"Non Hyper Family Labs"

I was looking up a few things using google, when I came across this headline... "Non Hyper Family Labs"...I just about LMAO. I was then looking through their website, and I just wanted to highlight a few of the things I found amusing.

They are chewers by nature, but with some gentle guidance will learn what is OK to chew. The worst thing you could do is to punish them for this act. Simply take your television out of their mouth, and replace it with a piece of wood. They will need attention, such as walking, or swimming. They traditionally show a love of water and retrieving. You and a tennis ball will be their best friends. As they have a need for space and exercise, they are not ideal apartment dogs
Um...a piece of wood? And if their labs are chewing on televisions, I would be a little worried.

Please remember that puppies have a very delicate digestion system. Trading dog foods, the stress of going to a new environment, or chewing on the wrong items can give your pup a temporary case of vomiting or diarrhea. By going to the vet unnecessarily at a young age, you may actually be exposing him to a virus lingering in the clinic. Though it is unlikely your pup will experience any of these conditions, please call us should they develop. We can help in deciding if this is a condition needing treatment by a vet.

They can have an upset stomach (when a puppy digests a foreign object,they could develop diarrhea, and in some cases you may see a little blood in the stool (At least this is an all natural material). This is normally caused by the foreign material (the bowl of a puppy will bleed very easily ( the saying is "trash mouths (meaning they will eat anything) and baby stomachs (meaning very sensitive) ", unlike humans the severity of this is low. Should this occur, don't be alarmed.
If a puppy is having bloody diarrhea, or vomiting, it could be really a number of viruses or indicate a serious problem, or could become dehydrated-a new puppy owner should always be slightly alarmed and get it checked out!

In the event a pup is not desirable, (that has never happened) we will be glad to float your deposit to any other litter.
Yeah, sure okay!

3. Is crate training a good idea?

NO. I know many books and breeders swear by this method, but after years of trials I am opposed to it with little exception. Crate training takes advantage of the Lab’s natural tendency to use the bathroom in a place other than what they consider their immediate living environment. Supposedly, you come home and let him out, and he immediately dashes for the bushes. He therefore gets used to going in the correct place, and it becomes habit. Good in theory. There are a couple of drawbacks that make other methods more attractive
5. Is it acceptable to leave my Lab crated while I go to work?

No. I know you may have friends that do this, and they may even talk about how much their Lab loves his crate. There are even books that promote this. That is simple justification for those desiring a Lab, but unable to properly care for one.

Labs were bred to be active dogs. Crating leads to a sedentary lifestyle that is extremely unhealthy, both physically and mentally. You should be able to trust your Lab with the run of your house while you are gone. Train him early, put up with a few chewed items, and you will have an actual family member – not a parrot in a cage.

If you are crating your Labrador, have yourself caned and seek forgiveness. (I’m just joking about seeking forgiveness, but please get him out of the crate!).
ESPECIALLY for new pet owners, they should look into crate training! Wow...

And the puppies they sell, are number.. Yellow #522. :eek: They also recommend not giving your dogs chew toys from the petstore, as they harbor germs. Geesh!
Anyone looking into a breeder, make sure you ask lots of questions or if they have a website, read everything! Read between the lines, and if you are a little fuzzy on anything or if anything looks wierd, make sure to ask them about and take everything with a grain of salt.

I'm sorry, but they just sound plain stupid. :eek:

5. Is it acceptable to leave my Lab crated while I go to work?

No. I know you may have friends that do this, and they may even talk about how much their Lab loves his crate. There are even books that promote this. That is simple justification for those desiring a Lab, but unable to properly care for one.


So what am i supposed to do with my 5 month old and my 10 week old, leave them to chew on my house after they get tired of chewing on their toys, or just quit my job and hope i grow a money tree in my back yard????

It sounds like it was written by a child or a young and somewhat inexperienced care provider.

I am new to this group. I have not answered any of the questions until now. But I have to say my piece about the crate issue.
I have had many dogs over the years. I have used different methods to keep my dogs when I was not home. My Lab TY was left in my bedroom when I left. He chewed a hole in my door to get out! After several attempts to fine the right thing to do with him I was forced to crate him. What a difference! He settled down and we became better friends. I wasn't angry at him when I got home for what he had destroyed.
As to the crate,He loves it. I leave it open when I am home often he goes to it on his own. I have to call him to go for a walk.
So I say crate's are great!

Oh my. I can't believe that. There are many things wrong with that breeder. Why does she state they are not hyper yet repeatedly says they need a lot of exercise? If they are calm & mellow like she says they are they should be great couch potatos. (sarcasm lol)

yeah, my dog GOES in his crate on his own when durring the day to sleep, and he could have chosed his chair, blanket, or my bed.

I feel so bad for anyone who is suckered into buying from the idiot, and anyone who takes his/her crazy advice. I bet their Labs are a wreck, too. Do they health test at all? Work them? Show them? I'm sure they don't!

I hate it when "breeders" exploit a breed and try to make it into something it's not. I've also seen ads for "RARE Low to No-Drive, Lazy" German Shepherds, Aussies & Border Collies. There is this puppy mill who a l w a y s has an ad in the SacBee, who claims to have "100% Guarenteed Calm, Not Hyper, Australian Shepherds". Who expect an Aussie to be calm all of the time? I would be worried about an illness if I had a sedentary Aussie puppy!

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Labs were bred to be active dogs. Crating leads to a sedentary lifestyle that is extremely unhealthy, both physically and mentally. You should be able to trust your Lab with the run of your house while you are gone. Train him early, put up with a few chewed items, and you will have an actual family member – not a parrot in a cage.

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I guess then I shouldn't leave my young extremely active border collie in a crate when he is home alone for 5 hours.

If the lab is loose in the house when alone, who is going to exchange the tv in his mouth for a peice of wood? LMAO

Non hyper Labs?

Am I missing something here? That falls under the same heading as military intelligence. An oxymoron.

I think this is from the same website

How to stop a lab puppy from biting

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While he is biting your hands, use your thumb and index finger to force his upper lips up against the sharp canines. (The area between your thumb and finger will rest on his nose). Give a squeeze just hard enough to make him yelp. Once you let go, he will probably charge you for more. Give it to him. This time, squeeze just a little harder, and hold the pressure for about three seconds of yelping. He will either give you a disgusted look and disappear behind the sofa, or charge you again. He may appear madder than heck, and growl as he’s charging. This should not be taken as aggression. Remember, this whole thing is a game to him. Each time he returns for more, let him have it again. Extend the hold time for two seconds every round. Do this for as many times as he returns and bites too hard. (If the biting becomes gentle mouthing, there is no need to continue). Do not quit in the middle of the game. Keep playing until he learns he can’t win. Otherwise, he wins by default, and you’ve created a monster. Eventually, he will go off and pout. Don’t go after him. Leave him alone. He will come back in a better mood after a good nap. (Remember how you felt the first time you lost pitifully in Monopoly?)

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Sounds like an real fun game. :rolleyes:

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Keep to the same strict diet that your pup was on when you picked him up. Food changes, even a morsel of a doggie treat, will cause diarrhea.

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house breaking

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If you see him in the act of going, make a loud guttural noise that will scare the hair off him. (Pretend you just found your little brother spray-painting your first car). This will make his muscles tighten, and he will stop for a few seconds. Get him outside, and leave him until he goes, even if it’s fifteen minutes. (Unless he finished in the house).

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Found something else. They are selling two labs for $1,000

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Max & Sophie came from an unfortunate situation. Their previous owner had a family hardship and realized she couldn't take care of them any longer.

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Feeding Labs raw vegetables, meats, and other human foods

If your Lab is on a proper formula of scientifically created dog food, you have nothing to gain and everything to lose by feeding human foods. A dog cannot digest carrots, asparagus, green pepper or any other raw vegetable. All they can do is to interfere with proper absorption.
Raw meats carry their own risks. If you do not own a Wolf out of the wild, leave the raw meats to the buzzards.

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Please give "Hyper Family Labs" thier stupid sign now!!!!

Their website is "http://www.labpups.com". I don't believe they health test-why would they do that if they are breeding 'family labs!?!' :rolleyes: I also found this...

http://www.labpups.com/images/LP-Savannah-250-03.jpg
http://www.labpups.com/images/NIC-Rose-250-01.jpg

It looks like they breed..a lot! These are just two of their breeding bitches. They have so many, too!

http://tinyurl.com/mfmnp
Another discussion about the breeder.

These "breeders" sound like very irresponsible, uneducated, stupid people... I think someone needs to e-mail them...

He is has 38+ females, and 12+ males. 50 dogs. And 6 litters on the ground. How is that not a puppy mill? It's so incredibly sad, every single female has huge teats and look like they're bred on a constant basis.

"Our puppies are guaranteed to be free from major genetic defects, such as hip dysplasia, generalized dermodex, etc. "

then...

"Any dog purchased from us that is diagnosed with a major genetic defect within one year of the purchase date will be eligible for a refund of money."

How unbelievably generous of them! They definitely do stand behind their dogs. ZOMG.

He also goes on to talk about SHOW LABRADORS having unfriendly temperaments. Whattt? A Labrador would be booted from a show if it displayed any sort of unfriendly demeanor while being felt up by many, many judges. Not only that, but all of the Show Lab breeders I know breed for temperament as #1. I would even support a Show Lab breeder way before saying these people are decent human beings, in any way, shape or form.

BcK, didn't see those numbers, but DAMN that screams puppy mill.

anyone want to go liberate some labs? (JK)

Wow, I counted 48 adult dogs, guess I missed a couple. How the Hell do they have room for how many litters and that many dogs. People like that have no heart and are very sick.

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These "breeders" sound like very irresponsible, uneducated, stupid people... I think someone needs to e-mail them...

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Someone did and the response wasn't very kind. This was his reply. There are several more e-mails and replys on the link I posted on the first page.

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Dear ???
Your letter makes several assumptions, one of which assumes if I do not post my clearances on line, I must have failed clearances, or none at all. You poor soul. I choose not to post my clearances on line. It is a simple matter of space. I do not feel that I owe it to my competition to post such clearances. I am willing to bet you that the health of my Labradors is better than any other breeder in the USA. We have our own laboratory. You have no idea what we go through and what we spend in pioneering research on hip dysplasia, retinal dysplasia, or donations to non profit organizations. Make a quick buck?? You have provided the laugh of the day.
I own JaxMax outright, and had it developed by the world’s leading canine nutritionist. The ingredients are better than the food you feed, and I do not even need to know the brand you feed to tell you that. I travel all over the world in the performance of dog food reviews. If you really want to know what’s in my food, just ask. I do not owe it to the world to post the ingredients on line, and you do not owe it to me to buy it. Our food, like all foods, has an AAFCO statement.
You do not see the guarantee on our pups? It is listed as a hyperlink on every page of our website.
My advice to you is to get a life. It is obvious from you contrived ramblings that you must be some poor housewife peddling puppies and showing them for ribbons that has nothing better to do than pick on other people. I can GUARANTEE you that through your ignorance, your dogs are not half as good as mine, and they are probably eating trash, even at $1.00 per pound. If I knew the exact food you feed, chances are I could tell you what you are really feeding. I can tell you that the raw ingredients cost of your food is not over $4.00 for 40 pounds, because that is the highest one on the market, except for JaxMax.
You probably minored in English Literature? Involved in teaching, or a law secretary? You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. It is a shame you are too close minded to learn from someone that knows much more than you ever will.
By the way, I will use my real name, which is more than I can say for you.

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:rolleyes:
What a retard. I've never heard of JaxMax, and her poor poor dogs.

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Originally Posted by Flatcoatluver

Wow, I counted 48 adult dogs, guess I missed a couple. How the Hell do they have room for how many litters and that many dogs. People like that have no heart and are very sick.

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I believe they have a kennel setup. But yes.. "family raised labs" is their slogan.