them into the car. He just won't slow down. Those 2 days with no food show though. You can see his ribs. :(

Hopefully he'll gain it back and the rest of the weight he needs soon.

A little update. No accidents over night. Andy took both pups out at 6 a.m. and they peed.

Both headed straight to their beds upon coming back inside and there they stayed until I heard the tell tale sign of an animal hurking up something. Turns out it was Chipper and I got him into the kitchen where he hocked up what I would describe as a loogie. Thick, clear, and really no smell. Interesting.

A few minutes later he was doing the "I REALLY got to go" dance, so I took him out where he had more diarreha. :( Poor guy. No sign of blood though. He seemed pretty down this morning.

I'm going to double check his vaccination records to see what he's been covered for. I don't want to over react, but better to err on the side of caution. I can't bear the thought of losing my little man.

Sounds like he needs to go to the vet. My Sasha, this summer had several episodes of dirreha and vomiting. She became dehydrated. The vet gave her sub Q fluids and we put her on a gastro diet. She's not had an episode since.

aww I hope he feels better soon! (((HUGS)))

Came home and found vomit in his crate. :(

He wants to play with his toys so he's in a slightly better mood. He keeps bringing me different squeaky toys to play tug.

Didn't touch any of the food left in his crate with him. Hopefully he'll want some dinner.

He is still drinking water and having good strong pees. I also keep checking his skin to see if it's tenting at all (which it isn't) so as far as I can tell he's staying hydrated.

He received a DACCP vaccination from the shelter in September. I tried google but I can't figure out what that covers. Distemper, Parvo, or both? :confused:

I'll be calling the vet first thing in the morning.

That's a good idea to call in the morning. Hope they can help him
get leveled out. Poor Chipper. Hope you feel better soon.

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Originally Posted by ramanth

Came home and found vomit in his crate. :(

He received a DACCP vaccination from the shelter in September.
I tried google but I can't figure out what that covers. Distemper, Parvo, or both? :confused:

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"DACCP" is a puzzle!

Most Vets shoot a "Five-in-One" Vaccine, normally abbreviated "DHLPP" which protects against:
* Distemper
* Hepatitis
* Leptospirosis
* Parainfluenza
* Parvovirus

"The ASPCA recommends a five-in-one vaccination that protects dogs against several infectious diseases, including distemper, hepatitis, leptospirosis, parainfluenza and parvovirus, a highly contagious and potentially deadly disease that causes severe vomiting and diarrhea."

Did you check the Rescue web site to see if they mention anything about the
vaccinations they use?

Sure do hope the Poor Kid gets to feelin better!!

Here's where we got him from:
http://www.oakgov.com/anmlctrl/

No signs of what they vaccinate for. Though I'm curious why Chipper's adoption fee was $136.50 when their site states it's $119 (and why a sterilization fee would be assessed when they didn't neuter him). :\

Anyway... his vaccination certificate says he received a DACCP and Bordetella on 9/24/06. He was heartworm tested (came back negative) and wormed on 9/29/06.

I took him to the vet on Monday, November 20th and his brief examination showed no fleas, clean ears, good teeth and overall decent condition. Dropped off his stool sample on Tuesday and it came back negative for parasites.

He ate crunchies with vigor with no vomiting and had loose stool but I knew that would be expected with the change in diet from whatever he was getting at the shelter.

He ate a full bowl of crunchies Thursday evening and besides the added bites of turkey, got no other people food.

Friday morning he refused treats and food, had diarreha, but drank water.

Friday night he began vomiting and refused food and the diarreha got worse.

Saturday was the same. Diarreha, vomiting, refusal of food but drank plenty of water.

Sunday morning he nibbled a handful worth of crunchies. Things were looking up. He again nibbled some more upon getting home.

This morning he refused food and treats. More diarreha, vomit when I got home.

I'm so baffled. :(

He's now laying on the couch, Kia on the floor near him. He doesn't want to do anything. I have a really bad gut feeling that he's not going to want dinner.

Do you think I could add some tuna juice to it? I miss my chipper boy.

Oh my! I hope he gets well soon! :(

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Originally Posted by ramanth

This morning he refused food and treats. More diarreha, vomit when I got home.

He's now laying on the couch ...
He doesn't want to do anything.

I have a really bad gut feeling that he's not going to want dinner.

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Kimmy ~

Serious suggestion ~
Maybe it's time to completely Empty & Flush his system ...
do what Vets suggest for "upset tummy" ...

NOTHING by mouth except small sips of water for 24 Hours.

If the Vet needs to X-ray or Ultrasound him - they'll want him "empty" ...
so starting him on a Fast tonight would help.

Feel Better, Bub!

/s/ Phred

I'm sorry to hear that he still isn't feeling better. I will keep Chipper in my thoughts that he starts to feel better soon.

But he's fasted for over 48 hours already. :( Two handfuls of food is the equivilant of what he had on Sunday. Pooped this morning and has had no food. I can't imagine a more empty tummy. How long can they go without food?

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Originally Posted by ramanth

But he's fasted for over 48 hours already. :(

Pooped this morning and has had no food.
I can't imagine a more empty tummy.
How long can they go without food?

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:D
Poor Kid!

How long?
A dog in otherwise good condition can go several DAYS
without solid food - as long as he stays hydrated with water.

I'd leave him on "empty" till the Vet gets a look and runs some tests.

He MAY have a food alergy - and just a few pieces of kibble could be
enough to trigger the upsets.

I STILL can't find any info on the "DACCP" vaccination - could you be misreading the letters?

His "Fees"??
Extra $25.50 for License? For Rabies? For "storage"?
LOTS of Rescues charge a "Flat Fee" which includes spay/neuter (IF required) -
everyone pays the SAME fee regardless of the critter's spay/neuter needs.

oh no Chipper get well soon big boy!!

:( I hope the vet can figure out what's wrong, poor guy. Star used to go without any food for 3 days at a time. No special reason, she just didn't feel like eating, I guess. I suppose when Chipper feels like it, he'll eat.

I'm sorry to hear that Chipper isn't getting better. :( I hope he'll be ok!

Nebo has gone over a week with eating practically nothing.....he doesn't like to eat away from home. He lost about 9 lbs when we went to Florida/Ohio because he wouldn't eat his food, only treats and water. He was fine, but he wasn't thin to begin with like Chipper.

It sounds like he needs to go to the vet asap. I hope it turns out to be nothing serious. :( he'll be in my thoughts. (((Chipper))) please keep us updated.

Sorry I just saw this, Kim.

Tons of prayers for Chipper. It's so upsetting to watch our pets ill and leaving us baffled. Please let us know what the vet says.

I gave Cody a small amount of turkey only once and learned my lesson. He had a cast iron stomach but the turkey just about did him in. He also passed some blood, but the vet thought it was due to bowel irritation. For the first time since I've had her, I gave Logan a teeny piece of plain cooked chicken tonight, and she is laying behind me..and the room stinks. Gas butt. A first. No more people food for her, except her Special K treat.

I truly hope Chipper's back to good health soon!