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Well to be fair, noone HAS to donate , if they do so they do so out of their goodness of their heart. The lady that wanted to do the work at her clinic was more then generous but realistically if she could do that, she would have the funds to just get it done herself where she is. So, I think to question her motives is a little unfair. Also, I would not want to send my pet away from me out of state to have it done either, out of county maybe, out of state , no.
Bri - what will you and Suki Wingy be selling? That sounds interesting. Is it some of your POTC stuff, and other things? I know that might sound awful - but if it is worth a fair bit, then you wouldn't have to sell all of it, maybe just a few pieces.
And if you don't mind me posting...Bri has an application form for the low cost spay and neuter in her city. Thing is, it's doubtful they would accept a form from someone her age. Bri - do you think your mom would sign it?
I've emailed the S&N clinic anyway. Their prices are good, and they take PayPal for adoptions.
I've been away - so just want to confirm if there are enough funds for Gizzy, and if her appointment has been made. If Giz can be taken care of, then the rest is not so overwhelming.
I commend Bri for trying to do something to make some of the money.
I've confirmed with Linda the last two times that I called that there is only $60.00 so far. ONE check. That is yours. The others must be in transit, but I don't count money before it's actually received.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catty1
Erm, not sure what we're going to sell. I know she said she was working on a Pit Bull design and I put some of my artwork on a Pirate shirt.
I'm calling tomorrow to get more information from Robinson's, and I don't know if my mom will sign the form or not.
Have you never forged your mom's siggy?! LOL!
I was queen of that one in high school. Academic failure notices? If i couldn't do it good enough we paid the one girl at roller skating to do it for us for $2.00
To me, you do what you gotta do to get it done. If mom doesn't ask what was required, then just sign the form for her and let it go at that. Not the best way to go, but if it came to that, I'd do it so it could get done.
lmao.Quote:
Originally Posted by jenn_librarian
I forged it once in Kindergarten :o. I did a pretty decent job too. My teacher didn't notice.
I'll get her to sign the form somehow. If we go in the option of that clinic.
Wow, I cannot believe you just gave that advise to a 14 year old.Quote:
Originally Posted by jenn_librarian
Neither can I. Talk about contributing to the delinquency . . . . . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Ginger's Mom
I give up :rolleyes:Quote:
I don't think being called rude is helpful, but okay then.
I've avoided this thread as much as possible, but seeing as everyone else has weighed in with their preaching and proclaiming, I thought I might as well say what's on my mind.
Briana is my friend, and I will stand by her decisions and her actions. Her situation isn't perfect, no. Her mum is far from perfect. Maybe even her attitude is far from perfect, but she's the teenager here. Not that it makes it alright to kick up a stir, but many of you here are sensible adults and know better than to toss the emotions of someone not yet entirely self sufficient. You know, I've tallied up the amount of these :rolleyes: from either side of the arguement, and well, take an educated guess which 'side' scored higher.
For those still perhaps unsure, it wasn't Bri.
Yes maybe this girl needs telling what to do and what not to, but there's a way of getting your point across fairly. She's had history on these boards, yes, and do you know how close she's been to leaving PT every time? I'm sorry to be frank, but a lot of you people don't know the half of it. I myself don't know all of it, but from what I do know I can conclude that I can picture myself in a similar situation, taking similar action.
Bri, I know you have had this hammered into your skull over and over by less compassionate methods, but you know that those who are helping you here are doing the best they can purely out of the good of their hearts. If they say jump, you say how high, OK? I know you can put all your effort into this, and I think the cafe press is a great idea.
I am sorry that I can offer nothing but well wishes for you and Gizzie, I wish I could help in some other way.
And as for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie
You are a hypocrite and have one heck of a big nerve. I've yet to see you try and do anything for your pets unless PT gets on your back. Bri's using her initiative and has addressed the problem, perhaps not according to everyone's standards, but at least she's doing something. If I was you I'd have never weighed in and pointed the finger in a topic such as this.
I got tired of reading this saga at page 14. Of understand BOTH sides of the debate (amazing, huh? ;))
First, let me shed some light on mom's feelings, since I was there last year. She is most likely feeling that they are constantly having their electricity cut off and rent late and no food on the table.... yet her daughter is harassing her about vet care. I myself would explode on my kids too if they were asking for money I just didn't have, even if they needed the money for a valid reason! There are priorities she has a mother, first being provide basic needs of shelter and food. It sounds like mom is having a very hard time of providing those basics right now. I am certainly not condemning because I was there! I've been employed for 6 months now and only now catching up with bills - and thats only basic bills (with a few Pouncer emergencies tossed in ;)) I know exactly how overwhelmed mom is feeling. I also think its quite possible that this donation thing is insulting her and making her feel like she's a total failure because her daughter is now accepting donations from complete strangers. Think about it: her attitude towards this has been bad. It could be because she's hurt and ashamed that people are doing something for her daughter that she cannot do herself.
Oh, and speaking of Pouncer.... if he got sick BEFORE I got a job? I don't want to think of what might have happened. Truthfully, I'd have gotten the rescue to take him back and pay for him. I'm sure they'd give him back to me and them I'd repay them $10 at a time for a looong time. But Bri obviously doesn't have that luxury.
I would write more on my wonderful opinions but I have to go to the hospital for blood tests (ugh)
Miss Z -as much as I applaud and admire the defence of your friend we are not mind readers so we can only respond and react to how we are treated on the board ourselves. It isn't all one sided you know.
Granted we may have been too "forceful" with some advice and opinions and there are some who are here simply to stir things up, but the majority of the posts are out of genuine concern for Bri and her situation.
How is Gizzy, by the way. She seems to have been forgotten in all this
Ok, sometimes you really need to read into sarcasm. That's the problem with a forum where you write things.. you never know whether things are being said tongue in cheek.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
Basically we want her to get the form signed. If mom has to drive her there, I'm sure seeing the form and a signature that isn't hers would be a tip off about things, so it's not like it's something doable.
Maybe you also need to get off your high horses unless you're perfect and have never done anything like that... we're talking high school/middle school stuff. Gimme a break. I'm telling her to go get an abortion, which would be contributing to delinquency.
Please re-read the last line of your post that I quoted above. That was not sarcasm or tongue in cheek. That was advising a teenage girl to do whatever she needs to do to get her way (or in this case your way). I would not go so far as to say you are contributing to the delinquency of a minor, but you are certainly contributing to the tension, uncertainty, and lack of funds to pay the bills in the house. I am not sure why it is so important to you ladies that the animals stay in a home where they are making life difficult for the people, and where the animals well-being is neglected. At this point you really aren't helping anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by jenn_librarian
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Originally Posted by shais_mom
Yeah, but, ONLY if you like re-runs. This isn't even last season's news. This is like watching THREE seasons ago news.
Gizzy. Gizzy. Gizzy. The Animals. Please, Folks.
Let's get the pets helped, please, and get them to a clinic.
Bri's mom - those of us who are helping are doing it from our hearts. If you are feeling bad, please don't. We help one another here all the time, because we do care.
I had hard times for a long time...and then one day, I was able to pay it forward, which I am doing now.
Take care.
I didn't think of this before, but this link may be helpful. It's low cost vax that travel to Petcos. They have helped me when money got tight and it was vet time.
I am just shocked, and left speechless by this whole thread. To be honest, this whole thing is beyond my understanding. I cannot understand Bri's attitude, but more than anything, I am shocked at the advice some of the PT'ers are giving her.
"Leave your mother"
"Forge a signature for your mother"
Something must be seriously WRONG with some of you people.
A mother, who carried her child in her womb for 9 months, fed her from her own body when she was a baby, raised her, cared for her, fed her, her entire LIFE, has FAR MORE rights over her CHILD, than anyone else on the planet. How could you possibly tell a daughter to leave her MOTHER over a PET?!?! My gosh! Now I bet some of you would gladly choose a pet over a family member, but unless a family is abusive, I cannot imagine taking such a path. She is her MOTHER! Can any of the mothers here with young children IMAGINE that 10 years from now, perhaps there will be people out there advising your child to leave you. Sheesh. Every child has conflicts with his/her parents sometimes. If they go and tell others, that means those other 'elders' should advise them to leave their parents? :rolleyes: Just imagine... I KNOW the mothers here would have a hard time even thinking about someone adivising their kid with such nonsense.
And to THINK Bri's mother would want money from people like that? I know for a fact that if I were in her mother's shoes, I would be furious about her asking for money from strangers off the internet. There are so many unseen dangers on the net, and teens often don't see them. I know that PT, in general, is a rather safe site, but parents have their very valid concerns.
As to forging a signature, that is encouraging a teenager to lie, cheat, and giving her the 'message' that breaking the law like that is okay. :eek:
Sad, very sad. I wasn't going to comment here, but after reading that statement, I just couldn't take it anymore. I don't understand why some people on PT NEED to interfere with her life SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much. She's 14 years old. Sometimes young people tend to make decisions without thinking, or can't understand WHY their parents make certain rules. That doesn't mean WE, strangers on the internet, need to do these things without talking to her MOTHER. She's a minor, not an adult, and her mom is responsible for her, AND, she has her own life in Tennessee, with her own pets, her own family. If I have a kid someday who goes online to ask for money during times of financial difficulty, you can be sure that not only would that kid NOT get that help, but that kid would have all internet rights taken from him/her. Why? If the child can't respect ME enough for raising him/her by asking me if this was okay to do first, then the child WOULD have to face consequences.
If Bri's mom is having financial difficulties, and her pets are healthy and not sick, her first priorities would be to pay rent, get food on the table, feed her kid, feed the animals, pay the bills. No one wants to accept money from strangers unless they're in a situation where they cannot even afford to have food on their table.
I just can't stand it when people turn kids away from their parents, rather than try to get them to understand them, and explain to them that no one is perfect, and no one's parents are perfect either, but they should respect their parents for all they have done for them.
Remember, there are people in this world who have no shelter. There are children in this world who's parents cannot afford medical care. There are people out there with serious illnesses, and no one to treat them. There are animals out there that roam the streets with no food or water to nourish themselves.
If you look at how a GREAT DEAL of poor people AND animals live in this world, you'd consider Bri and her pets fortunate. Life is not a bed of roses. There are thorns too...
...AND there WILL be thorns, in EVERYONE's life. You just gotta learn to deal with them in the right way.
my. how about some humors since this is already out of hands? heard of "LOL"?? good lord, I never took that seriously, and as far as my concern was, neither did briana too.
also, what IF she is/was being abused? and along all they have is each other? that, none of site or my business of course but something to think about too.
this is pet talk - back to gizzy, pets, animals, creatures, beseech you people!
Pops- I couldn't in my lifetime see your child doing this b/c your child wouldn't be left to raise herself like it seems Brianna has been left to do which is indeed very very sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by popcornbird
Pops made some good points. And I also feel it is wrong to "trash" a young person's parents to her, no matter what. We do not know these people personally or what all is going on in their lives. We only have Bri's perspective and our own assumptions here. A younger person's perspective can be quite different from a parent's. There was a time when I was younger I would have considered some of my mom's actions as cold-hearted and mean, but now I know a lot more about what was going on with her and why it seemed that way. She loved me very much, and I'm sure Bri's mother loves her too.
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Originally Posted by shais_mom
Sorry Staci but you are completely wrong. The reason this whole thing started was to get Gizzie spayed in hopes of calming her down so Bri's mother wouldn't toss her out the door or into a KILL shelter.
Skye developed worms a short while ago a couple of weeks ago if I am not mistake and Bri's mom went and got the medicine to treat all the animals for worms as they are in contact with one of the other. The worms are gone from Skye and the others never showed any to begin with.
sorry for my confusionQuote:
Originally Posted by kittycats_delight
:( it certainly wasn't intentional
i'll edit my post or delete it
i do remember now reminded that it was originally a spay fund then it was found she had worms - i just never heard what happened after it was found she had worms.
No need at all just wanted to clear up the confusion. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by shais_mom
Pops- I am going to have Jonah start hounding you in a year or two for money. He needs 'mango money' now that you have us hooked on them!!!
First off, I'm not adding to the "lack of funds" to be paid in the house, whatever the heck you mean by that one. You're confused, and better get yourself straight before you blame a person in PENNSYLVANIA for taking money meant to pay bills in TENNESSEE. And as for the form and forging the siggy, come on, like she's going to do it. What I meant was, get the form signed by mom, get it done however you can, but get her to sign it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ginger's Mom
Did I ever say whether I was pro or con of this? No. I said I just wanted to get this moving for the animal's sake. I'm not taking sides. I'm trying to get things accomplished, and whether Bri decides to rehome Gizzie is up to her. Gizzie is her and her mother's pet, so if and when they decide to rehome her, they will make that decision. Unless you want to go down there and cat nap her yourself.
I am closing this thread, as it has gotten long out of hand.