http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6743208
Maybe Michael Vick IS the same as his punk brother. He just hides it better, evidently.
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6743208
Maybe Michael Vick IS the same as his punk brother. He just hides it better, evidently.
Oh, that makes me so angry! It really doesn't surprise me, they bet HUGE amounts of money on dog fights. It makes me sick. If he is guilty of dog fighting I hope they throw him in jail and kick his sorry butt off the team. I doubt that happens though, money talks bull sh** walks as they say.
The ESPN story about Vick also had a reference to another player on the Falcons who was arrested for the fatal beating of a dog.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2850545
Maybe the NFL needs to have a chat with the Falcons owners.
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Originally Posted by Lady's Human
Good grief, how sad. I agree, the NFL needs to have a chat with the owners. I will never understand how anyone can watch dogs tear each other apart. Did you know pit bull fights can go on for as long as 45 minutes? Those poor dogs do not deserve that.
Let the humans bet each other to a pulp and place bets on who will win!
With all the criminals on the Baltimore Ravens team, the NFL will do nothing about this either.
What a sorry excuse for a human being...a piece of trash. It's sad that these athletes are put on pedestals for our kids to admire.
Yep....real sicko stuff.
Where I used to live in the Blue Mountains a few years ago, a lot of dogs went missing from their homes......the police found out that a dogfighting ring was involved, and had sent people out to steal dogs to be used as bait in the dogfights. What was happening was they would put these family pets into a cage with a fighting dog to be ripped apart, so that the fighting dog was suitably angered and ready for a real fight with an opponent dog.
By the time the investigation was fully underway, that dogfighting ring just disappeared, simply relocated elsewhere.
Evidently there is big money involved.....that's why they do it.
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Jeez, the Oakland Radiers are getting soft... :rolleyes:
What ticks me off is that they will arrest everyone around the AH, but the AH goes unpunished...
My mom owns another home that she rents.
Now, is the same thing happened to her, the locals and feds would be up her arse and have the property seized.
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Nohting will happen to Vick. He'll be fined and spoken to.
The Falcons willl never punch their meal ticket.
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And watch all the MV jersey sales go up.. :rolleyes:
Looks like the plot thickens (Or sickens, as the case may be)
Evidently there are witnesses who can place Vick at the house during dog fighting.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2871625
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2878099
Mr Portis needs to buy a clue. He has enough money, he just needs a brain to go with it.
LH, the first link (Fox) doesn't work, but I read all the later ones. These
goons don't have a friggin clue. They don't see a problem with dog fighting.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...io.ap/?cnn=yes
I think his brain has slowly been turned to mush by all the hits he's taken in his mediocre career. he's been a total failure with the redskins. he needs to keep his mouth shut.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
And yes, I'm going to keep hammering this as these stories come up.
Evidently (from other stories) dogfighting is seen as ok in the NFL. If I could find an Email address for Roger Goodell (NFL Commish) I'd post it, but there are no league office emails that I can find. There is a snail mail address for Mr. Goodell on the nfl.com home page.
All brawns....no brains. :mad:
Richard, if you happen to find an email address, please let us know.
It's just so sad that people fight their dogs - and I read about the interview with Portis, who seems to think it's ok and should be allowed. Hey, if you own the dog you should be allowed to do whatever you want with it :mad: :(
I saw the interview with POrtis...He was giggling and acting like the AH he must be.
Talk about getting a clue?
I do not think so.
http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/s...d.php?t=199264
From the Washington Redskins 'fan' site.
Morons, one and all.
What a bunch of losers.
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I was tempted to sign on and tie one hand behind my back, but why waste the time?
Portis' time will come.......The commish seems to be taking his job seriously-I expect to see some kind of response from the office.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2884063
More from ESPN on Vick and Dogfighting.......
wow. This is kinda intense, but espn did an interview with a police informant who places vick at the fights. the video is really interesting.
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/...h_c1_r1_mvideo
Apparently ESPN did more reporting last night....
THey also showed a real dog fight with a disclaimer before that clip...
This morning Eric G (the NASCAR TODAY commentator) was filliing in for Dan Patrick and he commented on how it may have been too much to show that clip.
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He also gave his opinion about what should be Vick's punishment....
Suspension w/pay for one year.
Then let the NFL players union try to defend it...
Interesting....
He also took two calls defending dogfighting.
Both from the southeast and both on Vick's side.
One caller compared DFing to UFC/MMA or boxing.
The other said that those dogs were "BRED TO FIGHT"
Effing morons.`
Clinton Portis is an A$$!!
"I don't know if he was fighting dogs or not," Portis said. "But it's his property; it's his dogs. If that's what he wants to do, do it."
What an uneducated piece of crap!!
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HELL NO showing a dog fight on TV is NOT going to far, or showing too much...maybe people will see it and finally realize how horrible it is!
I didn't see the clip, and I'm glad I didn't... but I hope that clip opened the eyes of some of these stupid STUPID people.
IDIOTS!! :mad: I'm so angry that I cant see straight. First off, pit bulls were NOT bred to fight each other. The damn human race started that. Its so much about the *money* when it comes to dog fights. As I posted earlier they bet up to 65 thousand dollars on these fights. I'm so mad that I'm at a loss for words. I agree with everything you said Angie.
Amen Richard. Effing morons.` is right!
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6876192
A REALLY creative column from a sportswriter's dog.
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I'd like to see MV come back as someone's lower leg/calf..... :D :eek: :cool:
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Oh that was good!!
that was cool. nice and edgy but oh so true :)
Loved this! For society's sake, shouldn't Michael Vick be neutered?
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6890316
so that's clinton portis' latest mea culpa. For whatever reason I don't think its that sincere....I think he is trying to get people to just leave him alone. the guy is a tool
Federal law enforcement agencies now investigating Vick:
Feds take over investigation
I am always clinically amused when I see a "statement" from someone who has their head so far up their rear in the first place..
Common sense would tell you that siding with an AH like Vick will get you into trouble.
Two,
Aside from Pat Haden back in the day, THere are about two current FB players who could write, edit and punctuate an eloquent statement like that.
"I's gots to make a release to get those dog people off my back."
I would love a gig writing lame excuses for famous AHs...
Three,
To release a statement like that is a slap in the face of the people who are following the story,
Four,
I wonder what a PETA wacko looks like at your front door at three A.M.!
Five,
I can guarantee you that there are at least three Dog Loving Defensive Players that ran to look at the '07 schedule after they heard CPs original statement.
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This gives me more reasons to root against the Redskins this year.
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Suspension w/pay for one year
Suspension WITH pay??? Oh PUHLEEEEZE!!!
That's like punishing a kid by sending him to his room with tv, phone, gameboy, computer. Real harsh...NOT!!!!!
And the genius that said pitpulls are bred to fight has his head up his butt!!
Idiots!! :mad:
The reason suspension with pay for one year would be in reality a harsh punishment for Vick is that he couldn't realistically challenge it.
In addition, his FB skills would rust, as he couldn't play or practice, he would be out of the spotlight, and it is highly doubtful that his FB career would ever recover.
Whooo!!!! :D :cool: Thanks for the update!
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Thanks for the update. I hope this guy gets some serious a** kicking
for this whole thing.
Nice to see the Feds doing something right. :D
This is really long and I didn't even read all of it, but I figured this was appropriate for those who are interested :D
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Feds return to Vick's property
Agents investigating dog fighting search QB's home
Posted: Friday July 6, 2007 11:58AM; Updated: Friday July 6, 2007 9:12PM
SURRY, Va. (AP) -- A property owned by Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick was used as the "main staging area for housing and training the pit bulls involved" in an alleged dogfighting operation, according to court documents.
The papers, filed by federal authorities, give details for the first time about what authorities contend was a long-running dogfighting venture. Vick is not named in the documents.
On Friday, federal agents searched the property for a second time, using a backhoe to dig in an area about 10 feet wide by 20 feet wide. They finished their work at about 4:30 p.m. and declined to answer reporters' questions as they left.
The documents filed Monday in U.S. District Court in Richmond and obtained Friday by The Associated Press contain the address of the Vick property that has been at the center of the investigation.
According to the documents, dog fights have been sponsored by "Bad Newz Kennels" at the property since at least 2002. For the events, participants and dogs traveled from South Carolina, North Carolina, Maryland, New York, Texas and other states.
Members of the venture also knowingly transported, delivered and received dogs for animal fighting, the documents state.
Fifty-four pit bulls were recovered from the property during searches in April, along with a "rape stand," used to hold dogs in place for mating; an electric treadmill modified for dogs; and a bloodied piece of carpeting, the documents said.
The documents said the fights usually occurred late at night or in the early morning and would last several hours. The winning dog would win from "100's up to 1,000's of dollars," and participants and spectators also bet on the dogfights.
Before fights, the participating dogs of the same sex would be weighed and bathed, according to the filings. Opposing dogs would be washed to remove any poison or narcotic placed on the dog's coat that could affect the other dog's performance. Sometimes participants would not feed a dog before the fight to "make it more hungry for the other dog," the documents said.
Fights would end when one dog died or with the surrender of the losing dog, which was sometimes put to death by drowning, strangulation, hanging, gun shot, electrocution or some other method, according to the documents. The property has an aboveground swimming pool, and investigators were seen looking into the pool Friday.
During a June search of the property, investigators uncovered the graves of seven pit bulls that were killed by members of "Bad Newz Kennels" following sessions to test whether the dogs would be good fighters, the documents said.
Members of "Bad Newz Kennels" also sponsored and exhibited fights in other parts of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Maryland, New Jersey and other states, the filings said.
On Vick's Web site, he lists his birthplace as Newport News, Va., "a.k.a. BadNews."
Friday, federal agents used shovels and heavy equipment to search the Vick property, where an informant told authorities as many as 30 dogs could be buried.
A backhoe-front loader was brought in and used to excavate a cleared area on the property. The material found to be of interest was transferred into numerous large, ice-filled coolers and loaded into a rental truck, which left the property.
Some of the investigators wore T-shirts reading: "Federal Agent USDA-OIG."
An Associated Press reporter and photographer viewing the investigation from a helicopter could not clearly identify the evidence being collected.
Investigators were digging in an area about 50 yards behind the large white house on the property. About 15 people could be seen on the property, which includes several kennels surrounded by pens made of metal fencing, other kennels and outbuildings.
Located in southeast Virginia, the expansive property has a metal gate at the entrance and a white plastic fence around the perimeter. The fence and a large two-story building painted black behind the home obscured the work of investigators.
More than 15 vehicles were on the property, including the rental truck and at least one Virginia State Police evidence collection truck.
Corinne Geller, a spokeswoman for the Virginia State Police, said state authorities were working with federal investigators in an "assistance capacity."
Vick has said he rarely visited the property. No charges have been filed.
During an April 25 raid at the property, about half the dogs were tethered to car axles with heavy chains that allowed them to get close to each other, but not to have contact, an arrangement typical for fighting dogs, according to an affidavit.
Later, Surry County officials secured a search warrant based on an informant's information about dogs being buried on the property, but never acted on it because prosecutor Gerald G. Poindexter said he had concerns with the wording of the document.
On June 7, the day that warrant expired, federal officials executed their own with the help of state police investigators.
Poindexter publicly questioned the federal government's interest in a dogfighting case. He suggested Vick's celebrity was the draw and raised race as a possible motivation. Poindexter and Vick are black, as is Sheriff Harold Brown.
Poindexter, on vacation in Louisiana, said by telephone he was unaware of Friday's search and was still pursuing what he called a parallel investigation. He said he assumed Surry County and federal officials eventually will share their evidence.
Vick initially said he had no idea the property might have been used in a criminal enterprise and blamed family members for taking advantage of his generosity. He also put the house up for sale and reportedly sold it quickly, although there is no record that the sale has closed. Vick has since declined to talk about the investigation.
Thank you for the update.