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10-10-2007, 04:15 PM
ilovemypup

Also I would not recommend getting Windows Vista, because since it's new it have a bunch of bugs/gliches/etc etc.

I would wait.
10-10-2007, 04:18 PM
Hellow

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Originally Posted by ilovemypup

Also I would not recommend getting Windows Vista, because since it's new it have a bunch of bugs/gliches/etc etc.

I would wait.

Yes but by the time i get this computer ordered Microsoft will have released an Service Pack to fix all of the currently known glitches and bugs and security holes. And i also like the fact that DL.TV uses Vista in their show. And an Wii lol!
10-10-2007, 04:30 PM
Lady's Human

Microsquash has been issuing SP's for Vista well prior to it being on the market. It hasn't fixed a damned thing, which is why most comp manufacturers are still offering windows XP as an option.

Frankly, Vista is in the ranks of MS DOS v 4.0 and Windows Me. Operating systems which should have never been released.

As to PC World reviews, they gave Me a good review, and I know many, many people who could never get it to install on their systems, never mind get it working.
10-10-2007, 04:38 PM
lizbud

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Originally Posted by Lady's Human

Frankly, Vista is in the ranks of MS DOS v 4.0 and Windows Me. Operating systems which should have never been released.

For what it's worth, I agree with you here. Vista was rushed to market
well before the glitchs were worked out. I wouldn't touch it. It's not
worth all the trouble.
10-10-2007, 04:41 PM
Hellow

Yes but it is illogical to buy an Widows XP machine because it wont be supported by Microsoft at all by 2010. No support = No bug-fixes, security patches, service packs, no technical support, etc. And that compunded onto the fact that my current computer is about to blow up literally seems to tell me that i need an new computer.
10-10-2007, 04:45 PM
critter crazy

So i guess the question would be, If you already know so much, why even ask for help in the first place??:confused:
10-10-2007, 04:54 PM
Lady's Human

And Windows NT and Win 2000 Pro are no longer supported by Microsquash, but they are both still in heavy use.
10-10-2007, 04:58 PM
Hellow

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Originally Posted by critter crazy

So i guess the question would be, If you already know so much, why even ask for help in the first place??:confused:

For hands on reviews.
10-10-2007, 05:03 PM
Blue_Frog

PC: In a nutshell, no. Don't bother going with a brand name - you are paying for the name, and likely support that you won't ever use. If you do as much technical support as you say, then that would not be a problem for you. I build computers, and I would not recommend getting a pre-made PC if you have the knowledge that you say, to build your own.

I do recommend that you look into individual components -- the money isn't going to go bad, or burn a hole in your pocket -- do your research first. Look at the individual components (motherboard, memory, processor, etc.). Browse computer forums for both positive and negative experiences with the hardware you are looking for. Take your time and do it right, and you will have a better item for your money. Here are some examples of pre-mades at Tiger Direct - also cheaper, and does ship if you are going that route. They also sell individual parts, or will build you a custom for those parts.

Vista: In a second and larger nutshell, no. NO NO NO. I've used vista, i've tested software and hardware against vista, and my personal recommendation is that it sucks. hard. But thats just me. Do your own research first - a GIS for Vista Problems, Vista Issues (hey look, an entire forum just named that --- http://www.vistaissues.org/ ) and, just for fun, Vista Sucks. Don't get it in hopes that MS will fix it by the time you get it, thats just shooting yourself in the foot.

In regards to budgeting and your pet: Think VERY strongly before pouring out every last dollar into this. Christmas is coming up, will you have money for something under the tree for your parents and pets (if you do that kind of thing that is)? Even if you set aside $100 for a rainy day, thats better than nothing. From what i've seen in your posts, your family comes and goes with money -- it happens. But, its naive to believe that everything in the future will work out roses after you've spent all your money. What happens, when theres no money, and something bad happens with your dog again, and your parents don't have the money either because its all been spent? Then, having spent the full $500 on a new computer will leave you looking back and feeling like an a##hat. Trust me, i've seen my sister go through that.

I think that all people want you to do is seriously and objectively THINK it through, before jumping into it. /soapbox
10-10-2007, 05:13 PM
Hellow

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Originally Posted by Blue_Frog

PC: In a nutshell, no. Don't bother going with a brand name - you are paying for the name, and likely support that you won't ever use. If you do as much technical support as you say, then that would not be a problem for you. I build computers, and I would not recommend getting a pre-made PC if you have the knowledge that you say, to build your own.

I do recommend that you look into individual components -- the money isn't going to go bad, or burn a hole in your pocket -- do your research first. Look at the individual components (motherboard, memory, processor, etc.). Browse computer forums for both positive and negative experiences with the hardware you are looking for. Take your time and do it right, and you will have a better item for your money. Here are some examples of pre-mades at Tiger Direct - also cheaper, and does ship if you are going that route. They also sell individual parts, or will build you a custom for those parts.

Vista: In a second and larger nutshell, no. NO NO NO. I've used vista, i've tested software and hardware against vista, and my personal recommendation is that it sucks. hard. But thats just me. Do your own research first - a GIS for Vista Problems, Vista Issues (hey look, an entire forum just named that --- http://www.vistaissues.org/ ) and, just for fun, Vista Sucks. Don't get it in hopes that MS will fix it by the time you get it, thats just shooting yourself in the foot.

In regards to budgeting and your pet: Think VERY strongly before pouring out every last dollar into this. Christmas is coming up, will you have money for something under the tree for your parents and pets (if you do that kind of thing that is)? Even if you set aside $100 for a rainy day, thats better than nothing. From what i've seen in your posts, your family comes and goes with money -- it happens. But, its naive to believe that everything in the future will work out roses after you've spent all your money. What happens, when theres no money, and something bad happens with your dog again, and your parents don't have the money either because its all been spent? Then, having spent the full $500 on a new computer will leave you looking back and feeling like an a##hat. Trust me, i've seen my sister go through that.

I think that all people want you to do is seriously and objectively THINK it through, before jumping into it. /soapbox

Actually, i would build an PC if i had the time. But i have virtually built my own PC on HP's customization page. And i like it. Its everything i need and leaves room for upgrades. The one reason why i keep buying premade PCs is that you pretty much know that it'll work. When you build your own you just don't know. And since DIY PCs have parts from different manufactures such an Segate for Hard Drives but Samsung for Optical drives, you don't know what has gone wrong if your PC suddenly stops working. But with an premade you know what to fix or just call Technical Support and they will know for sure.
10-10-2007, 05:19 PM
Lady's Human

I hate to tell you this, but EVERY computer manufacturer outsources parts, and they don't always know what fails. If it falls outside the tech support flowchart, they may or may not be able to help you.

If you DIY and you properly assemble the machine, you will know precisely what fails when. (and if you build it properly it probably won't fail)

You'll also learn more about how the system works.
10-10-2007, 05:28 PM
Hellow

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Originally Posted by Lady's Human

I hate to tell you this, but EVERY computer manufacturer outsources parts

Yes, i know. But HP's machienes are manufactured well because mine has survived through 7 years of abuse and moving. And my dads has lasted for 13 years and still runs.I trust most of my digital life to HP and it normally lives up to what i say. And i have personally designed this system so it should meet or exceed my needs. and its still under $500. The rest i will buy toys for Reggie with lol.
10-10-2007, 05:56 PM
Catty1

So they were well made 7 years ago and 13 years ago.

What about now?

Where do the parts come from?

Here's a couple of consumer review pages that look pretty good:

http://www.consumersearch.com/www/computers/index.html

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/e...ters/index.htm
10-10-2007, 06:11 PM
Alysser

I might have supported you in the other thread, but seriously these excuses have me shocked. There is a big difference between NEED and WANT. YOU don't need a computer, you want one. You said yourself, it was voluntary. You didn't need to volunteer to do it. 899 students wouldn't be mad at you for not getting news in, that is complete BS. In my school, no one even cared. I find it VERY hard to believe your school doesn't have the technology to allow you to do it there. What about your local library? I also doubt the teachers leave as soon as the students do. What if you need extra help with something in hard subjects such as math or language arts, or anything for that matter? People have to stay after school because during the school day there is not time for that stuff.
I'm sorry but I have to agree, you are being rather selfish. I really disliked the statement "BLOW money on reggie". That means you are wasting money on something, and if you really cared about your dog then a $300 or so wouldn't be a waste. You just care so much about reputation in school, because that is more important then your pets lives I guess. Whatever, I wish you would see where we are coming from but you obviously don't seem to care.

As for deleting this thread and starting it over, this will all happen again.
10-10-2007, 06:22 PM
Hellow

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Originally Posted by Maltese_Love

I might have supported you in the other thread, but seriously these excuses have me shocked. There is a big difference between NEED and WANT. YOU don't need a computer, you want one. You said yourself, it was voluntary. You didn't need to volunteer to do it. 899 students wouldn't be mad at you for not getting news in, that is complete BS. In my school, no one even cared. I find it VERY hard to believe your school doesn't have the technology to allow you to do it there. What about your local library? I also doubt the teachers leave as soon as the students do. What if you need extra help with something in hard subjects such as math or language arts, or anything for that matter? People have to stay after school because during the school day there is not time for that stuff.
I'm sorry but I have to agree, you are being rather selfish. I really disliked the statement "BLOW money on reggie". That means you are wasting money on something, and if you really cared about your dog then a $300 or so wouldn't be a waste. You just care so much about reputation in school, because that is more important then your pets lives I guess. Whatever, I wish you would see where we are coming from but you obviously don't seem to care.

I have one question, HOW DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH REGGIE?!?!?! MY MOM AND DAD ARE TAKING HER TO THE VET!!! IM NOT! THEY SAID THEY WOULD! I am buying this desktop! i will buy Reggie some toys with the leftover money if there is any. I have the desktop placed on order for when i pay they will ship it. And there is no way to cancel that.

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