Where do you stand?

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Originally Posted by Lady's Human

The reason that the National Guard is the force in question rather than the regular army is Posse Comitatus. This law prevents federal military forces from being used in a law enforcement role within the borders of the United States.

If anyone had any true intestinal fortitude (and this includes everyone on Capitol Hill, not just republicans or just democrats) they would revise Posse Comitatus and allow Federal Forces to be used on the border areas to protect the border. The excesses from the post-Civil War era are long since over, and like many other statutes that have gathered dust over the years need to be revised.

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I don't think so LH.

Posse Comitatus, as is, does not prevent Federal troop action, just makes
sure the State invites them in when needed.Local control, not Federal.

Not sure what excesses from post Civil War era your talking about, but
we the people (all of us) are still undergoing excesses from the federal
level each & every day.

Posse Comitatus explicitly prohibits Federal troops from undertaking ANY mission that requires them to act in a law enforcement capacity. They cannot be used in any way, shape or form to enforce laws. This is why the rebuilding of New Orleans, for example, was started with a mix of troops, mostly National Guard. The Guard undertook law and order functions, and the active troops stuck strictly to helping rebuild. A state governor can request federal troop assistance, but it is strictly for labor, and those troops are barred from undertaking any enforcement activities whatsoever.

Enforcement activities include enforcing US Border laws.

Here we go.. :(

Not to be a jerk...

We got our wish.....

wait until the first gun battle goes down and bystanders are killed.

Read the book "Hammerheads" by Dale Brown.

Alot of good intentions gone awry there.

Herein can be found that rare native tree, the Presidential Timber, struck down in mid-sprout by the jawbone of a politician. Pogo returns to the swamp from a couple of political conventions to find his unfinished business being rapidly finished, once and for all, by rough and ready hands.

"We Have Met The Enemy and He Is Us" :(

w.k.

Richard,

funny, I always thought "Hammerheads" was a pretty damned good idea. Unfortunately, CNN wouldn't think so.

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Originally Posted by Lady's Human

Richard,

funny, I always thought "Hammerheads" was a pretty damned good idea. Unfortunately, CNN wouldn't think so.

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The book was way ahead of it's time.....the "awry" part was the media's fault...in the book!

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Originally Posted by moosmom

I believe that the borders should be closed and that the laws be made stricter as far as illegal immigrants are concerned.

Everytime an immigrant enters the US illegally, a LEGAL resident of the US is shortchanged.

There was a story in the paper a few days back about an illegal immigrant gave birth in the desert so that her child would be born a legal immigrant. What next???

We need to start taking care of our own LEGAL residents.

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The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.

I agree with moomoms We get short changed every time.

While I did not read this entire thread I am going to give my two cents.

The thing everyone needs to remember is that whether they are getting a free ride or busting their humps, illegal immigrants are just that... ILLEGAL. I don't think any special arrangments should be made for them. You wouldn't make any special arrangments for a local shoplifter would you? They willingly came into the country as an illegal immigrant. They made the choice. Now for them to stand up and demand respect and to be recognized? we don't give any other criminal respect or special treatment. and thats just what illegal immigrants are. Criminals.

I am a Canadian citizen and my husband is American. We had to live apart since we were married because we chose to do things legally. I could have come into the country as an illegal but we went through the process so that I could be a LEGAL resident. It's tough to go through but we did it. So can they.