Oh Great! ALL the "Donation to Roxyluvsme13" threads have been DELETED!

I have no idea what this whole thing is about. I have seen postings by the subject of this thread but never enough to attract my interest.

But now I see someone contacted the animal authorities in the town where this child lives for reasons that I cannot understand.

I hope this is a joke. Like the Thursday bar thread. I would hate to think anyone would go to the trouble to contact authorities in another country about a situation that has been well known but now....what???? As revenge????

Okay...she may have scammed and lied. Maybe she has no animals...maybe she isn't even real. Maybe her mother is a poor money manager and a scammer too. I don't know. That's why I am very careful about IF...and to whom I send money. Nonetheless I am sure I have been taken.

But to call the authorities???

I am shocked and hope I misunderstand something....

I don't think anyone did that, at least that is not my understanding.

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Originally Posted by Catty1

But I did email the animal people in her city and ask for advice, gave them a brief outline.

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I just think she emailed them and asked for guidance.
To my understanding.

I just asked for advice. Period.

Thanks, shais_mom.

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Originally Posted by Catty1

I just asked for advice. Period.

Thanks, shais mom

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that is what I thought, you are welcome. :)

I missed all the last lot of things that happened as I and my husband were sick and I was not online. It seems to have turned into a war though.

Catty-Animal Control was called on her one time before as a revenge tactic by someone she knew. If another goes in she will most likely lose the animals. This means they will be PTS. The shelter is HIGH KILL. And animals they confiscate or that are owner surrenderare PTS. When all the crap was going on about Gizzie and her mom wanting her gone the info given by the shelter was that they were full to capacity and all owner surrenders would be PTS asap. They simply cannot accommodate them. And as for rehoming. There are animals in much worse situations than Bri's. Ok I agree they are not in ideal situations but they are fed and clean and she does love them. They are not out on the street fending for themselves and straving and riddled with disease. They are not in a household where they don't get food or water and are literally kicked around. I don't know how easy it would be to rehome them as it was tried before without success.

I have spoke to Bri over the phone about things concerning her mom. Health wise and such and Bri's mom doesn't want to listen to anything anyone has to say even Bri. That girl cried to me about what if's and the fact her mom gets anger when she tries to talk to her about stopping smoking, changing the take out diet and taking her meds. She has begged her mother and gets told to mind her own business. Like she said to me she doesn't want to lose her mom but her mom won't listen to anyone. Her mother does need conselling in my opinion and so does Bri because of the situation she is living in. She has no other role model but her mom and she knows things that no child should have to know or worry about that happens in her household.

Maybe it isn't my place to tell some of these things but I think people need to understand it is not her doing. She has not seen one penny of the money that went into the pet fund. Once I speak to Bri. If I have to I will call her. To make sure it is ok to share about the situation and circumstances of the birthday money and outfit. Then I will let you in on that info.

I'll shut up now and get blasted for being stupid and blind and gullible. That's fine. But this girl needs someone in her corner to try to atleast understand her. And think about it. If she is doing and saying all these things for attention (mostly negative) she needs understanding cause there is obviously something wrong. IF that is the case then something is lacking somewhere and she needs help don't ya think. Enough said probably more than enough. Blast away.

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Originally Posted by kittycats_delight

I'll shut up now and get blasted for being stupid and blind and gullible. That's fine. Blast away.

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Nope !!!!! No blasting from here. I agree with every word you say.
Bri is your mate, you've stood by her, that's what mates do....they stand for each other.
Wom

I have no doubt Bri is in a difficult situation and I don't feel any of this situation was an attempt at a scam on her part, however if her mother is having trouble putting food on the table and paying the electric bill, four (or more) pets is too many. As I understand it, some of these pets were here before this financial crisis and did not receive routine care, i.e. spaying and shots, even then. The situation is not fair to the animals and not fair to the child involved. At least some of them should be rehomed for both the family's sake and the animals' sakes.

A large part of the problem as far as the clash between the board and Bri has been her own attitude. When people have given advice or suggestions she did not like, or questioned things that she felt shouldn't be questioned, she became rude and sarcastic with lots of rolling eyes emotes, etc. This whole blow-up may not have happened if she had remained patient and polite with people even when they said things she did not wish to "hear." You aren't going to gain much empathy and understanding that way. I hope she can learn something by all of this but it seems she is stuck in the mind set that she's the victim and everyone else just out to get her. It's going to make life more difficult if she can't change that way of thinking and reacting to those around her. I certainly do hope and pray for the best for both people and pets involved.

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Originally Posted by K9soul

I have no doubt Bri is in a difficult situation and I don't feel any of this situation was an attempt at a scam on her part, however if her mother is having trouble putting food on the table and paying the electric bill, four (or more) pets is too many. As I understand it, some of these pets were here before this financial crisis and did not receive routine care, i.e. spaying and shots, even then. The situation is not fair to the animals and not fair to the child involved. At least some of them should be rehomed for both the family's sake and the animals' sakes. .

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I cannot agree with this more. I have said this over and over again. No one is helping Bri or her animals by keeping the animals in the home. They do not have the money, time, knowledge or patience to care for that many animals. It is only adding to the stress and financial hardship. Those that want to help Brianna need to assist in finding good homes for her animals, and be there to support her in her certain grief at having to give up some of her beloved animals. I do not know if the family is in a position to keep any of the animals, I would like to think that Bri could maintain at least one of her pets, but I am not sure if that is a realistic goal for this family. What those who are truly interested in being a friend to Bri need to do is gather around her, let her know that she is still a good and worthwhile person without the anilmals in her life, and that they will still be there for her. They then need to do whatever they can to assist in finding appropriate homes for the animals. It would be great if Bri would assist in this process since she knows the animals better than anyone, but it is understandable if it would be to difficult for her to do so.

As in every story there is much hidden and not said. Perhaps this girls mom has deeper problems then we know. Perhaps for her it's a struggle to find happiness on a daily basis.

If you are raised by someone who is dishonest, lazy, abuses drugs, drinks, you don't have a good role model. I am not saying her mom does any of these things I am speaking in general. Still if this girl's home life is unhappy she will have a hard time. Sometimes one person is all you have and if that person is not a good parent you feel very much alone in the world.

None of us really knows how bad it is for her or how good. If she has a snotty attitude that could be a defense against pain. We all know that many angry people are pain ridden and this is how they cope.

I want to end by saying I hope all goes well for her and the pets and that mom and daughter gets some therapy.

I have never read any of the threads asking for donations. Her threads were too young for me to enjoy from the very beginning. I hope they get help, as it sounds like it is needed. I do hope they will rehome the pets they have and focus on themselves and their needs.

I remembered this from a 12-step meeting ages ago...that there are often a lot of animals in dysfunctional families. Why? The kids receive love, unconditional at that. Her screen name says 'Roxy loves me', not 'I love Roxy'.

Another trait of DFs is that the child winds up having to act as a parent or an adult, the responsible one. She has said she could never leave because her mom needs her. What about what BRI needs?

I hope when Bri returns to school she will see the school counsellor, and find out that the behaviour she puts up with is not normal or loving (although her mom loves her, I am sure), and that it affects her badly.

Bri - we learn from our parents. If you ever have kids, you will treat them the way your mom treats you. The only way to prevent that is to start changing yourself now. The school counsellors are there to help, to talk to - and they don't gossip (it's against the law).

You deserve better, the best. Go for it.

hugs

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Originally Posted by wombat2u2004

Nope !!!!! No blasting from here. I agree with every word you say.
Bri is your mate, you've stood by her, that's what mates do....they stand for each other.
Wom

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ditto here -
I certainly don't think your blind and gullible or stupid -
While I may not agree with you about her or her for that matter, I think what you've done for her is noble and outstanding. And just b/c I don't agree with you does not mean I would call you blind, gullible or stupid or even think that.

Please read all this before you respond (or not, as the case may be ;) ):

1. This is the reply from the shelter I got a few minutes ago:

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we would need the address and we can enforce the rabies. we will be happy to talk about spaying and neutering, nothing we can force on them though. the humane society has grant money to pay for spay/neuter, if they will contact the humane society. 423-926-8533

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2. I replied that removing the animals right now would be too hard on the young woman, as most shelters are really stressed to the max.

I will PM Bri the Humane Society info.

Needless to say, I am NOT providing an address or anything...that means the animals would die. Period. High-kill shelter. So I hope no one even THINKS about that. :mad:

That's all for now.

If that is the case and the humane society has spay/neuter funds maybe Bri will be eligible. I can't imagine why they wouldn't be seeing their current finacial situation. That would be good all the way around. Atleast then they are all good for another year healthwise and it gives Bri's mom a chance to get things together if she is willing and able to do so.

Priorities most certainly have to change and maybe Bri's mom will finally allow her to get a job of some sorts. I just hope things work out. Things definately need to change for the better for them. Not just for themselves but for the animals too. And things have to change both for mom & Bri's physical and mental health as well. The way they are right now is not healthy in anyway shape or form. I just want what is best for them because inside all the anger, attitude and sadness Bri is a lovely girl. She just needs a normal life with not all the stresses of dealing with the worries of an adult world (financial and otherwise).

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Originally Posted by Catty1

Please read all this before you respond (or not, as the case may be ;) ):

1. This is the reply from the shelter I got a few minutes ago:



2. I replied that removing the animals right now would be too hard on the young woman, as most shelters are really stressed to the max.

I will PM Bri the Humane Society info.

Needless to say, I am NOT providing an address or anything...that means the animals would die. Period. High-kill shelter. So I hope no one even THINKS about that. :mad:

That's all for now.

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