Dry Kibbles

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09-21-2006, 03:38 PM
Suki Wingy

Dry Kibbles

Well, I've finally looked on the iams minichunk label, and every reason I've been wanting to swich foods was just confirmed. Corn is the second ingredient. Since I don't really know much about foods, I'll just list everything.
Niño had been having really hard poops, followed by a runny one a few minutes later every walk for the past month or so. He looks almost constipated durring walks.
He has mild epilepsy
He's pretty active
He really likes soy nuggets. (Are these not good to feed as a treat or can I keep doing it?)
He eats 1.25 cups in the morning and 1.25 cups in the evening for a total of 2.5 cups of food per day.
I will have to pay for the new food myself and go out to buy it. There is a petsmart, a pet supplies plus, and a jewel osco within driving distance. I'd be able to order if shipping didn't cost much. I'd like to spend no more than $60 a month.
So far I'm looking at Authority Harvest baked Vennison, but I can't seem to find anything but the first few engredients.
09-21-2006, 03:46 PM
Kfamr

My favorite dog food kibble is Timber Wolf Organics. It's not so easy to find although many order if off their website.

A very good website built by a friend of mine...
http://www.mordanna.com/dogfood/

It will teach you A LOT about dog food! :)
09-21-2006, 05:40 PM
flowergirl

I feed my two Authority Harvest Baked Chicken. They do really well on it. It's available at PetSmart (it's their brand). Before I switched Daisy itched alot, and she no longer does. I hope this helps. :)
09-21-2006, 07:23 PM
Giselle

I didn't know Niño had epilepsy! :eek: Yikes. Well, I don't know what kinds of food they sell at the last two stores you mentioned, but a few brands tend to be more accessible than others. This includes Canidae, Wellness, Chicken Soup, Solid Gold, Innova, and Blue Buffalo (if they still sell that kibble at PetSmart). I KNOW that a $40 bag of Canidae will last you at least a month so you shouldn't have to worry about the prices of any of these brands.

$60 a month is what it takes me to feed both Giselle and Lucky ;)

Have you visited Naturapet's website? They have a store locator so you might find one near you.
09-21-2006, 07:32 PM
Tollers-n-Dobes

I wouldn't fee Authority...come to think of it, if you can help it, I wouldn't feed anything that is available at PetsMart anymore. I feed California Natural dry food to Tango at the moment as well as some canned California Natural or Innova, but will probably try Innova dry next time. She's doing excellent on the CN, I've never seen her healthier. She eats a little over 2 cups a day and I only have to buy her food about once every month and a half or so. It costs me $53.00 Canadian, and I think it's a bit cheaper in the US. The other 3 eat Canidae as Winston wasn't handling the CN very well (it was too rich for him I think). They are all doing very well on Canidae...it's about $48.00 here for one bag, I'd definitley recommend it.
09-21-2006, 07:47 PM
Love That Collie

I feed Canidae kibble. The coat and skin is great and he does very well on this. I have tried a number of the others mentioned here and he either didn't like them or they didn't agree with him at all. I can remember that California Natural gave him gas like you wouldn't believe! I thought I actually had a sewer leak! LOL! Innova was the same. I pay $24.98 for a 20lb bag (in the U.S.)
09-21-2006, 10:39 PM
Suki Wingy

Thanks guys. I'm going to check out all of those brands. My parents got so fed up with me talking about switching all the time they just said if I want to switch, I have to do it all on my own.
Sophie, his epilepsy is so mild that he only has about 2 very light seizures a year, but it's still scary.
09-21-2006, 10:59 PM
Jessika

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Originally Posted by Love That Collie

I feed Canidae kibble. The coat and skin is great and he does very well on this. I have tried a number of the others mentioned here and he either didn't like them or they didn't agree with him at all. I can remember that California Natural gave him gas like you wouldn't believe! I thought I actually had a sewer leak! LOL! Innova was the same. I pay $24.98 for a 20lb bag (in the U.S.)

I just switched to Canidae from Nutro. I thought it was going to be really expensive, but when I compared prices for the same sized bag, I was only paying about $3 more for Canidae than I was for Nutro!
09-21-2006, 11:29 PM
Suki Wingy

What protien percentage am I looking for here?
A bit more information:
Niño's 7 years old, sheds A LOT, hard to make him fat because he only eats what he wants, then runs around a lot.
I think I like Solid Gold Wolfking formula and the Timber Wolf Organic foods the best so far but I need a little help with which formula. If the page says,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timber Wold Organics

A unique formula that may be used for clearing up dermatologic and other conditions caused by adverse food reactions or the buildup of toxins. This formula may also be used for the feeding of animals that require a moderate protein diet because of disease and may be used in the management of canine obesity...
Dakota Bison Canid Formula™ is fully balanced and meets the requirements of all life stages, but we do encourage the adding of meats such as muscle meats, organ meats, sweetbreads

should I maybe look for a different formula for him because he's active and sertainly doesn't need obesity management? If so, my best bet would be Nutrient Dense Lamb, Barley, and Apple Formula or Wild & Natural Dry formula, right? The page about Wild & Natural says,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timber Wold Organics

...is designed for Guard, Military, Police and other Service Dogs, Wolves, Wolf Hybrids, Northern Dogs, kennels, show breeders and other dog enthusiasts who have a need for high levels of nutrients.

Why would we have a need for high levels of nutrients? Is that bad for a dog not working or campaigning?

Southwest Chicken and Herbs sounds very good for Niño, actually. Does anyone know if you can easily swich between the formulas of this brand? The site days somewhere that they reccomend mixing up your dog's diet. If so, I would think having some increased nutrients every once and a while would be a good thing.

My last question (for now) is, Does anyone happen to know of a site where you can enter the numer of pounds per bag and how many cups used per day, and it would give you the number of days the bag would last? That would be really handy. :)
09-22-2006, 08:15 AM
flowergirl

Quote:

but will probably try Innova dry next time. She's doing excellent on the CN, I've never seen her healthier.

Orangutango, if she is doing so well on the CN, why are you switching her food?
09-22-2006, 03:44 PM
Kater

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suki Wingy

My last question (for now) is, Does anyone happen to know of a site where you can enter the numer of pounds per bag and how many cups used per day, and it would give you the number of days the bag would last? That would be really handy. :)

Density = mass/volume
Pounds are a measure of mass.
Cups are a measure of volume.
The lbs/cup then depends on the density of a particular kibble.
You can get a ballpark estimate of "kibble density" by weighing a known number of cups of your current kibble. I'm not sure how much kibble density varies (never really considered it), but this method will at least give you some method for estimation. :)

I don't really have time to get involved with the food discussion right now, but I thought I'd just chime in with this to help you out. :) Math is your friend. ;)
09-22-2006, 04:52 PM
Tollers-n-Dobes

Quote:

Originally Posted by flowergirl

Orangutango, if she is doing so well on the CN, why are you switching her food?

She gets bored with her food if she eats the same thing day after day and after about a month and a half she just refuses to eat. That, and I believe it's better to give a dog variety and like to rotate foods around. She can handle it easily and prefers it this way too. Feeding kibble, it is difficult to give her variety and this is the only way that I can give her some sort of variety.
09-22-2006, 07:23 PM
Love That Collie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessika

I just switched to Canidae from Nutro. I thought it was going to be really expensive, but when I compared prices for the same sized bag, I was only paying about $3 more for Canidae than I was for Nutro!

Yes, it's very reasonable isn't it. :)

[Ouote=Orangutangu] She gets bored with her food if she eats the same thing day after day and after about a month and a half she just refuses to eat. That, and I believe it's better to give a dog variety and like to rotate foods around. She can handle it easily and prefers it this way too. Feeding kibble, it is difficult to give her variety and this is the only way that I can give her some sort of variety.

Orangutangu
Have you tried mixing a small amount of canned with her kibble for variety?
Just a small amount to give it a different taste? That's what I do as Bailey is sooo picky that I'd be switching kibble all the time. And it's not because I spoiled him or anything, he's just picky. And the small amount of canned of different varieties doesn't upset anything with him. I had, in the past switched a number of times and just had so many brands of kibble around it was getting expensive to find something that he would continue to eat. :eek: I donated what I had left over of the kibble to the local humane society.
09-22-2006, 07:43 PM
Tollers-n-Dobes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love That Collie

Orangutangu
Have you tried mixing a small amount of canned with her kibble for variety?
Just a small amount to give it a different taste?

She get's all sorts of things mixed in (egg, canned, carrots, chicken, etc.). She's just not big on eating and finds it to be a waste of time it seems. She's healthy, she just doesn't enjoy eating and the only way to keep her eating okay is to rotate her kibble every so often :).
09-22-2006, 07:44 PM
Jessika

A healthy dog won't let itself starve ;)
09-22-2006, 07:47 PM
Tollers-n-Dobes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jessika

A healthy dog won't let itself starve ;)

That's what I used to think too until I got her. She's been like this since she was a pup and has been to the vet a few times since then just to make sure she's healthy and that there isn't anything causing her not to eat. I'm not sure if she'd actually starve herself, but she has gone about 4 days without eating much of anything until I went and got her something else. The vet says she's perfectly fine and that some dogs just don't enjoy eating if they know that they could be playing or doing something else instead.

Anyway, I don't want to get this thread any more off topic than it already is..
09-22-2006, 08:26 PM
Love That Collie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orangutango

She get's all sorts of things mixed in (egg, canned, carrots, chicken, etc.). She's just not big on eating and finds it to be a waste of time it seems. She's healthy, she just doesn't enjoy eating and the only way to keep her eating okay is to rotate her kibble every so often :).

Yes, I know what you mean.
Eating is not high on Bailey's list of things to do either.
He has been known to even not eat chicken and other meat(s). :rolleyes:
But I guess I'd have to say that if he had a favorite food it would have to
be plain yogurt. :confused:
09-23-2006, 08:39 AM
Zippy

what about Eukanuba?
09-23-2006, 09:38 AM
Love That Collie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippy

what about Eukanuba?

Eukanuba ......no and Iams is the same as Eukanuba except with different
packaging and Eukanuba is a little more expensive. Both are made by the same company. Has corn in it. lThe two of these foods are not very good.
There's so many good foods out there without buying something like Iams or Eukanuba.
09-23-2006, 09:49 PM
Suki Wingy

I found a site that said a very approximate guess is that you will get 2 cups to every pound of food. I'd still like to know about the Timber Wolf Organics though!! I went to Petsmart today and the only decent food they had there was Blue Buffalo Lamb and Rice. If I can't afford Solid Gold or TWO then I'll probably end up getting the Blue.
09-23-2006, 11:36 PM
wolf_Q

Do you have a Costco near you? My parents feed the Kirkland brand food to Reggie and Sydney and for the price its much better than other foods in that price range ($17.99 for 40 lbs I believe). Here's the only ingredient list I could find http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/images/...nd-chicken.jpg No, its not Canidae, Innova, Timberwolf Organics, etc....but I would choose that over Iams.
09-24-2006, 12:39 AM
Suki Wingy

It does look ok. We do occasionally go to Costco. Thank you for that suggestion!