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You bet!
Unless your critter is the absolute perfect example of the breed it should not be bred, period! None of this 1 litter is healthy, I want my children to witness the miracle of birth nonsense.
Fix 'em early and Fix 'em often ;)
All three of my cats are neutered. Bailey won't be neutered until he is 12-18 months old. :D
All of my animals are fixed!! and that is how it should be. People breed because they want money or want to have a puppy. so what happens to all the others?? they get given away to people they dont know and are either abused, abandoned or sent to a shelter. It breaks my heart!! all of my animals have been either abandoned or rescued from a shelter. There just shouldnt be so many!!! for instance, i went to a house that had a free kitten sign. I walk in and there are just cats everywhere, litter and feces everywhere and these little kitties coveed in fleas!! all because they dont fix their animals!! people need to stop!! go to a shelter and rescue a animal before breeding!! there are plenty of great animals there that just need a home and to be loved!!
no. 4 of my dogs are fixed, Misty is intact and if the law stated that I must get her fixed, well too bad, the law also says dogs need to be licenced and I dont do that either, the law says dogs must be leashed,and I dont follow that. I am a reponsable pet owner who knows what I am capable of and what my dogs are capable of. yes there are irrisponsable pet owners, and I am sure a law like that would benifit the animals in their care, but the law does not differentiate between the responsable and the irresponsable. so no I will never support a mandatory spay/neuter law.
yes, yes, yes.
Yes, there are responsible owners out there, and a few bad apples ruin it for everyone, and yes Jamie is still intact, but think about it. If there were laws out there that stated you MUST spay/neuter your pets, they would HAVE to create even more programs that did low cost spay/neuter, or even FREE for low income families. I know there are already some in existance but they would have to create an even better program. How would that be a bad thing? I am a responsible pet owner as well, and if you are, then you should already be following the cardinal "rules" of pet ownership, whether they were laws or not.
Yes, and I think there should be a limit for breeders on how many pups they can have, why should they be priviledged enough to get to add to the overpopulation?
I have ALWAYS said that they should make it a law that unless you are a certified breeder, all animals should be fixed. There are FAR too many unwanted animals out there.
I agree BUT there must be extensive research done on the pets & owners alike. Some quick examples, Responsible owners would be allowed 2 years to spay/neuter their pets UNLESS the animal has a chance at improving the breed standards then the breeder would also need to be contaced. ALL pets MUST be examined by a vet to ensure no medical issues will interfere with the anesthesia. Etc...
I doubt my way would ever become a law, it's too involved for the state/county/government/etc... whoever would enforce it.
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Originally Posted by lv4dogs
I fully agree with this...:)
A cat could have 90 or more kittens in that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by lv4dogs
LA County is trying to pass laws about spaying/neutering- all unaltered dogs must have a permit- and they can only get a permit if they are active in showing, agilty, etc. or part of an AKC, etc approved breeding program. I think it is somewhat a good idea, BUT it needs to be carefully thought through about what the future of dogs will become. I love my mutts, and the thought of there never being more mutts and breeders charging even more outrageous prices for dogs- there are going to be a lot of people who will never experience the joy of having a dog. When drastic measures are taken, drastic changes occur- and usually goes a lot further than hoped. Laws like this can help, yes- but they can also do a lot of harm.
lv4dogs summerized it well, I say no way because the government would never enforce something that extensive, I would agree IF the law could possably get very extensive about who and what dogs, that will never happen therefore I do not agree to mandatory spay neuter, they have no way of determining who is responsable and who is not, the responable people who care about the law will follow it, the resposable people who dont care about the law wont follow it and still wont add to the problem and the irrisponsable people wont follow it regardless.
I dont agree with that LA county thing, it would completly exterminate working bred dogs.
Yes, if there was a way to get everyone to follow the law or at least be responsible.
I think their should be a Breeding Registry, where your dog has to pass all health tests for that breed and have three refernces from 3 different people who already have registered dogs and maybe a judge too that the dog should be bred in order to be registered. Breeding would only be legal when two registered dogs of the same breed were bred.
Working dog should be registered with a working registration, and if not, then not bred.
The law whould have to be very very detaled but there should be something done to stop over population whatever there doing know is not working very well.
YES!! If you show your dogs regularly and are a reputable breeder, that would be an exception. That law would be nearly impossible to inforce though. :(
Given the literally millions of pages of Federal law, and the hundreds of thousands of pages that each state has, how could it be enforced? Which resources would you divert to do so?
In South Carolina, every cat or dog that is brought to a shelter of any kind for any reason (including lost) must be spayed/neutered before leaving. Proof that the animal is a registered breed animal is the only exception.
I'd have to say no... And, not because I don't think there are too many un-wanted animals out there, and WAY too many byb's, but to the fact that I show my dogs; and fully intend on breeding them in the future. And I wouldn't like a law telling me I couldn't, when I've done all the hard work; testing that needs to be done to improve the breed. If there were a way to distinguish the BAD breeders from the GOOD breeders, then I'd be all for it. But for there to be some 'blanket law' that says EVERYONE must neuter/spay their animals, then no, I wouldn't support it.
Well that would be part of the law I would imagine, would be having to have a license to breed etc, so I don't think that would apply ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by PinkSunshine
Well, sort of yes, and sort of no. I think all dogs should be neautered but there should be a law that a breeder has to have some kind of certifacate to be able to breed dogs, and only purebred, registered, or champion dogs.
YES! YES! YES! there should be a law saying you HAVE to spay/neuter your dogs unless they are show dogs.
you bet I do! unless there is a health problem..they should be fixed.
Yes I think that proper breed specimens should have a breeding liscense or something and if someone is caught breeding two dogs to make a mutt then 2000 fine and if they breed to pures to make a mutt 1000 and if they breed two dogs that are both th same breed but dont meet the standard then they will be fined 700 thats what I would like to see. So if someone was selling pups in the paper or something then like the spca (or a company dedicated to this) would go down and make them show their lisence which should be just like a drivers lisence.
That sounds like a great idea buttercup, and I agree in part. The only problems are working dogs and HOW do you specify if a dog "meets the standard" or not. That could be rather vauge and cause problems in the systems.
Entirely true. What constitutes a "breeding worthy" dog to a show breeder would not even pass the rigid standards of a working breeder. If you enforce a spay/neuter law, it could create even more problems with large-scale breeders since they would be exempt from the law if they obtain a kennel/USDA license. If such a law existed, it would be abused and I doubt the government would take time to enforce this law. They barely have half a mind to enforce a fine for dog licenses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suki Wingy
That's a very easy problem to fix. A BYB can enter their dog in one show and, from what you're suggesting, they will then be exempt from the law. It'd be nice to enforce a law that *encourages* spaying and neutering (deductions from taxes ;), enforcing the licensing fee but granting deductions from the licensing fee, etc.), but I don't think it is reasonable to enforce a law that states you MUST spay/neuter. I would not be in favor of a law so black and white. But when you have gray areas, you have more conflicts, more issues, more exceptions, more rules, more confusion, etc. No, I don't think there should be a law on fixing pets.Quote:
YES! YES! YES! there should be a law saying you HAVE to spay/neuter your dogs unless they are show dogs.
I don't think a large-scale spay/neuter enforcement would work, at all.
I do think fining people, educating people, offering tons more free speuter programs, and more stray animal control - would help a LOT! If people are required to pay a large amount (the amount put into the SPCA/animal control) to acquire a breeding license, and are limited on how many litters per year each household/owner is allowed to produce, it would make people think before breeding!! It should also be made illegal to not bring a pregnant bitch in for exams before and after pregnancy. Of course lots of BYB's will slip through the cracks, but anything would be better than how it is now, a free-for-all for of animal overpopulation.
I'm honestly shocked that this has not happened before now. The gov spends millons euthanizing homeless animals and caring for abused/abandoned animals. It seems like they do everything else to save money - they need to do something to help the animals!
There's signs around the city now that say "SPAY/NEUTER now or PAY later!" And says a bunch of stuff.. I'm guessing it's a law here.
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Originally Posted by Suki Wingy
Great point, that would be a must for all dogs allowed to remain intact and to be breed.
Snuggles is spayed