Politics and religion.

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

Well...I am shocked, shocked, shocked!

The guy in the purple tie (and since when is purple an appropriate color tie for a politician???)

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Originally Posted by WashingtonExaminer.com

President Obama is zapping out all kinds of non-verbal messages...with that purple tie.

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Link.

YEah, what what that 'other symbol' Mr purple tie was wearing..........


Commie bees turd.

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

See Rahm
See Rahm move to Chicago.
Rahm want to be Mayor.
See Rahm Run.
Run, Rahm, Run!

Oh no.
Rahm cannot run!
Rahm got jacked by the appellate court.
Rahm will appeal again.
Is Rahm done?

Oh no.
Rahm has donations
He will use that money to appeal.
Appeal, Rahm, appeal!

See Chi-town.
Chi-town politics are fun.
Rahm and Chi-town politics are fun.

See Puff.
See Rahm puff up his chest.
See Rahm try to run for Mayor.
Run, Rahm, run!

See Spot.
See Chi-town's political history.
See Chi-town's spotty political history.
Run, Rham, run!;)

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Rahm is back on the ballot thanks to Illinois Supreme Court's ruling.:)
It ain't over till the fat lady sings. :p

http://www.suntimes.com/3521480-417/...-election.html

Good article, liz.

Thought this summed it up quite well -

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“The novel standard adopted by the appellate court majority is without any foundation in Illinois law,’’ the Supreme Court’s ruling said.

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When you look at all the eff ups in Chi Town politics, why shouldn't Rahm get on the ballot.;):rolleyes::o


One set of rules for the people, Crybabies pay lawyers.

And to think I was embarrassed about CA politics.:cool:

The fat lady is just as crooked as the politicians.

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Originally Posted by lizbud

Rahm is back on the ballot thanks to Illinois Supreme Court's ruling.:)
It ain't over till the fat lady sings. :p

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Rahm was my Congressperson. I met him...he came to my house...introduced himself...a guy who really understands politics.

But when you think how...what would describe it...anti-American? the decision would have been...if you go to serve your country - you give up your residency rights...well...let's see...if I go to Iraq or Afganistan to serve my country - and rent out my house - with every intention of returning...I give up my residency. Where then do I live?

You don't have to like politicians.... you don't have to like the military...but when someone goes to serve their country - they should not have to give up their residency - their existence - be punished -- because they choose to serve.

I wish I could count the number of times people say to me..."Chicago! The Windy City ...the windiest city in the country!"

Chicago is the 19th windiest city in the US. Cheyenne Wyoming is the windiest. But some people grab onto silly myths - because it is easy. And they say silly things. But let's forgive them. Silly myths can be fun.

So why is Chicago called the Windy City??...it was given that nickname by a New York newspaper in the late 1800's - because of the wordiness of its politicians - and the nickname stuck!

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

When you look at all the eff ups in Chi Town politics, why shouldn't Rahm get on the ballot.;):rolleyes::o


One set of rules for the people, Crybabies pay lawyers.

And to think I was embarrassed about CA politics.:cool:

The fat lady is just as crooked as the politicians.

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Actually RICHARD, Emanuels lawyers had a better argument. However Rahm's a wussy for not running a write in campaign. :p

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

if you go to serve your country...but when someone goes to serve their country - they should not have to give up their residency - their existence - be punished -- because they choose to serve.

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I agree with your premise, however, I do not agree that being the of Chief of Staff to the POTUS is serving ones country.

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Originally Posted by blue

I agree with your premise, however, I do not agree that being the of Chief of Staff to the POTUS is serving ones country.

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Isn't Chief Suck Up and K.A. an official post?

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LOL, I wouldn't trust any politician with 10 feet of me or my belongings.

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I stand corrected re the LAUSD cop.

He was arrested last night and released today.

He was charged with FILING A FALSE POLICE REPORT.


Seems like he shot himself and claimed it was a auto thief..

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Good article, liz.

Thought this summed it up quite well -

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“The novel standard adopted by the appellate court majority is without any foundation in Illinois law,’’ the Supreme Court’s ruling said.


Grace, I thought the ruling, which was 7-0, made it quite clear that
the lower court was out of line in removing Rahm in the first place.:)

Some only insist on strict Constitutionality only when they benefit from
it. Sorry, that's not they way it works folks.:)

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Originally Posted by lizbud

Some only insist on strict Constitutionality only when they benefit from
it. Sorry, that's not they way it works folks.:)

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:D Liz! Those are the same people who whine about "activist" judges -- defined as a judge who makes a decision you don't like.:D

Unlike say... a judge who goes to speak at a political rally...or who lies on his financial disclosure by failingto list the income his wife receives from her work for fringe political groups...

And then there is Michele Bachmann, who would cut veteran benefits.

The Army Times

Funny, When GWB was in office, people acted the same way when judges ruled the other way.

Ya get what you pay for.:D

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Originally Posted by Grace

And then there is Michele Bachmann, who would cut veteran benefits.

The Army Times

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Speaking as a veteran, I have no problem with this. Technically speaking,I am entitled to some VA disability benefits. I have some hearing loss because of my service. I simply refused to apply for it.

As with all government programs, the VA is not without its share of fraud/waste/abuse. I know of people who get a FULL disability check from the VA, but are still quite capable of having a job and/or still work under the table.

Yeah, I know it sucks. But we have to start SOMEWHERE. We simply can't keep spending like there is no tomorrow.... You won't have to worry about the bills, but I and most certainly my children will.

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Originally Posted by Puckstop31

Speaking as a veteran, I have no problem with this. Technically speaking,I am entitled to some VA disability benefits. I have some hearing loss because of my service. I simply refused to apply for it.

As with all government programs, the VA is not without its share of fraud/waste/abuse. I know of people who get a FULL disability check from the VA, but are still quite capable of having a job and/or still work under the table.

Yeah, I know it sucks. But we have to start SOMEWHERE. We simply can't keep spending like there is no tomorrow.... You won't have to worry about the bills, but I and most certainly my children will.

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I would have no problem with it - IF we then "cut" the wars/conflicts and brought every single service person home; from every single country where they are currently stationed.

You have some hearing loss, and chose not to avail yourself of help. That's all well and good, but what about all those troops from Iraq and Afghanistan - you know, the ones with traumatic brain injuries, loss of limbs? What about them?

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Originally Posted by Grace

I would have no problem with it - IF we then "cut" the wars/conflicts and brought every single service person home; from every single country where they are currently stationed.

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I agree about the conflicts we are fighting now. I do.

But as for pulling ALL our people back form any foreign country.... I know we are losing our superpower status, but for now we still need to be able to project power. Especially when our potential opponents are increasing their ability to project.

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You have some hearing loss, and chose not to avail yourself of help. That's all well and good, but what about all those troops from Iraq and Afghanistan - you know, the ones with traumatic brain injuries, loss of limbs? What about them?

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These are the people who the VA should focus on. The ones who are truly disabled by their service. I just want to waste to end. My hearing loss does not prevent me from working or living a normal life. But I know that a LOT of vets do take that monthly check...

Grace, I am sure you understand how dependance can utterly ruin a person. Surely in your career you have seen it. I know it FEELS great to help those in need.... If ONLY that was the case. But no... LBJ gave us the "Great Society". HA! LBJ single handedly created GENERATIONS dependant upon their hard working neighbors. GENERATIONS of people raised in single parent homes. But, he also did get those people to vote "D", so its all good.


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What do we cut then? How do we fix the almost impossible level of debt we have? I've always said that whatever the fix is, its going to hurt.

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Originally Posted by lizbud

Some only insist on strict Constitutionality only when they benefit from
it. Sorry, that's not they way it works folks.:)

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I agree.

No wonder we are going broke. We give aid to Egypt to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars.

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More than 80 percent of U.S. aid to Egypt, or $1.3 billion, is in the form of military assistance, according to data supplied by the U.S. State Department. With President Barack Obama in power, military aid has stayed unchanged and economic assistance has been cut to $250 million from $411 million in 2008 with the phasing out of democracy-linked programs.

The amount of money Egypt receives from the U.S. is exceeded only by Afghanistan, Pakistan and Israel, based on the State Department’s budget request for the current fiscal year.

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source

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

:D Liz! Those are the same people who whine about "activist" judges -- defined as a judge who makes a decision you don't like.:D

Unlike say... a judge who goes to speak at a political rally...or who lies on his financial disclosure by failingto list the income his wife receives from her work for fringe political groups...

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Justice Thomas was only about 15 years late in reporting the required
information.:rolleyes: Wonder if he thought to report it to the IRS? :eek:

Scalia is a cheap date and a loud mouth who will talk endlessly to anyone
bored enough to listen.;)

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Originally Posted by lizbud

Justice Thomas was only about 15 years late in reporting the required
information.:rolleyes: Wonder if he thought to report it to the IRS? :eek:

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Exactly what I wondered! Once a liar...well...

But what does BHO have to do with these guys? Or GWB for that matter?

I am confused. Thomas was appointed by GHWB and Scalia by Reagan.

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

But what does BHO have to do with these guys? Or GWB for that matter?

I am confused. Thomas was appointed by GHWB and Scalia by Reagan.

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Nada, zip, zero to do with either of them.

As my old History teacher used to say," a fact ignored is still a fact":)

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Originally Posted by Puckstop31

As with all government programs, the VA is not without its share of fraud/waste/abuse. I know of people who get a FULL disability check from the VA, but are still quite capable of having a job and/or still work under the table.

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The way I see it ????
Veterans are doing it no different than lots of others in your country, they are just trying to live.
A start ???
Stop giving massive aid to other countries. What ??? Is the USA some world Santa Claus ???
They talk about the billions and billions given to other countries by the USA, when we all know that if the situation were reversed, you would receive sweet Fanny Adams from other countries.
And then they talk about cutting down the veterans pensions, veterans who have given their very blood to their country.
Don't make no sense to me.
I think your country needs a bloody good clean out, and I wouldn't be starting with veterans.....no....go higher up the ladder, that's where you'll find the abuse, waste and fraud.

Now we have Palins's thoughts on Obama's reaction, or lack of it, to the
unrest in Egypt. Read her comments, they're better than the funny pages.:)

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sarah...ry?id=12851413

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Originally Posted by lizbud

Now we have Palins's thoughts on Obama's reaction, or lack of it, to the
unrest in Egypt. Read her comments, they're better than the funny pages.:)

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sarah...ry?id=12851413

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Her second speech is all over the place? I quit listening to it.

Sarah has bought up a good point. Who will be ruling Egypt? Any Ideas?

What are the chances Ms. Palin can name "those other countries" in the Middle East that she is worried about? What are the chances she can point to Egypt on a map - without coaching?

Would slim to none cover it?

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Originally Posted by Bonny

Sarah has bought up a good point. Who will be ruling Egypt? Any Ideas?

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Cleopatra ????

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Originally Posted by Bonny

Sarah has bought up a good point. Who will be ruling Egypt? Any Ideas?

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What Ms. Palin does not seem to understand is that it is not the role of the United States government to install rulers in foreign sovereign nations.

The Egyptian people will decide who will lead their country. As I understand it they want someone to lead - not to rule.

Now that Palin has her own thread can we keep this hate in there?

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

What Ms. Palin does not seem to understand is that it is not the role of the United States government to install rulers in foreign sovereign nations.

The Egyptian people will decide who will lead their country. As I understand it they want someone to lead - not to rule.

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Is that why we are fighting in Iraq,& Afghanistan? Our country has been either fighting or shelling out money & weapons for decades to our favorite rulers/dictators. It would be nice if we had people who want to lead & not rule in our own country.

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Originally Posted by Bonny

Is that why we are fighting in Iraq,& Afghanistan? Our country has been either fighting or shelling out money & weapons for decades to our favorite rulers/dictators. It would be nice if we had people who want to lead & not rule in our own country.

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Its a two sided sword. It keeps us fighting amongst ourselves and keeps the hate alive for Sarah Palin. Its a win win for the Libs.

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Originally Posted by Bonny

Is that why we are fighting in Iraq,& Afghanistan? Our country has been either fighting or shelling out money & weapons for decades to our favorite rulers/dictators. It would be nice if we had people who want to lead & not rule in our own country.

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I could not begin to answer why we are fighting in Iraq especially. Some Freudian complex I believe.

I hope this time we will recognize the difference between being lead and being ruled and make the right choice.

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

I could not begin to answer why we are fighting in Iraq especially. Some Freudian complex I believe.

I hope this time we will recognize the difference between being lead and being ruled and make the right choice.

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Being led, following by choice.

Being ruled, being forced to follow.

Any questions?

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Originally Posted by blue

Any questions?

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Indeed...aren't the 15 minutes up?

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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary

Indeed...aren't the 15 minutes up?

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So the truce is up?

How does Karen feel about this?

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Originally Posted by blue

So the truce is up?

How does Karen feel about this?

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How do I feel about what? Just remain civil toward each other, no name-calling and remember we are all here because we love pets. Everything else we can disagree about, as long as we remain civil and respectful.

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Originally Posted by Karen

How do I feel about what? Just remain civil toward each other, no name-calling and remember we are all here because we love pets. Everything else we can disagree about, as long as we remain civil and respectful.

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Having Sarah wonder how I feel about the Palin "girls" is over the line.

So if Sarah feels the truce is off you might as well ban us both right now.

You have the far left & you have the far right. But somewhere in the middle is common sense. ;):)

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Originally Posted by Bonny

You have the far left & you have the far right. But somewhere in the middle is common sense. ;):)

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Problem is there arent many center lefties any more. They call themselves center but they are far to the left of center. The upshoot is they are closer to sane then the far lefties. The rightie centrist are closer to center then the leftie centrists but still isnt center.

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Originally Posted by blue

Problem is there arent many center lefties any more. They call themselves center but they are far to the left of center. The upshoot is they are closer to sane then the far lefties. The rightie centrist are closer to center then the leftie centrists but still isnt center.

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So if someone stands on their head back to front, are they left or right or upside down backwards ????

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Originally Posted by wombat2u2004

So if someone stands on their head back to front, are they left or right or upside down backwards ????

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Are they looking into a mirror thats facing a mirror?