Scratching sores open, help!!!

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10-23-2006, 10:20 AM
frawri

Scratching sores open, help!!!

My poor Pip has gotten hurt. Chihuahuas love to be where you are at all times. Well one day I was cooking a stew, and some of the hot juices got spilt. Pippen of course was in the way when the juices got spilt. He got scalded; I caught him and put him under cold water as fast as I could. It helped a great deal; he only had a small spot on him that got swollen. And by the next day it was gone, and he had no real tenderness at all. So I forgot about it, well on the day of our vacation. I found a small scab on Pip. I thought Belle had bitten him. So I told my brother to watch him. (He was the person who took care of our animals when we went on our vacation.) Any ways I get a call on Sat, he left a message that Pippen had scratched himself bald in the spot where the scab was. It turns out the whole area where he had gotten scalded, is healing and of course itching. So Pip has been scratching it, and has caused a huge patch of sores to open up. Now I have to find some way to afford to bring him in. So far I have been using some Aloe Vera to sooth the itching and help aid the healing. But I can’t get him to stop scratching it. Is there anything else that I can put on it, to stop the itching? I figure if I can get something like that, he will stop scratching it and there for let it heal. I have a shirt I put on him, because the bandage I wrapped around him wouldn’t stay on him. It stopped him from being able to scratch the area. But I am worried about leaving it on him all day while I am at work. What if he try’s to get it off and gets caught up in the shirt? I know they have been made with Chi’s in mind, but I worry it would do more harm then good. What do you all think? Any helpful ideas would be greatly appreciated. God bless

Francine
10-23-2006, 02:22 PM
JuniorxMyxLove

Is it on his back or stomach? Becauseonce my cat had something goinon her stomach so we put a baby one piece outfit thingon her and cut holes where they needed to be, maybe that would work, they're pretty small...

hope i helped.
10-23-2006, 03:55 PM
frawri

Thanks for trying to help, but Pippen is a Chi. He only weighs 4.5 lbs, I don't think they make onzies small enough.
10-23-2006, 07:37 PM
borzoimom

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Originally Posted by frawri

Thanks for trying to help, but Pippen is a Chi. He only weighs 4.5 lbs, I don't think they make onzies small enough.

Okay try this= first of all I assume he has seen a vet. YOu can use normal neosporan until you get there.
Meanwhile try a product called "hair of the dog" by docs blend. Its a granular you put in their food and its EXCELLENT on repairing scars on dogs. My rescue was attacked by a dog at her former owners house. And she had bald spots from thyroid medication. In a matter of 3-4 weeks on this, the bald spots were gone, her coat gleamed, and even the scar she has had for a few years is obviously repairing itself..
10-24-2006, 12:20 PM
frawri

Does this hair of the dog have any type of protein in it? Pippen can't really handle too much of the stuff. His poo starts to smell real bad. That leads me to believe his system can't handle it. I give him Lambs meal, and it seems to have helped with his food allergies. But I worry about giving him things I don't know much about. I tried him on this product called Missing Link. It was said to be great for hair and skin problems. His system didn’t get along with it. Nor did our cats and our other dog. So I have stopped using said product. Some one mentioned on another site to use bicarbonate of soda. But I don't know what that is, or where to get it. Or if it really works, this person said it would help it heal fast.
10-24-2006, 02:07 PM
areias

Honestly I would take him to the vet at least for just a visit. Get some gentocin spray and put an e-collar on him. It should heal up quickly.
10-24-2006, 02:34 PM
lv4dogs

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Originally Posted by areias

Honestly I would take him to the vet at least for just a visit. Get some gentocin spray and put an e-collar on him. It should heal up quickly.

Ditto that! I hope he gets to feeling better soon.
IF there is NO infection & you honestly can not afford a vet appointment at least stop by your pet store to purchase an elizabethan collar to prevent him from bothering that spot anymore than he already has.
10-24-2006, 06:53 PM
borzoimom

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Originally Posted by frawri

Does this hair of the dog have any type of protein in it? Pippen can't really handle too much of the stuff. His poo starts to smell real bad. That leads me to believe his system can't handle it. I give him Lambs meal, and it seems to have helped with his food allergies. But I worry about giving him things I don't know much about. I tried him on this product called Missing Link. It was said to be great for hair and skin problems. His system didn’t get along with it. Nor did our cats and our other dog. So I have stopped using said product. Some one mentioned on another site to use bicarbonate of soda. But I don't know what that is, or where to get it. Or if it really works, this person said it would help it heal fast.

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10-25-2006, 01:23 PM
frawri

To start this off, I want you all to know. All my animals are taken care of. I feed them the best food, and they are taken in to the Vet when needed. I don't make much money. But I save up what I can for just these types of emergencies. The problem being is last week we had 700 in savings. And now because of a car that has cost us 1400 to fix. We have nothing, to make matters worse, our rent is due next week, and our bank has messed up and charged us 3 times for something that was meant to only go through once. In the end they will pay us back, but this is to just let you know how bad it has to be. Before I would allow my dog to not be seen when needed. With that on to more questions on Pip.
I had been putting on Aloe Vera, but changed to Backing Soda last night. I am just wondering if you should keep putting the backing soda on until the sore is healed? I know it is good for right when the animal gets burned, but is it something you keep putting on till healed? The Aloe Vera had helped scabbed over pretty well. But I thought that with the Backing Soda healing it so fast, I should try it. I put it on last night. I washed off the Aloe and then put on the backing soda. When I checked it later on that night, it had peeled off the scab. And Pippen didn't care for the Backing soda, he started whining and running around the house. Is that normal? Or is he really in pain? (I should mention he also did that when I first put on his shirt, and does this any time I put anything new on him.) But this time he is hurt, so I have to try and discern whether he is really hurt of just playing off my fears for him. This morning I looked at it, and it was all open, with no scab on it. I want it to air out a little, before putting back on the bandage. I worry that it is on too tight, and might hurt him that way. But as soon as I take it off, he is scratching it. The hair is falling off, and reveling tender skin. But it would be ok if Pip doesn’t get to it with his claws. I have to keep the non-stick pad on him, and then I wrap the ace bandage around that, then I put his shirt on him. I just think it might be too much for him. Can you please advise me? I know dogs can learn to feed off your fears, so I wonder if that is what is taking place here.
10-25-2006, 05:43 PM
borzoimom

I would stop with the baking powder as that makes granulars in the wound. Use neosporan then if he has a scar use hair of the dog..
10-25-2006, 05:58 PM
bluebird

Call your vet and follow his advice. A burn like that does damage much deeper under the skin than is visible and affects the nerve endings. It is incredibly painful. The danger of infection is high.

Until you talk to the vet keep it clean and don't cover it with anything that will cause any sort of friction even the softest cloth. If you must, use an EC to keep him from chewing or scratching it.
10-26-2006, 07:51 AM
borzoimom

I think they already called the vet. If you dont have a E collar, you can make one out of stiff cardboard- just only keep it on when you can watch. Our vet will loan a collar to someone that is not able to pay for one. And if you are a regular client they will even see your dog with payment later...
10-26-2006, 08:41 AM
frawri

Yes I have contacted the vet that we use to go to before we moved. And they just kept saying bring him in. They were not interested in giving me any advise. I have found this vet hospital to be one of the worse I have ever attended. There have been other past experiences that have caused me to see them in this light. I am now in search of a good vet, that will listen to my worries and help me understand what needs to be done in different circumstances. I had a vet like that back in MN, she was the best one I have ever had. But we had to move to KY, so on goes the search for that special vet. I have been trying to find my old vets phone number just to ask her these questions. But no luck so far.
Some good news, I have stopped using the Backing Soda, I think some one mention it has to many granules in it. And that is what I have found out too. I am using a generic of Neosporin; will that work just as well? It has seemed to have soothed the sore a bit already. As for the EC, he doesn't chew so much on the sore as he likes to scratch it. So I have put on all the stuff I told you about. But when I take the stuff of for the wound to get some air. I put a band-aid on his rear foot, to soften the scratch. So he has stopped trying to scratch it. I wish I had thought of that earlier on. His wounds wouldn't be as bad as they are. They just started out as very tender skin, that was healing on its own. He scratched it, and it all went to _ _ _ _ after that.
10-26-2006, 10:45 AM
borzoimom

Generic neosporan works just as well but you have to apply it more. I really cant operate as a vet, but I have learned a few things over the years. I am also in a remote area, and have learned things to help until I can get the dogs to the vet. Our vet is closed on saturdays, and doesnt reopen til sunday evening but they are great.
I was told actually by them to use neosporan for abrasions, cuts, and one time Hottie stepped on a hot coal when we had a fireplace before we put the wood stove in. That is what they told me to use.
One time a hot ash from my husbands cig fell on my doberman. That is what they suggested also. It has antibiotics on it, and vaseline to keep the skin moist and lubricated to heal as well. Make sure its the antiobiotic kind..
10-26-2006, 05:13 PM
bluebird

You might want to check with the vet to see if it would be safe to use a little lanacain or preperation H on the area to relieve the pain too.

From your description, this is not merely superficial, but rather a 3rd degree burn that requires the supervision of a vet or someone with experience to actually view the extent of the wound and prescribe treatment.
10-26-2006, 06:07 PM
borzoimom

Well neosporin does has a pain reliever that is safe as I found out with Hottie when he stepped on a hot ember before we got the woodstove verses a fireplace..
10-27-2006, 08:04 AM
frawri

Just wanted to let you know after a long search, I found a vet that will take payments. So I am going to be able to at last take my Pip in to see some one. I am just relived that I can get some help for him now. The generic Neosporin I have been putting on him, has been working. But I want to make certain that nothing else is wrong with him. Thanks for all your helpful ideas.
10-29-2006, 09:53 AM
MajesticCollies

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10-29-2006, 11:45 AM
borzoimom

Thats good stuff!
10-31-2006, 08:05 AM
frawri

Update: Pippen is doing so much better. The wound he had from the burn is healing very well. It isn't angry red any more either. He is on some antibiotics and an ointment to take care of the wound it's self. He is much happier now. I think he will be even more excited when he is able to stop having me fuss over him every morning and night. He hates the bandages I have to leave on him. The vet said that his hair may never come back. But some one told me of a product called Hair of the dog, or at least I think that was the name. Dose any one know of a product called that, and if it really works? The person who told me about this product, said it would help with making the wound have less scar tissue. And help grow back the hair in the area where the wound was. I just want to find out if there is any such product out there that works that well? Thanks for all the help you have been, and any more help I may receive. God bless. :)
10-31-2006, 08:39 AM
borzoimom

It works great! Here is the link of testimonies, and you will see me on there as well. Femka had a 4 year old scar on her nose, and you can barely see it now.. http://www.docsblend.com/H-Testimonials.html
10-31-2006, 01:29 PM
frawri

Borziomom, I have a few more questions on (hair of the dog) I use to give my two Chihuahua's and my two cats Missing Link. It is said to help with the hair and skin just like your Hair of the Dog does. I used it, and for a bit it worked. But after about 2 weeks on the stuff, both my dogs and cats had real bad smelling bowl and pee movements. I took them off the ML, and the bad smell stopped. I don't know why my pets reacted this way. Nor does my vet. I know that Pippen had that same bad smelling pee when I fed him Greenies. So of course I stopped feeding it to him. I just want to make certain I wont get that same reaction from this Hair of the Dog. Do you know if the Missing Link has the same ingredients as your Hair of the dog? I was thinking it might have had something to do with the high protein that the ML had in it. My dogs and cats are good at drinking a good amount of water. So I know it had nothing to do with not getting enough water. Does Hair of the Dog have a lot of protein in it? I also was told by another person who breeds Chi's. That Pippen more then likely wont get his hair to grow back. No matter what you put on it. Does this stuff work for deep burns? Sorry for the 20/20 questions, I just want to make certain I am giving them a good product.
10-31-2006, 02:24 PM
borzoimom

No Missing link is more of a vitamin and lower on omega 6 and 3's and also Missing link has preservatives and Hair of the dog doesnt..
11-01-2006, 08:27 AM
frawri

Does Hair of the Dog have to be refrigerated? Missing Link had to be put in the refrigerator so that it wouldn't spoil. I read that Hair of the Dog has 20% protein in it. What type of protein is it? Thanks for bearing with me on this, I know I ask a lot of questions. But with out asking, how can you learn. :D
11-01-2006, 01:27 PM
borzoimom

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Originally Posted by frawri

Does Hair of the Dog have to be refrigerated? Missing Link had to be put in the refrigerator so that it wouldn't spoil. I read that Hair of the Dog has 20% protein in it. What type of protein is it? Thanks for bearing with me on this, I know I ask a lot of questions. But with out asking, how can you learn. :D

No it doesnt. Its also a digestable protein..
11-02-2006, 08:02 AM
frawri

How can I get some of this stuff? I know they have their web site, but is it in any stores like PetSmart? I would like to avoid having to pay for shipping and handeling if I can.
11-03-2006, 05:52 PM
borzoimom

Quote:

Originally Posted by frawri

How can I get some of this stuff? I know they have their web site, but is it in any stores like PetSmart? I would like to avoid having to pay for shipping and handeling if I can.

You order it on line.