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*edit* Okay...show of hands...how many people thought I was talking about Wedding night attire? ;) :eek: :D
I'm ordering a shirt for myself from wear-my-name.com and I'm stumped at how I should word it.
Should it say 'Mrs. Kimberly Miller' since that's going to be my name or should I go with "etiquette" and have it say 'Mrs. Andrew Miller'?
Here's a sample of the shirt with my name:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...namesample.jpg
:D
I like Kimberly better, but my beliefs are not like the average "etiquette". ;)
ditto! I personally think "Mrs. Andrew Miller" sounds 1950ish. JMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by lv4dogs
same here........Quote:
Originally Posted by lv4dogs
in mexico you dont change your last name you just add your hubbies to yours
as
Isabel Garcia de Nava (being Nava my hubbies) ("de" is like "from") but i just dont use it that way i only use my name as it is..........LOL........i´m still myself......and i dont follow etiquette either........
but i do like better the Kimberly one too!!!
I **think**, since you are known as Mrs. Andrew Miller, and, not Mrs. Kimberly Miller, if you were to write it the other way suggests you didn't know that???? I would think, "oh, oh, she doesn't know the difference..."
But, as everyone likes to say, "I look WAY too far into things...", and maybe others wouldn't even notice??? :D
I tend to notice things like that. :o
I hear ya Johanna and that's the reason for this poll.
My first thought was to put my name hence the sample, but all the examples on the site had the guys name and it made me think twice.
I mean even announcing the couple after the ceremony and at the reception it's usually: "Mr. and Mrs. Andrew Miller" and that's how the invites were done too.
Ackkk... decisions... :o :confused: :p
Stay Kimmy Smith, then you have no worries! :D
I **think** it is appropriate to be Mrs. Kimberly Smith....isn't it??
I would use Kimberly. I took my husband's last name, but I hate being referred to as Mrs. Stuart Young. It's a huge pet peeve of mine! I took only his last name, I still have a first name and my own identity!
I'd go with Kim - after all, that is your name, and the one you'll be using! Sure, it's not etiquette, but you're still gonna be your own person, and not Mrs. Andy.
Could you do
Mrs. Andrew Miller
a.k.a. (or still known as) Kimberly
established line ...
Johanna, my name isn't appropiate because I'm a naughty girl. *laughs* :D
HA!! I don't think the printers would like that. :rolleyes: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Karen
I could always run with
The Woman Formally known as Kimberly Smith but since Smith is so common (as if Miller is any better ;) ) so what the hell, I'll drop Smith and take Miller.
est. 7/1/06
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Originally Posted by Cataholic
Mom was happie with "Mr. & Mrs. Jack M" for BOTH of them, doing something together.
But I'm SURE she used "Mrs. Alice M" when she was being addressed by herself!
YOUR shirt - YOUR name!
I'd wonder > "Andrew?? Strange name for a cute GIRL!"
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MY vote is for the one with YOUR name to keep you own idenity! Most of my life I was "So&So's Mom", "So&SO's wife" and it was like I had no name of my own. One time I was introduced to someone and they were told "This is Joe and Joe's WIFE"! I was so outdone, this was the one to many times that this had happened so I smiled and said "and Joe's wife has a name, it is LAURA, so when you call me, please don't call me "Joe's wife!, call me by my OWN name"!"
He he he....
Phred- for me, and I by no means suggest 'normal' people feel this- I am JBH! Not Mrs. Man...he he he..not that I have a man I can even claim would want me to 'take his name'.
It is more than generational, perhaps at least as much professional, for me.
Kim- I think you use this time to create a whole 'nother persona!
Mrs. KIA Smilter- a wonderful blend. :p
HA! We get called Kimandy by friends quite a bit. That could work too. ;)
I know I wasn't married, but I was never called so & so girlfriend.. I always heard & this is so & so girlfriend & then they'd ask my name if they didn't know my name.. or I'd be introduced this is so & so & Jess.. or as our good friends called me The Jess & I have no idea why.. but I've always liked being called The Jess hehe
Don did not take my last name when we married so perhaps I am not allowed an opinion but.....
Mrs. Kim Miller indicates you are divorced from Mr. Miller.
You are all free to argue with this rule. I didn't make it up.
The only time I will acknowledge my husband's last name in relation to me is as Mrs. Donald Scare in some sort of formal invitation way. I am never, ever Sara Scare. (Okay....my mother-in-law send me cards with that name but for her I make an exception.... ;) ;) )
So, if I were you, Kim, and making this choice...I would go with either Mrs. Andrew Miller or Kimberly Miller (omitting the title...)
I think it's a generational thing. People told me, when I got married, that having my name as Mrs. Karen Watts would make people think I was divorced. I always sign as Karen Watts, but if I have to, I'll put Mrs. Karen Watts. Still married to him, but no one ever calls me Mrs. Paul Watts. And I still think of Mrs. Watts as my mom-in-law, I'm used to people saying Miz Watts, which is fine.
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Originally Posted by Karen
Hmmmm ... Never knew that!
LOTTA folks I know - who certainly are NOT divorced - use the
"Mrs. [Woman's First Name] [Husband's Last Name]"
and think nothing is odd.
I've never heard that this form of address indicated the woman was divorced.
Dumm me! :p
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Originally Posted by Cinder & Smoke
It has a certain logic to it....if a woman -- Jane Doe -- has changed her name when she marries....she has become Mrs. John Moe or Jane Moe. The children are Tim and Sue Moe. Now if Jane and John divorce....she is no longer Mrs. John Moe....which if he remarries could be someone else.
However....to avoid the inconvenience and expense of a name change and to have the same last name as her children (and to indicate she was married to the father of her children) she is Mrs. Jane Moe. Also this avoids confusion with the new Mrs. John Moe.
It really makes it easier for others to understand relationships quicky when a convention is followed.
You would use the Mrs. Kimberly Miller only after your husband died. When he's living you belong to him and use his name.
WOW, how very tiring. I only copied some of the 'junk'...but, for those that wonder, here it is!
Full link, here: http://www.emilypost.com/etiquette/e...of_address.htm
Situation Options/Notes
Addressing a Woman
Maiden name Ms. Jane Johnson
Miss Jane Johnson*
*usually 'Miss' is for girls under 18
Married, keeping maiden name Ms. Jane Johnson
Married, uses husband's name socially Mrs. John Kelly
Mrs. Jane Kelly*
*Nowadays this is acceptable
Ms. Jane Kelly
Separated, not divorced Mrs. John Kelly
Mrs. Jane Kelly
Ms. Jane Kelly
Divorced Mrs. Jane Kelly
Ms. Jane Kelly
Ms. Jane Johnson (maiden name)
Widowed Mrs. John Kelly*
*If you don't know the widow's preference, this is the traditional and preferred form
Mrs. Jane Kelly
Ms. Jane Kelly
Addressing a Couple
Married, she uses her husband's name socially Mr. and Mrs. John Kelly
NOTE: Traditionally, a man's name preceded a woman's on an envelope adddress, and his first and surname were not separated (Jane and John Kelly). Nowadays, the order of the names—whether his name or hers comes first—does not matter and either way is acceptable. The exception is when one member of the couple 'outranks' the other—the one with the higher rank is always listed first. (see below)
Married, she prefers Ms. Mr. John Kelly and Ms. Jane Kelly
Ms. Jane Kelly and Mr. John Kelly
*Do not link Ms. to the husband's name:
Mr. and Ms.John Kelly is incorrect
Married, informal address Jane and John Kelly
John and Jane Kelly
Married, she uses maiden name Mr. John Kelly and Ms. Jane Johnson
Ms. Jane Johnson and Mr. John Kelly
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Originally Posted by ramanth
Dummie <raises hand> :rolleyes:
>>Wedding EVENING attire<<
I figured you were looking for something "casual" to wear to the Reception!
Oooooooooh ...
You meant WAAAAAY "after" the wedding. :eek: :o
:D
Jeez...:o...this is confusing! SO confusing!!! I never knew there were so many 'rules' on this.
Personally, I know that I would 'dislike' it if someone referred to me by my husband's name. I did not change my last name...still have my maiden name and will keep it, and now I wonder what I would be addressed by. If someone addresses the two of us together, I'm fine with, "Mr. and Mrs. (husband's last name)", BUT, to call myself "Mrs. (my name) (husband's last name)" isn't right to me, because I still have my maiden name and I'm going to keep it. To call myself "Mrs. (husband's first name) (husband's last name).......wellllllllllllllllll, though I love him tremendously, I'm still ME, not HIM. We're still two seperate individuals. That is just how I feel about it. AND...I wouldn't want to be associated with a guy's first name. :D he he he...I might think people will wonder, "Why does this GIRL have a GUY'S name?" :D Being married, to me, doesn't change who I am, what family I'm from, and who my father is, so as I consider (me) still (ME!), I wanted to keep (my) name as (MY) name...without any changes. I know it is tradition to change to the husband's last name, but there are also many, many girls who don't want to change their names. After reading this thread, I am now confused. I'm not changing my last name to that of my husband, so when we are addressed to, what is the appropriate thing for people to call us?
Okay...this is going off-topic, but if you are changing your last name, I would write "Kimberly Miller" on the shirt, without the Mrs., or something cute, along with the name...to show that you and Andy are now a 'couple'. :D
The Mrs. is standard. It's there already so it can't be omitted. The printer just tells the computer what name I want and wedding date I want.
I'd hate to thumb my nose at etiquette, but I kinda like having it be my name. :o
Well PCB....do be prepared for confusion. We went to a dinner party recently at the home of someone who knows me. I introduced my husband with his first and last name, but of course she only heard his first name. She then introduced him with his first name and my last name.
I was thrown off and did not immediately correct her. Rather embarrassing but....as my husband says....I bring it on myself! :D :D Later I said something to the whole table....but it was awkward.
Must think how to handle in the future (although somehow I manage when the situation is reversed.)
I have been married close to 25 years and don't remember anyone ever addressing me as mrs. hisfirstname hislastname....ever.
I never had an idea about this cultural difference. Here even if you take the husband's name you are still Mrs. Kimberly Miller, the version Mrs. Andrew Miller just doesn't exist.
Sara:
I would avoid the whole confusion thing by saying "Hi I'm Sara and this is my husband Don" and leave it at that. Leave last names out of it. If I'm in a situation where I'm introducing someone, that's what I do. First names only. I never knew Don's last name until now. Now I know why you kept your last name...**snicker** Sorry, no insult intended, my natal sister. I see that you just want to brag that your name is a four-letter word. ;) :D
Kim: I've never been married, nor do I have any knowledge on this type of protocol. I was going to vote for just "Kimberly Miller" but you say the "Mrs." has to stay there. That being said, my choice would be "Mrs. Kimberly Miller" no matter what the rules say about that.
Oh...the delicate egos of men. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: When I do that he gets called by my last name and we can't have THAT! :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by slick
Sara, that is SO funny!!! Its pretty common hearing people 'unconciously' referring to the wife as 'Mrs. (husband's last name)', even if she hasn't changed to his name, but to have it reversed is kinda funny. :D I imagine a husband would feel embarrassed by that. Really, it is funny somehow. 'chuckles'
I wonder if this will happen to me. It will be even more confusing when I have children, as they will take their father's last name, but I've always wanted to keep my maiden name, so I'll just learn to handle the confusion. :D
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Originally Posted by Husky_mom
I really believe this is the most "civilized" way of doing it. :)
Anyway, I'd use your first name & his last name.
I agree with you Liz. I think the Spanish anming tradition is the best. I have a friend in Mexico who always said the only time she used "de" and her husband's last name was when she registered at the hospital to give birth!
I would go for Mrs Kimberly Miller, I myself have never taken my hubbys first name, although it is common practice, i much prefer to be known by my own name, but it is your call.
I like etiquette and all that, but I hate being called Mrs. Joshua Patterson if it isn't a formal occasion. On wedding invites, fine. But for birthday cards or whatever, I'm still me! Jaime! So unless you'll be wearing the shirt to a black-tie event or something, go with Kimberly Miller. :)