After reading this all over again , it just makes me sad.
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After reading this all over again , it just makes me sad.
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Originally posted by Accord
Also jadepit, I saw the website and it makes me puke. There is no way those pits will end up like that. I love them so much that they wont suffer like that. Eeeh its nasty. ::shivers::
It makes me cry, it makes everyone cry, and it happens in literally every big city in the U.S., daily. How do you know your pups won't turn out that way (I am callign them your pups because they are YOUR responsibility now, whether you're "babysitting" them or not, you can choose a good home for them in you want to)? What about THEIR puppies (which they inevitably WILL produce since their owners are ignorant and will not spay them)?! Have you given the new owners adoption contracts? Will you take these dogs back in 1-10 years if the new owners don't want them anymore? If you don't, they could EASILY end up in horrible hands and being used as bait dogs or fighting dogs, or breeding for the rest of their lives. Again, the SPCA will spay/neuter those Pit puppies for FREE! If I were you, no, I would not allow some one to adopt any dog if they believed altering a dog is "mean". Whats really mean is allowing your unspayed dog to be impregnated, giving birth twice a year for the rest of her life. It is really mean to give those puppies to people who don't know a thing about dogs, and who will probably lose interest and abandon the dogs later on. It has happened many, many times before. You SAY they won't end up that way, but obviously you have NO way of knowing that.
I don't think you realize the HUGEness of this. Those two females can (and probably will :() produce HUNDREDS of puppies in their lifetime! Pittie puppies are unfortunately a dime a dozen in shelters because of all of the irresponsible abusive neglectful exploitative people who tend to breed these dogs, and you can be sure that most of them will be PTS. It's a vicious cycle, and YOU can prevent that right now! It IS up to you, you can turn down those people who supposedly didn't want the pups to be spayed, and you can find responsible, wonderful owners for the pups who know something about dogs. I don't know if you realize that these puppies aren't property or merchandise, they have feelings, souls, and lives too.
*Been withdrawn* Ok. Im going to let this go.
I have been jobless for 4 yrs and still trying to get a job, and luckly I got the job yesturday and went through the basic steps. And now starting tmw full time from 8am to 8pm. Possibly 7 days a week depending on what happens.
I may have one friend that has the puppy brought.. might spay her.. She is re considering since she still feels it may hurt them since they are young.. But she is also thinking that its wise because of responsiblity. So shes talking with her boyfriend to see what he says. Since hes the one that put the money down on it.
Whatever happens it happens. If you guys think the puppies are in grave danger, why dont I send you some pictures of them and you guys can see what you think. Their tummy is full of food. Their pen is cleaned every day before I go to bed. They are running around and having a good time for 2 hrs. Since my husband works and I work. Im up at 6am, get them out, clean it in 10 minutues, feed them. Since I have no idea how bad parvo can be outside... *REMEMBER they had their shots and passed the parvo and other disease test* so what do you guys think? So when can they go outside and be potty trained?
Then I get ready, have breakfast, get my daughter ready. Give them a huge bowl of water for during the day, extra dog food is given before I leave. Take my daughter to the baby sitter's and then Im off to work till 8 at night. So whats wrong now?
Well IM going to bed. Im tired... I hurt, I work with BIG cats-courgars, 6 of them. Half of the day and then the other half is humans.
NOW this is where it gets interesting, thers a cougar at this property Im working at, his name is Ozzy, and hes a 1 yr old cougar who has brain damage from too much athusia (to put them to sleep for surgery procedure) and the vet declawed him too short. By Colorado Law, you have to have a permit and have one huge-wild animal for one year before you can get more and go on. For that one year period, there has to be no reports of troublism, livestock kills etc. And the permit passed. so now there are 6 cougars. But Im workin with the one that has brain damage. Im excited.
Good night.
I'm one to rarely get into something like this but PLEASE!Quote:
Originally posted by Accord
And I expect to see some positive stuff on here. and not arguable issues.
YOU expect to see some positive stuff on here? After the way you 've treated everyone...I highly doubt it.
You've treated everyone with no respect when all they've tried to do is to better educate you. You've cursed, blamed and yelled at everyone.
So, the puppies are things:rolleyes: That's so sad:(Quote:
Orginally posted by Accord
IF THE BUYER WANTS THEM SPAYED, THATS FINE. THEY PAY FOR IT. IF THEY DONT. THEN DONT HARRASS ME FOR IT. CAUSE I AM NOT GOING TO DISAGREE. ONCE ITS BROUGHT, IS "AS IS" THE BUYER CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT.
Now no more drama. Let them go. I dont need some mean people jumping on me because Im new here.
And btw, no one jumped on you because you were new or because of your hearing problem.
You say the puppies are all fine and have been tested. Not really sure if I believe that but I hope it's true and they all live a long healthy life.
If this upset you, well I'd say I'm sorry but I'm not. This is a public forum and I have the right to speak my mind just like you did.
Anna
Yep. Me too. :( What a sad situation for those puppies. :(Quote:
Originally posted by LorraineO
If I lived near you,, I would report you!
Hello Im Dusty, and I was reading this post, and wow its quick with drawing attention. I was reading everything from Accord and you ladies. And I most of agree with everything you ladies are saying.
Yes the ladies are trying to help Accord understand what BYB means. And yes I do understand that of course. And I see you ladies aren't showing quite enough encouragements for Accord. I dont see anything positive in there, saying that she did her job by getting the puppies checked and getting their first shots.
So Accord Congrandulations for getting their check ups and their shots. Thats good news. And Im glad they have a negative respnose to the viruses. So thats excellent news.
Also ladies, I dont think that was polite to say that you would say "If I live close to you, I will report you" naughty ladies, thats not nice to say. Say something that would be a little better then that. I think Accord is probably reading this but won't reply. Try to encourage her. I see why she's defensive is because you ladies are some what scaring her and sort of puting her down after all she was able to do. Please try not to put her down for those mistakes she made, I make mistakes too, and Im sure you girls do too. No one is perfect. I think you girls maybe have overwhelmed her with anxiety and pressure with her and the puppies. You girls should be thankful that she took them, feed them, love them, get their shots on time. I know Accord from another forum but I can't say it. She has told me some about it, and She told me that the mommy of those puppies abandoned them and she worked hard to save them. One of them almost died and she saved it. So please make her feel better. She feels insecured cause she doesn't have a lot of friends. So please try to have a gentle heart and help her and encourage her ok? I also think you ladies MIGHT be reading between the lines. Please dont think Im taking her side, Im not taking the ladies' side as well. Im just pointing out what you laidies have proven, and what Accord has tried to do. So Im not taking both sides. But did you read her recent post? That she is not going to breed the puppies? Did you ladies read that her dog didn't die in her hands for something she tried to save with the skills she have? Do you ladies know that it was not her fault that she thought that her puppy had her first shots? <dont blame her for not knowing it-she thought she knew, but felt the seller was full of shit> (Forgive me for my bad language, ::Tells myself bad boy:: Accord felt she knew that her puppy had the shots. But please dont try to blame her for not knowing that her puppy had no update shots. Sometimes the seller would lie just to get rid of them quicker. Again, remember, they thought their puppy had their first shot before they were claimed. Please try to understand that ok? So Im pretty sure Accord is fighting with her mom to get papers and information on her puppy's health.
Accord, Im pretty sure you rather hear this from a guy, right? I know the ladies aren't trying to be mean or to jump on you, you know that they are trying to help, but yes I agree how you feel that if they were being a little uptense about the "If I live close to you I will report you" I think they were trying to scare you. So dont worry. I know you can take care of them. Dont give up. Since you are working and helping your friends out. Encouraging THEM to hopefully spay/neuter their puppies. I have a good feeling that you wont breed your puppies... Mmm.. I wonder if you have another one for sale? Ill help pay to spay/neuter it for you. To relieve some stress. I hope you have one! I really want a boy. Its a guy thing. Sorry. :D Do you know what shots they have up to date? When is their next shot due? How much?
Ok girls are we going to be able to take care of this? Are we going to be a team to help Accord and encourage her? Are we going to stop blaming each other? Are we going to help Accord pull this through? Are we a team?
Ladies, encourage Accord to help get through the day.
Accord, please accept their encouragement and do what you can do to achieve this Puppy Goal. Everyone can do it, I know you can. Be strong. Be yourself and make it happen. Hope to see you on the Forum that we talked from.
Take care of those sweet rascals for me. If you have one for sale, let me know and I can buy it, help get it neutered/spayed, and their next shots. Im here for you since you are a sweet girl. And you done everything you could. Be positive and strong. Let the ladies give you advice, dont turn them down, open up to them please? Let them be a friend to you, like you are with me.
Love you Accord
Dusty
PS: Have Faith OK?
ok, am I the only one thinking *someone* is making multiple screen names???? maybe I'm just overly annoyed right now, but this is what I'm thinking now...
Just FYI...most women don't appreciate being called girls....you are coming off as being a mcp...jmho.
Of course not!
Are you guys getting upset?
What is MCP and JMHO? :confused:
Well what do you want me to call you? I was being respectful. Should I being calling you guys Ma'ams? The American way?:confused:
I tried to help both of ladies and Accord. So If you want me to leave, I will be happy to.
I don't think its necessary to differentiate anybody being male or female...why do you feel its necessary?
I won't say anything about the rest of yours or anyone else's posts except to say that the "girls" comment didn't offend me. I took at is a "come on, girls" like you would say to friends. I actually thought you were a woman just from your post. And, again, I'm not saying anything about the rest of the posts in this thread at all, but, I will tell you that I'm guessing mcp means male chauvenistic pig (although I've never seen it abbreviated) and JMHO means just in my humble opinion. A lot of people that chat online frequently use a lot of those things (like LOL, ROFL, JMO, etc), they're called acronyms and they're popular online. But, anyway, that's what they mean by that.Quote:
Originally posted by LuckyIrish
Of course not!
Are you guys getting upset?
What is MCP and JMHO? :confused:
Well what do you want me to call you? I was being respectful. Should I being calling you guys Ma'ams? The American way?:confused:
I tried to help both of ladies and Accord. So If you want me to leave, I will be happy to.
:confused: :confused: :confused:
:: checks down south :: I know Im a guy, thanks for noticing Finn's Mom :D
Well most women have very strong powerful words, casey's mom. And I think Accord felt it was to strong for her. So I thought I join and read, learn and understand and help everyone out. I didn't want all of you sweet ladies to feel she has turned against you ladies. I'll admit this, girls are smarter.
And I was thinking that from a man's perspective was to help clear the fog up and be extra helpful. Shockly theres about nearly 100 replies on here. And I thought maybe I can be helpful to you ladies and her, Accord. So we all can be happy. I was just helping :: gives puppy eyes of innonce ::
:rolleyes:
Do you want me to leave you ladies alone? Do you want me to leave and never come back? You dont love me? :: wah! :: :(