Can this really be true?

#1 I wont be an adult for 11 more days, which is the main problem, money being the second biggest problem as I'm sure all you mature people know, its not a cheap thing to do. #2, your all acting as if I just bashed this country, which I didn't do. In fact I said: "lol its fine to look at it like that, I'm not bashing America or Americans or anything that they 'gave us'."

If your trying to get me to feel so sorry for you all, tough. but Hey! I'm sure theres a few other nice people online for you all to b**ch at, because they publicly took pride in their countries and homes. ;)

[[so I'll say again, don't be so rude, or childish. You have your opinion and you can say it but it doesn't have to be snotty, especially when I've stayed polite in my responses. I was snitty in my first response because I believe it WAS rude of T&P's Mom to say what she did. ]]

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Originally posted by caseysmom
My mother dropped dead 2 months after starting celebrex...no problems before that...just be careful.

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This is just too strange...........I just heard this afternoon that a good friend's stepfather passed away very suddenly.

He had been on Celebrex for one month.

yea..we only have one earth, world is us all. living on earth can be so expensive but you got a free trip around the sun every year! :) with anywho (skins, furries, scales)... anywhere (land, water, air)... anyhow (walk, boat, drive)... anytime (morning, afternoon, evening)... anyday (day, month, year)... after you play so hard with this planet challenges (politics, insurances, taxes, wages ...and such) but hang on with your freedom, civil rights and heart!

To be quite frank Lpike, I find your comments rude, and I am not even an american, there is one thing that really grates on my nerves is when a foreigner comes to my country and does nothing but complain about it, my feelings are GO HOME.

You may well be feeling homesick, but to come online and say what you have like you have amazes me, you go on about Tubby and Peanuts comments being rude, well just look at your's.

When one goes to another country to live, you should embrace that country, its people, its language, its culture, its way of doing things, of course some are not going to be to your taste, but if you cannot do any of the above or most, how on earth can you become accepted or feel that accepted, you get as much back as you put in.

I am an immigrant as well, although my situation differs as I have been her most of my life from a baby, but still I could decide to favour the land of my birth and find distaste with my present country, but I chose not to , because I want to be a New Zealander, who also is proud to be Scottish too, one can be both, you can be a US citizen and proud and a German and be proud.

Just a further comment regarding Agrophobia, it is a very difficult illness to understand, but until you are one you cannot possibly understand completely, as your mother has this, you can have a fairly good understanding of it, I have a girlfriend with this, it is an unfair statement to say, if the house was on fire you would get out wouldn't you? of course she would, that is not what agrophobia is all about, it is not just about the fear of leaving one's home, it is far more complex than that.

I told you I meant nothing personal in my comments LKPike and in fact apologised if I sounded "testy". I think your reply to me WAS "snotty" and rude. My mother was German and except for my brother, son & daughter my only living relatives are German, living in Germany.. they would be appalled at your comments.

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Originally posted by carole
To be quite frank Lpike, I find your comments rude, and I am not even an american, there is one thing that really grates on my nerves is when a foreigner comes to my country and does nothing but complain about it, my feelings are GO HOME.

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It wasn't MY choice to be here, are you not reading correctly? "struggle to leave... #1 problem, #2 problem.."??

LBAKER - This argument has NOTHING to do with you. YOU wished to talk about my mothers mental health in a very matter-of-fact way which I did NOT appreciate. Or do you not remember? You people have nothing better to do than pick at each other all day. Keep up with the responses, if you wish to make an actual point.

So, LKPike, you are 17 years old. I had somewhat suspected you were young. You were raised in this country, correct? From birth? What doesn't follow are the following: statements about only being able to be gone 5-6 months at a time (aren't you in school somewhere over here? With 3 months break, at max?). You next mention money, a concern most of us have (so, how is it that you have done any extensive travelling? Certainly not with a mother that has such a condition).

It is one thing to dislike where you are, but, from my perspective, you are suffering a bit from the old 'the grass is always greener...'. I can't see how you have much lived anywhere else but here.

Maybe I am misunderstanding your explanation. So, please go on.

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Originally posted by Cataholic
So, LKPike, you are 17 years old. I had somewhat suspected you were young. You were raised in this country, correct? From birth? What doesn't follow are the following: statements about only being able to be gone 5-6 months at a time (aren't you in school somewhere over here? With 3 months break, at max?). You next mention money, a concern most of us have (so, how is it that you have done any extensive travelling? Certainly not with a mother that has such a condition).

It is one thing to dislike where you are, but, from my perspective, you are suffering a bit from the old 'the grass is always greener...'. I can't see how you have much lived anywhere else but here.

Maybe I am misunderstanding your explanation. So, please go on.

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I've been homeschooled since 1998, I travel every 5-6 months thanks to my 2 cousins and uncle in Germany.

Oh, I see. Thanks for the explanation. It just didn't seem to fit if you were in a traditional school setting.

I think perhaps you are suffering from the Grass is greener syndrome, I say that because even though you go to Germany a few times a year, it is basically on holiday, there sure is a huge difference to being a tourist than actually living in a country.

The best thing for you to do is save up hard and move back there, since you consider the home you have lived in for most of your young life not up to standard, I am curious what is it about America that you dislike so? gosh there are people out there who would give anything to live in such a beautiful country, with so much to offer., no country is perfect ya know, as you will soon find out on your return to Germany.

I just hope you realise how blessed you are to live in a land with so much opportunity and to have the choice to live in another land with equal beauty and opportunity's.

I really think LPike there are way's of saying some things, and what you have said here even I would take offfence to if it were about my country, I think most people here have been very polite to you considering your comments.

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I travel every 5-6 months thanks to my 2 cousins and uncle in Germany.

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When you travel how long are you there? Have you ever held a job there? Had to deal with their medical system? Benefits? Insurance? Government?

I'm not aruging with you, but I find it hard to imagine how one could think something is so great with only having visited it.

I've traveled a lot and have fallen in love with most of the countries I've visted. Especially Trinidad, I go as often as possible and have an amazing time every time I've ever visited. But when I sitdown and think about it I know I could never live there.

Here in the US, I work a simple job (Starbucks). Yet, I'm able to afford my own apartment, computer, cable television, I have good medical and dental insurance, air conditioning, car, I can vote and many other great things. I can rent or buy any home I want (assuming I have the money) regardless of my gender, skin color or sexual preference. I know that in many countries I wouldn't be able to have half of those things.

My partner and I have talked about moving to Germany in a few years because she wants to teach English there. If I go I will embrace their culture, I know I will not like things, but I would never bash them.

I think unless you have actually lived (rented or owned) and worked someplace else it's hard to get a full understanding of how things work.

I'm glued in Wisconsin. I don't know when the Blackfoot tribe came to America, but it was a long, long time ago. My family (the three current living generations) has never moved out of state, in fact I've only traveled to Florida once and to Minnesota twice in my lifetime. My roots are here and I know how to live here. If I moved out of the country I wouldn't have anybody with me and I wouldn't know how anybody lives. Moving to a new culture takes a lot of effort, not to mention funds that I don't have. I was asked to move to Malawi for five years but I said I'd be dead in a week out of sheer terror of being in a completely alien place. When I say I would love for our health system to change a bit I don't mean I'd like to move to a new country and neither does anybody else. When you guys go through school for sociology and to study stratification you will realize how primitive our health system is and you won't tell people to move to another country when they complain until then I think that these complaints are more than legitimized and you guys shouldn't be so angry about them

Having thought it over I really think LKPike has more serious personal issues to deal with than the state of health care in the U.S. I'm sorry I even ruffled feathers.

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Having thought it over I really think LKPike has more serious personal issues to deal with than the state of health care in the U.S. I'm sorry I even ruffled feathers.

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Ditto and if she wants out so bad, I sure hope she is able to work that out once she turns 18. Would hate to keep her here against her will, health care or no health care. :rolleyes:

Ok breathe. It sounds like we are all suffering asshole syndrome where we all bash each other's heads in and its becoming quite childish. We all just need to step down for a minute and open our minds a bit and realize that everybody has their problems and yelling at anyone to just "deal with it" is not always the best solution for that situation. The original post was to speak out about the health care system in America and I'm sure gini didn't want to start a blood bash.