http://chzparentingfails.files.wordp...ry-problem.jpg
(Reference is to the Red Green TV show, where he created and fixed practically everything with duct tape).
http://chzparentingfails.files.wordp...ry-problem.jpg
(Reference is to the Red Green TV show, where he created and fixed practically everything with duct tape).
And this hasn't been reported as child abuse - yet??? Maybe it's supposed to be funny, but what message does that send? It could give a lot of slightly unbalanced people an idea they never thought of. I've actually seen cases reported where mothers (or others), have actually used duct tape in similar situations on children. :mad:
I agree. Not funny at all. I wasn't going to post a response until I saw yours. I thought the exact thing...copy cat people will do this to their kid. We have so many cases of child abuse in our news lately I just do not understand. Parents are becoming less and less interested in their children and they also seem to not have a clue as to how to raise them. :(
I am not as offended as the other two posting folks. I find the photo a bit odd but a tad funny. I think they are guilty of bad taste though. I would not post this in a public area.
Not many people would consider doing this to a child, but many a parent would like to have their child stay putt by any means.
If anyone with a child is persuaded to do this simply by this photo, then they shouldn't have a child.
I love kids just as much as the next guy.
The baby in the photo does not look distressed and does not look abused. I think these folks were trying to be funny. Failed.
Yes - I know someone was trying to be funny, but seeing any human or animal depicted in a situation that could be considered cruel or abusive, is offensive to me. There's enough cruelty/abuse in the real world without making jokes about it. JMHO of course. :(
I don't know how many times I've threatened to do just that to the kids.
The difference between the pic and how many parents treat kids is what exactly? There's no difference between that and sticking them in front of the TV in their swing.
I don't understand what is cruel or abusive about this? stupid? yeah lol cruel? I don't think so. it looks like they were very careful to make sure none of the tape was touching any exposed skin, the child looks like they are sitting just as they would in many of the back packs and front carriers parents wear them in and doesn't seem to be uncomfortable. What is the risk to the child? What is the abuse exactly? What about it is cruel? stupid, yes, not a bright idea, absolutely... but child abuse? I don't think so.
I wouldn't say there's NO difference, but I do pretty much agree with this statement. ;) So many people think nothing of leaving a child strapped in a seat or high chair for hours in front of a TV, and that's more abusive (even if it's not physically) than this silliness.
Now, if they left this baby in this situation for longer than the few minutes it took them to do it and photograph it, I'd be bothered. Not saying they did or didn't, because obviously, there's no way to know how long the child was taped to the wall. She looks completely content here. As does her duck pal.
I'm not making fun of those who think this is cruel, nor am i making light of child abuse (including the situations where the parent has used duct tape to harm a child), everyone has different senses of humor, different thresholds for what's offensive and not. I am personally not offended by it.
There are stupid people everywhere, and I have seen in the news, stories of parents who put duct tape over a child's mouth, etc., and then posted pictures on the Internet, and were justly prosecuted.
But this photo looks pretty carefully done, and maybe when the child grows up, she'll be one of the girls who makes her prom dress out of duct tape - there's a competition for that every year!
Its kind of funny, but, I hope they brought the kid down soon. :)
I don't think it's cruel either. But it's not a very bright idea to post it on the internet for everyone to see either.
Let's put it this way...have you ever tried to unstick anything that you have duct taped? It is not easy. What was the baby doing the whole time these idiots were doing this to the child?
It is very different than putting a child in a back pack or front carrier because you just slip the child into the carrier. It would take quite some time to tear off all of that duct tape and get a child that size to stay stuck to the wall.
I honestly cannot believe the mentality, or lack thereof, of parents these days.
I work on machinery for a living, I have used duct tape for many applications. It would take no more than a couple minutes to do what is depicted.
It's easy to remove quickly. Looking at the way this was done, it looks as if they had a pouch set up on the wall. Four quick slices with a knife and the kids is free.
Much ado about nothing, and frankly, the child doesn't look upset at all.
Actually, I've never had much trouble removing duct tape off anything. And as said, the baby doesnt look distressed or harmed in anyway. The parents at least made it just like those pouches. I'm not saying I would do it, heck I would never do it. It's stupid and it can get you into legal trouble if the wrong crowd sees it. It is a little distasteful but it truthfully can't be defined as cruel. I've seen much worse pictures on the Internet.
It appears that the point I was trying to make, went over everybody's head, with the exception of happylabs'.
I was only trying to say that this is a wrong message to be sending and posting on the web. And IMO - it does IMPLY cruelty/abuse. I presume that most folks here understand the meaning of IMPLY. :rolleyes: No question in my mind that this particular child wasn't harmed, however, being that there are so many copycats out there, it could give them ideas, whether it be done as a "funny", or as punishment (or whatever).
And maybe I missed the concept of "Pet Talk" somewhere in my travels too. Do we really need to be posting things such as this on a pet forum?
Yes, sadly, your point was missed by most.
If you want to see something really scary, google "duct tape baby". There have been other parents who have done this sort of thing and been charged and jailed.
Since this involves duct tape and a baby, it probably belongs in a handyman forum or a parenting one.
I did not miss her point, I simply did not agree with it! As I said, there will always be stupid people out there, and thankfully, those who have used duct tape for actual abuse have been prosecuted, at least the ones that made the news.
And "General" is for non-pet-related stuff, including parenting!
What your saying sorta makes me think of the same idea of kids watching violence on TV makes them violent. I think those kids would be violent regardless of TV, and same with anyone who sees this image. If they're going to be cruel to their child they'll do it regardless of things they see on the net. If it's not this, it's something else.
If seeing that image posted on the web is going to make you do something, please, just surrender your children to the proper authorities or don't have them to begin with. For that matter, please try not to play with sharp knives, and don't turn your television to anything other than ......well, wait, even PBS shows suggestive content. Nevermind, just don't turn it on.
Well shut my mouth! So sorry to live in the land of reality. I'll remember in the future to not make waves here. :rolleyes:
As Richard says:
DONE!
(almost)
I didn't mean to offend anyone, truthfully I didn't. I won't apologize for having a different opinion then anyone. I didn't miss anyone's point, I read all the posts thoroughly. I just didn't agree with it. I agree it is stupid, it's really really stupid, but I don't think it implies cruelty. I don't have anything against anyone else's opinion. There's no reason to get mad, really there isn't. We were simply disagreeing, not bashing.
I don't believe I said that, but please correct me if I'm wrong. Everyone has an opinion - just as everyone has an %$##%$&@##. Well - you know the end to that, don't you? And don't you know that things aren't always what they seem??? Please don't twist my words into meanings that were never stated. :mad: I stated my views, but NEVER said that other people's were wrong, and I did say IMO/JMHO in more than one post on this subject.
Hey, it's okay to disagree. After all, we all agree that our pets are important, and that's the one thing we all have in common. Everything else we can disagree about, as long as we remain civil!
Thank you, and let me apologize for being so snippy. It was not my intention to argue with anyone, however you just pushed the wrong button. I have very deep-seated reasons why I see red when anyone says I said/did something that I didn't say/do, and it stems back to my childhood. Some things I guess we can never let go of completely, and that's one of them for me. :(
No need to apologize-the reason I didn't post about that picture is that I also have deep-seated reasons for seeing red at a such a distasteful picture, if nothing else it shows a lack of intelligent judgement for someone to even think of doing something as stupid as this and finding it funny. You'd better believe how many morons will get ideas from seeing this.
I perhaps could have been clearer - this pic was posted on a Cheezburger site called "Parenting Fails". In that context I found it amusing because I knew it was not to be taken seriously - and the site managers would have contact info for the posters if they had concerns. If it was posted in another context, I too would wonder!
yes I too understood what previous posters meant... I just don't agree :)
and that's A OK
I don't think this photo is going to create child abuse. the people who are going to abuse their kids are already doing it... I highly doubt anyone is going to stumble upon that photo and be like "HEY this would be a great way to abuse my kids.". Will some idiot see it and maybe think to try it? it's possible but I still don't see it causing any real harm to any real children.
I am also not a fan of punishing people because other people are stupid lol. I'm not going to not do something because someone who is stupid might see it and do it incorrectly. I think we should take all the warnings off labels and let the "stupid people" problem take care of itself rather than trying to protect these people from themselves lol.
On a serious note though... I just don't see this photo causing any future abuse of other children. abusers will abuse... no photo is going to make or break that
No point so far made has gone over my head. Just an FYI to anyone who thought differently. ;)
Never, ever underestimate the stupidity of people. This was in my home town this past weekend, and it references another dumb act involving painter's tape.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...r-in-dog-cage/
Good grief...I guess I can rest my case also. This is besides some of the other horrors happening every day.
Just ban the product. After all, its existence it the real cause of these stories.
No tape, no child abuse!
That case also involves a dog cage - those must also be banned and people who have posted "cute" photos of their kid climbing in the dog cage held accountable!
And he threatened to use electricity - so that should be banned too?
Political correctness (and censorship) take many forms.