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I absolutely hate it. I totally wish more was done about it but there isn't. Did you know that 1 humongous solar panel in the mojave desert could supply the whole earth with power???? Think of the possibilities if we would only get together and try to turn things around. Use our heads. Just think!
I hate global warming and think more things need done to provent it.
I too think that we must stop pumping all those horrible gases and pollutants into our atmosphere. There are so many other ways to get energy which are clean and renewable.
Although I must say, the greenhouses gases are speeding up a change that probably would happen anyway, but at a much slower rate. For billions of years, our earth has increased in temperature gradually before plummetting into the next ige age. I think that our planet is heating up anyway, but these unnatural circumstances are causing it to happen much too quickly.
My point exactly. Very well put. we also need too educate more people. not enough people know about it. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Z
i don't know too much about it, but it definatly is kind of freaky to think that it is getting worse. :( i heard that where i live we are suppose to have the hottest summer in recorded history this year. i wouldn't doubt it! it's already getting into the 90's! :eek:
It is hot here too. This past winter we got no snow a flurry or two but that is it. This summer it is already into the 90's here two. It is scary though. Think of what would happen to all the animals who can't handle the heat :eek: . I just wish more people cared. Ignorance makes me so mad!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
We've had winters with no snow and summers with no rain. I hate it. I feel worse for farmers. Most of the main crops in WI need lots of water. We had a good two weeks of constant sprinkling in the beginning of May but we didn't get enough actual water. Its been in the 90's too here.
Oh yeah we are 2-4 inches below normal for rain fall!!!! :eek: The grass is dry and brown. Luckily last night and just a few min. ago there was a thundershower. It didn't bring much but it did bring some.
there's a girl at my school who denies it's even happening! :mad:
uuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhh Ignorance makes me so mad!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: I will find some links to sites that have more info on itQuote:
Originally Posted by Suki Wingy
Doesn't seem to be unusual weather here in London, Ontario this year. I summers are always SCORCHING and VERY humid. Our winters are always VERY COLD and lots of snow. Our very first snowfall this year brought over two feet of snow. We had snow until the end of March.
I say they just bring out that stupid hydrogen powered car that we all know they have already invented. Sell it for an affordable price. There's one problem eliminated. I mean come on if they can make an M-1 Tank run off of vegetable oil we can make cars run on water.
She also believes that giving blood and getting tattoos it is really easy to get infections and diseases and she wont listen to anything we tell her :mad: :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by shihtzulover850
More should have been done years ago goverments and retards only care about money these days and being in the lead what these ppl realy need to be thinking about is getting that polution and gases DOWN not egnoring it.
It makes me wanna slap those ppl right in the face and say wake up and smell the DAM polution!!!!
A beach that I go to every year its HUGE is actualy suposed to be flooded in 5 YEARS now thats scary for all the ppl who live there I dont even wanna go swimming any more I wanna move on the highest cliff possible so the water does not drown me from melting ice bergs. :eek:
Im shur if the HOLE city got together and stoped sleeping in reality and started voting and yelling at the goverments and factories maybe then somthen would be ******** DONE!!
I'm not the one to ask about global warming, but I think it's a huge problem for people,animals,and the envirorment. It causes alot of problems and they are really begginning to show in my area. We've had pretty much a five year drout here thanks to these problems. In NJ, *I heard* we have to have many of our crops transported from other states because of this drout. I mean I would like food from my own state rather from a different place. Many crops in my area aren't doing well at all and it's a sad thing. Many places used to buy our crops and now they don't(and can't) because of globabl warming. I even heard they may have to change the whole water system in my down beacause our water source is drying up. I hope that's not true! :eek:
Below are some links you might want to visit:
http://www.climatehotmap.org/namerica.html
This one is on biofuels:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/scie...h/2690341.html
And this one is on global warming itself:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/global-warming.htm
Be informed these are long articles. But very interesting and informative :)
On the global warming media frenzy:
http://www.denverpost.com/harsanyi/ci_3899807
No, not all scientists are convinved that global warming is a problem, or that it's even happening.
Well, even if global warming is a "hoax," do we really want to take the risk of it being real??? The principal behind the idea of global warming is real- more carbon= more heat is trapped in the atmosphere from the sun= higher temperatures. By reducing the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere we are doing no harm- so why does it matter if global warming is real or not? Planting more trees, and reducing emissions is good for everyone regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
Even a small increase in global temperature can wipe out biodiversity- a study found even increasing the temperature by 5*F can greatly reduce the amount of plant life! Maybe that columnist at the Denver Post is right, but frankly the piece sounds just as sensationalized as the global warming hype he's trying to dismiss.
Wouldn't it be better to gather the data carefully, research slowly, making sure your results are real and THEN go to the press rather than raise the alarm and then shift your arguments to fit the results as your data produces different results?
(They were using the same data set in the mid '70s to sound the alarm about the coming ice age)
yeah I agree. Either way we are destroying our planet. Whether global warming is real or not pretty soon we will face consequences for being ignorant. That is just how it is. and unfortunately too many people who have the power to turn things around just choose not to help.
Some countries are doing more than others, which is why Kyoto was such a bust. The signatory countries have all but admitted that there is no way they can meet the protocol.The biggest reasons Kyoto was a failure out of the starting block is that they set limits to low for any country to reasonably reach, there was no enforcement mechanism, and the countries that are the biggest polluters (China and India) were not required to abide by the restrictions whether they were signatories on the treaty or not.
Yes, the US uses more energy per capita than most other countries, but we also produce energy in cleaner ways than most countries, the sole exception being the old (not all, just the truly ancient) coal fired plants that were grandfathered under the clean air act. The US doesn't send brown clouds across the ocean to other countries (China and India both do), it's damned near illegal to burn lignite in the US (China's main source of coal is lignite) and chemical dumping is completely illegal in the US. Most of the current chemical pollution in the US is due to accidental spills or residue from chemical spills and dumping in earlier times when the results were not known and not monitored.
they think they have found a way to make coal cleaner. coal has become something much easier to use beause the us has such an abundance of it. it is dirty but it lessens the dependence on foreign oil.
yes I agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
The problem is not the actual burning of coal- yes, it is cleaner, but the excavation is the real problem. When coal is mined, a gas is released into streams and rivers that kills plant and wildlife. Until they can solve that problem, coal will still be a major polluter. Not to mention, coal is still a fossil fuel, that is it non renewable unlike sun or wind energy.Quote:
Originally Posted by shihtzulover850
The Kyoto agreement was a good idea- but I believe the US never even signed it? I think the UN should have more control over areas like this, and make countries culpable for pollution. Industry is obviously important in the global economy, but how long can those industries reasonably last since we do have a finite amount of resources available?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
The excavation on coal produces two byproducts. The first is mine tailings, scrap rock from the areas around coal seams which is discarded. If these tailings are improperly handled, they can affect the area around the tailing piles, but laws are in place now that require the tailings to be taken care of in an environmentally friendly manner. If it's a strip mine, the law requires that the mine be returned to the state it was in before mining began, and they usually use the tailings to restore the area to pre-mining state.
The second byproduct is the gas PC referred to. Methane has no immediate harmful effect on the areas around the mine, but is a greenhouse gas. The answer to this is to capture the methane and use it to as fuel (natural gas) or use it to produce methanol. This is currently being done in newer coal mines. Why waste a resource by letting it slip into the atmosphere?
Yes, coal is a fossil fuel, and non-renewable, but until alternatives to fossil fuels are researched and turned into commercially viable sources (in the case of wind and solar power) or allowed to be used (in the case of wind and nuclear power) we have to use something to produce energy.
One large problem with one alternative source of energy that has suddenly become the "in" alternative fuel (hydrogen) is that it takes electricity to produce. Where will that electricity come from? Another problem with it is that combustion of hydrogen yields water vapor, which is itself a powerful greenhouse gas.
Yeah that is true too! unfortunately there isn't enough backing by people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pembroke_Corgi
I didn't vote because I really haven't learned much about it.