New Baby!!!!

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Originally Posted by bckrazy

Wow.

I hope you know that BYB's produce the majority of the overpopulation. There IS a difference, because less demand = less supply.

Good luck with your puppy June, anywho. I'm sure he is adorable & I hope he will turn out really healthy & happy.

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And I am sure he will be.. And she would take NOTHING but the VERY BEST of care for her new puppy- as well as the one she has now..

bckrazy- the fact is over 3/4 of the dogs in shelters are mix breeds of mix breeds. People that have a mix, do not spay or neuter because " its just a mutt" mentality and " not worth the money...".Its also a sick fact most "pure bred" dogs are better cared for. " ITs a Pure Bred" mentality. Both attitudes are inexcuseable- but also sad and true.
Breed rescues account for some the placements, but the fact is, the bulk of dogs that come to breed rescues were contacted from the owners- not the shelters.. In addition, a " pure bred" is more likely to be adopted.
And PLEASE understand, as stated several times now- she WANTS a Pug- and a black one..

Anyways for all of you saying that it's a waste to buy from a breeder, and that I should buy from a shelter YOU'RE WRONG!!! Most of the dogs that come into the shelter here are sick and will die within the first 5 years of buying them.

We want a pug we found one in the paper, I went online, I chose the pug my dad liked him too so we bought him. End of story. Stop ragging on me saying that I'm a bad person to buy from a breeder. I'm not. Even if it was a BYB I'd be saving the pug from there. Think of it that way.

Everyone tells me that I can't buy from pet stores, local breeders, BYBs, etc. Where are we supposed to get one then? We aren't going to go out and buy a 2,000 dollar show quality pug just so we can have him as a loyal, loving, pet, (Or child ;) ) We also arent't going to go out and adopt a sick, untrained, and old dog. Believe me I'd love to take one in but I couldn't deal with losing an adopted dog a few years later.

Pugs are VERY hard to come by and those who own them know that for a fact. Breeders/Pet Stores are really the ONLY places to find them. Not to be mean or rude but I've been standing by watching people call me disgusting and other things because I'm adopting from a breeder. I only want POSITIVE thoughts. Nothing negative because that hurts and we already basically have him. So please back off a little. Thank you. :)

To be honest, I dont care about the breed of dog. If the parents are registered purebreds yet are not being shown to prove their conformation & their worthiness of being bred, and are not being tested to prove genetic soundness, it might as well be a mixed breed. And breeding mixes is on the same level as breeding unproven purebreds in my mind.

I have 2 dogs from rescue, one a purebred & one a mix. My Border Collie is from BCRNC, and I have fostered for them twice. They don't even ACCEPT any dogs from owners, only purebred BC's from shelters, because even with many foster homes in Northern California, they can only save a small fraction of the BC's dying in shelters. My Corgi mix had a purebred Corgi mom who was dumped in a shelter pregnant, and rescue thankfully took her in. Both of my dogs were saved from BYB's and both would be in a bad situation or dead right now if they weren't. Of course there are "better" BYB's out there, but the fact is they are ALL hurting dogs, whether that's from dumping their excess or unwanted dogs in shelters, or simply hurting the breeds genetically/temperamentally/conformationally.

Well, good for you then. ;) This is our choice and I don't care if you respect it or not because this puppy is our new baby. He'll live a long and happy life with a big step-brother to show him the ways of being a pug. So thanks for you're input in this topic :D

EEEk Just read your post borzoimom. Sorry!!!!

YOu are getting on a " soup box" that doesnt even apply here. If you want to open a thread on BYB's- go ahead, but it doesnt belong here. As a matter of fact- go ahead, because on that forum I want to ask you a series of questions about your dogs..
Enough - JUNESCRATER- CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW ADDITION- AND HOW MANY DAYS is it now????? lol

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Originally Posted by junescrater716

Most of the dogs that come into the shelter here are sick and will die within the first 5 years of buying them.

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Both of my dogs are from rescue, and they are the healthiest, happiest, most well-adjusted pups I could ask for. thankyou. =]

There IS such a thing as reputable breeders, you know. Check out the Pug breed club, they have 100's of references to good breeders in EVERY STATE.

Supporting a BYB might be saving that one life, but it also ensures that the breeder continues to pump out puppies that add to the devastating overpopulation. Pugs are part of the country's overpopulation, too.

Of course you wouldn't buy a $2000 show Pug. But for a few $100 more, you could easily find a pet quality Pug pup from a reputable breeder who shows the parents & tests them as well. Of course you have the right to buy from who ever you want to, just as I have the right to try to encourage you to look into reputable breeders instead. I would never bash you for wanting to buy a pup from a breeder, I just question the breeder you are buying from, and I would be shocked if any dog lover did not believe that reputable breeders are the only responsible way to buy a pup.

Pugs on Petfinder: 682

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Originally Posted by borzoimom

As a matter of fact- go ahead, because on that forum I want to ask you a series of questions about your dogs..

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Go for it. PM or you can create a different thread.

Borzoimom- 5 days!!! YAY!!!

bckrazy- Are you saying now that I'm not a true dog lover??? :( :confused:

Junes- its been reported- .. Any dogs ability to live well and happy is in the hands of the owner, and you are a dedicated, loving caring owner of your dog- soon to be DOGS..

Thats so cool. Instead of saying "my dog" I can say "my DOGS!!!!" Yippeee!!!! :D

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Originally Posted by borzoimom

YOu are getting on a " soup box" that doesnt even apply here. If you want to open a thread on BYB's- go ahead, but it doesnt belong here. As a matter of fact- go ahead, because on that forum I want to ask you a series of questions about your dogs..
Enough - JUNESCRATER- CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW ADDITION- AND HOW MANY DAYS is it now????? lol

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Whats a soup box???? Is that like a soup can??? hehe


Erica...my biggest problem is I think about our family and bubba, as you know we were looking for a small dog and had looked high and low at shelter so I bought from what was most likely a byb. I have a lot of guilt because if we had taken one from a shelter instead that would have accomplished two things, 1. it would have discouraged byb in our area if they don't have customers and 2. it would have made a place for another dog in a shelter and saved a life.

I have learned a lot from many people on this board, many younger than myself but I never get too proud to listen, I certainly don't know everything about all subjects just because I am older. I highly replect bccrazy on this subject, she is just trying to help the animals.

IT'S NOT A BAD BYB!!! HECK I DON'T EVEN THINK IT IS ONE!!! :mad: The breeder offered to show us around and a bad byb wouldn't do that. They would try to keep people away so that they wouldn't get reported!!! She practically begged us to come over and take a look around so everything was up to our standerds!!!

I wasn't implying this was a bad byb...just a byb...to me that in itself is bad. The place we brought bubba invited us in also, she had dewormed and gived there first shots and was a lovely loving woman, she was still a byb however.

I did it so I am not sitting in judgement, just sharing what I have learned.

I know all about BYBs, Puppy Mills, Pet Stores, etc. I belong to a few clubs that are against them. People are treating me like I don't know what I'm talking about and it's getting annoying because they keep repeating things over, and over, and over again. lol it's driving me crazy!!!lollllllll