Well,
I still think if my daughter died I certainly wouldn't be on the computer browsing posts.
Another thing- notice that as soon as people started asking for proof Jessica died "Jessica's Mother" stopped posting, stopped replying to PM's.
~Rachel
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Well,
I still think if my daughter died I certainly wouldn't be on the computer browsing posts.
Another thing- notice that as soon as people started asking for proof Jessica died "Jessica's Mother" stopped posting, stopped replying to PM's.
~Rachel
Again- Notice the many "Smilies".
It's just weird how someone who didn't want their child on a board automatically knew how to post, reply and even use "Smilies".
I'm also very confused. I agree with what Kayann is saying. Also notice that she used the word 'tiels'. I *think* Jessica used that word. Why did her "mother"? I would think that she would use 'cockatiels' not 'tiels'.
Plus if Jessica's mother didn't eant her here in the first place why would she even bother to tell us that Jessica died?
Would it be possible to contact an authority in the state she lives/lived and get some info on whether she died or not? There must be some record! But then it's most likely not accessable to just anybody.
Is it possible for Karen and Paul to check/compare IP's to show from which machine/server the user has sent? Someone could also have registered in a new name by now, but from the same machine. Just a thought.
I agree that there seem to be many things not adding up here, but no one really knows for sure what happened.
I hope she's alive/unhurt (if she's Jessica at all) and I hope that it's someone else who did this!
I also noticed that someone is online as jessica 12345 and if that is her mother, I would certainly defend myself to these accusations.
If it's a hoax, I'd delete the whole thred, because that someone is obviously having fun following it!
She's on right now 'Using Private Messaging System'.
I noticed she (or someone using her name) is on too. If we don't get a reply to all our questions, I vote that we all stop posting ANYTHING about her on any thread. Then if someone is just doing this to see our reactions and what we are saying, they will be out of luck.:mad:Quote:
Originally posted by apcrs5122
She's on right now 'Using Private Messaging System'.
And guess what? Now she's read every message that I sent.
~Rachel
I was just checking "who's online" and she was reading this thread.
So Jessica, or Jessica's mom, or whoever using that name, please say something!
She's read mine also
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Originally posted by bluekat
I was just checking "who's online" and she was reading this thread.
So Jessica, or Jessica's mom, or whoever using that name, please say something!
I did too. Once it said that they were replying to it, and then they weren't.
I just hope we get some more information on this soon.I dont want to say anything until we find out what happened.
Randi, in the U.S. such records, traffic accidents, death notices/certificates are public info. under the "freedom of info. act." You'd have to know what state/town and the person's name, though. We don't know where Jessica (real name??) lives or her last name; only an appx. age. I would just like those of us who cared so much for her, who grieved so much over her "death," could have some relief from the uncertainty. I for one would be thrilled to know that a life was not lost. No questions.
Well, I've kept quiet until now. Putting myself in Jessica's shoes, if I, or another member of my family, were to pull such a stunt, I would just delete the cookies in the computer. That way when go to the PT forum, I'm not logged on but can still view all the responses. But then again, maybe she wants us to see how often she's logged on.......just to keep us in suspense....
I'm on the fence about this one. Don't have a clue what to think.
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Originally posted by 2kitties
But, I think that you know that NO FAMILY outside of the Jerry Springer set would EVER even joke that their child was dead.
Now, why did you have to bring Jerry Springer into all this? Don't you know that Cincinnati, as a community, is still sick over him???
According to what "she" wrote herself in one post, she lives/lived half an hour from Boston.Quote:
Originally posted by tatsxxx11
Randi, in the U.S. such records, traffic accidents, death notices/certificates are public info. under the "freedom of info. act." You'd have to know what state/town and the person's name, though.
It's so sad if she did die, but it's just as sad if she didn't and there are that sick people on the loose pulling a stunt like this!
Randi,
Living half an hour from Boston could put her in three different states.
Really, I think the fact that her mom was on here posting while her daughter was in critical care...and, since she died shortly thereafter, it must have been pretty critical...I just don't get her coming home to pick up clothes, and post on the internet. I can't remember, either, if she said she was coming home to change HER clothes, or pick up clothes for Jessica. If it is the latter, that would just be strange, as I think they still make you wear gowns in ICU....
I just double checked....Jessica's mom was home picking up a few things for JESSICA. What ever would you need in ICU?
This Is Jessica's Mother, Jessica Was Hit By A Car....
Hello everybody. I cant beleive it, but its true. My daughter, Jessica, is in the hospital right now in critical condition. She got hit by a car while walking down the street going to play basketball. I've been crying ever since it happend, and i havn't slept yet. I can't beleive it. I'm home right now just getting a few things for her and thought i would inform you. I am not sure if this post will even get posted though, because I dont know how anything works here.
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Johanna, you beat me to it........but this was Jessica's Mother's post...........
She sure found out how to post smilies, and she knows about private messages.......but, yet, she didn't know how "anything works here".
Catholic...throughout my career as a nurse, I have worked solely in ICU's. Not only are such personal items, as a rule, not allowed in ICU's, (especially with a newly admitted patient, in such critical condtion) there is no need for them. Parents of children in such a tenuous state, in my experience, do not leave the bedside, let alone the hospital, less than 24 hrs. after their child has been admitted. Our hospital provides facilities for showering, food, provides cots for sleeping, etc. Anything from home that might be needed, such as a change of clothes for the parents, is usually picked up by other family members/friends. That was the one thing that struck me as very odd on Friday. Jessica's mother going home to pick up some of Jessica's "things."
Randi...I checked all of the death notices from the Boston Globe/State of Mass. for Fri. July 25-28th on line and nothing that fits these circumstances was found.
As someone who has for almost 20 years, had the unenviable job of attempting to comfort and console parents who have tragically lost a child to a drunk driver, or under any circumstance for that matter, I am offended beyond words and horrified to think that anyone could even begin to consider such a "hoax." It offends everyone who has ever had to deal with the loss of a loved one.
2 kitties...I understand what you're saying, but if this is the extent to which young adults (at 14, she is that) will go to validate their existence, get attention, we are a very troubled society indeed. Jessica was very loved here and I think she knew that. She did not appear to me to be depressed or insecure. I think whomever has perpetrated this hoax, whatever her intentions, is in need of help. This is not, in mind, an "understandable" adolescent response to insecurity. I am very worried for the emotional well being of this person. I don't, for one, appreciate having been one of the victims of her "experiment." It was not harmless nor was it a game, except maybe to her. Sadly, this has given me great pause as to whom and to what extent I will be opening up to strangers on the internet in the future. I've always been so trusting by nature and for that reason, my family and friends warned me of the pitfalls of the internet when I got my computer. Now, "alarms," such as this will be viewed with great skepticism and suspicion; I don't like feeling like that.:( Whomever Jessica is, I hope she or he will have the courage to come forward and explain what has transpired. Despite your actions, many here still care for you. Forgiveness is in abundance on Pet Talk. If you needed affirmation that you are loved, well, I guess that has been proven true.
Sandra, God Love You! Unfortunately over the years, I have had cause to be in ICU visiting a friend who later passed away. I remember at the time being so grateful to the nurse who was on duty. She had a way of leveling everything out, if you understand what I mean. You got the feeling that absolutely EVERYTHING was being done for my friend, but at the same time, they were very protective and caring.
Seriously everyone, this is a game gone out of control.
She is a young girl who wanted to perform an experiment. This is not unusual for people that age who suffer from insecurity. She wanted to see if people really cared about her and how they would feel if she died.
Some insecure 14 year old girls think about this kind of thing. Online, she found a perfect outlet to make her experiment.
But I doubt she bargained for the outpouring of hurt she received. She got in over her head and has bailed. Now she comes back in to read.
I don't think she had malicious intent with her hoax. She's young, not mean.
I guess I don't understand why so many people are shocked about this.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Jessica is alive and well and this was her doing, no one else'.
I understand that but it still was a cruel thing to do. People who barely knew her were crying their eyes out and offering comfort to her family.
Perhaps she never meant for it to get so out of control but it did and she should have never done it.
~Rachel
I understand why she would want to try something like this.Im sure she didnt want it to get out of control.I would just be happy if I knew for sure that she was ok.
I really wish we could settle this! I now believe that she is still alive. (Wow this is *kinda* like tupac) I hope that she is and she comes on and tells us....I really want to know! I hope this doesn`t go unanswered!
I agree and it would go a long way to making us feel better if she would just 'fess up' and let us know she is still alive.Quote:
Originally posted by allanimalswelcome
I understand that but it still was a cruel thing to do. People who barely knew her were crying their eyes out and offering comfort to her family.
Perhaps she never meant for it to get so out of control but it did and she should have never done it.
~Rachel
You know she's not gonna do that :rolleyes:
I agree with the others, it would be so much better if we really knew what was going on.
I figure that sooner or later she will post, I mean she has 2000+ posts in six months. She obviously loves posting here and will probably post again.
I have seen this sort of thing happen before, and it gets to be too hard for the poster to refrain from posting. She probably didn't think this through too well, and didn't realize that by posting this story she would be cutting herself off from a place she likes to come to. If she does try and come back under another screen name, I'm sure we would figure it out fast.
I didn't think that Jessica would do this --- Now I admit to having my doubts. From the beginning I wondered if her parents were the ones up to this. At first I was afraid to talk about it -- Now I'm not.
There's too much to doubt, to many doubts if not untruths. I've removed my signature saying goodbye. I guess enough goodbyes have been said. I don't think she's coming back...I wish she would, I would really like to know what is going on....
I've searched and searched all over the internet. I've looked everywhere for any deaths occuring that day. I've found somewhat similar deaths, but nothing like this particular one. It just doesnt make any sense to me.
I was very saddened. And even now, I'm just as sad. Why would anyone lie about such an emotional thing? Nothing here makes sense. I really hope that Karen or someone else can find out if she's really gone or if she's still alive. At this point in time, for me, any news, good or bad, would be a relief if it was only the truth.
I agrre with almost everything Kayann has been saying, just so you all can relize my point of veiw on this.
I would also like to say what a wonderful bunch of people you are all. We all cried for the lose of a loved one, a loved one who none of us had met but she still was a great friend. I find this great, I personally dont' see why "Jessica" would do this to see if she would be missed. I feel loved everytime I sign on to pet talk, just because of teh replys I get to my post or because someone took time out of there day to tell me about there pets. I do however see why she would do this to see is she was really wanted her. Alot of teenagers feel that no one loves that and that if they were to drop of the face of the earth that no one would care, so I can see a little why she might have faked her death to see the respons. I personally think Jessica is alive and I thank god for that, I would rather her be alive then be dead. The heart ach a mother feels when she looses a child is un descriable and I just pray that Jessica's mother didn't have to feel the pain of loosing one of her kids. Or that her brother and sister didn't have to feel the pain of looseing one of there brothers or sisters.
Jessica-
I'm asumming you are reading this thread. I would just like to tell about a recent incounter I've had that I will never forget. While away in South Carolina. (*Every word of this is true I swear on my heart it is)
On our very last day. I got up, did my hair and was in the bathroom with my mom. I heard crying coeming from the other bathroom and deced to go over and comfort what I thought was my sister. I stepped into the bathroom to find my brothers friend Benn balling his eyes out. Why? he was upset because We were leaving Abbye behind and we got to say goodbye to her. He lost his brother 6 months ago in a car accedent. He balled the whole time we said Goodbye becasue he never got to say bye to his brother, he never got to hug his brother one more time. you should have seen the pain in his eyes, the pain in his voice and she shouted at us to tell each other we loved each other. You should have seen the tears rol down his red checks. You should have seen him grip his necklace that had his brother nick name on it. I will never forget this sight and I will never ever take one moment with anyone I love for granted. See, You need to understand that although you don't feel like no one loves you they do. I'm sure if Benn could go back in time he would without a doubt do eveyrthing and anything in his power to have his brother again. I know this seems like just a joke to you, but you need to know that to those who have lost a siblin before, its the worst thing that could ever happen to them and they will never forget, when my motehr was little she went away on vacation with her mom and dad. While they were gone her brother shot himself in the head. She regrets not noticing his pain and helping him through it. She, like Ben, would give anything to go back in time to just say I love you one more time or to hug him. And to this day, she still rembers the lonliness she felt when loosing him, 30 years later She STILL rembers the pain! Your family will never ever forget the pain the feel when they loose you one day. My mother can describe to you the un frogetable pain of having to loose a brother, 30 years later, 30 years later and she still crys every once and while she still rembers baring him she still rembers not ever being able to say goodbye. So please, Jessica, promise me you will never ever ever fake your death again because Death is not a funny thing and it effects everyone around you, I know your family loves you. I know they do.
::Steps Down from Soap Box and gets a tissue::
Ashley
This is exactly what I feel since yesterday. I can understand her closer friends who can't believe or are upset but being also in the older group here I think she must be terribly confused and sorry now -because she destroyed something for herself which meant a lot to her: a place where she could talk about her beloved pets and where she met people who really cared.Quote:
Originally posted by 2kitties
Seriously everyone, this is a game gone out of control.
She is a young girl who wanted to perform an experiment. This is not unusual for people that age who suffer from insecurity. She wanted to see if people really cared about her and how they would feel if she died.
Some insecure 14 year old girls think about this kind of thing. Online, she found a perfect outlet to make her experiment.
But I doubt she bargained for the outpouring of hurt she received. She got in over her head and has bailed. Now she comes back in to read.
I don't think she had malicious intent with her hoax. She's young, not mean.
I guess I don't understand why so many people are shocked about this.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Jessica is alive and well and this was her doing, no one else'.
Jessica: if you read this: you may see there are people here who will be able to forgive you. You have made a mistake -this is what happens in life. But it is in your hands to correct this mistake. Please try.
hmmmm I see she's on again.....
I still stand by my old statement:How could we trust her? How would we know when she was telling the truth?
~Rachel
I have not wanted to post on this either - but I can't help it.......... 1st I thank the person who brought this up. I felt doubts that night but was too chicken to post anything in fear that you would think I was a cold hearted bit_h.
2nd I don't feel it was really. odd that her mother was on the internet (for a few min.) maybe she was waiting for her ride back to the hospital etc.. I have dealt with many deaths in my life personal and at work - reaction was somewhat different each time. What she might have picked up for her daughter could have been religious etc.. I don't know.
I have felt very hurt by this thinking its a death and grieving as you all have - then realize it may be a hoax. No parent in their right mind would "fake their childs death". Who ever has been on line here under her name - if its her mother I think she would have posted something. We don't need to know all the info. but I thought she would have posted when the funeral was etc. It seems more and more lkie a hoax. It may have started out with a friend joking and saying " I type in this and see what they say etc. on a dare etc." Never thinking all the pain it would cause & how fast it got out of hand. And too afraid to speak up.
PLEASE SPEAK UP AND TELL US WHAT HAS HAPPENED - I can forgive.
If she is not dead then she or someone must be hurting - because they know what they have done. And she can post under 10 different names - it will catch up. This also will affect her own homesite and her yahoo email add.
If we don't find out soon maybe Karen can get her phone records from when she talked with her mom (if she did) and call the parents. Or Yahoo can get involved and contact the owner of the computer. Believe its illegal to post that type of info. if not true.
Sorry about spelling
I hope she is alive and well.
I haven't posted on this thread, because I didn't really know what to say. I mean, Jessica and I pmed each other a lot, and we Jewels and Otis were going to be in the couples contest.
Just like sammi said:
felt doubts that night but was too chicken to post anything in fear that you would think I was a cold hearted bit_h
I had my doubts too. I mean I was crying, and I told my mom and she asked me, "Why would her mom be on the computer if her daughter was in ICU?" I just was like, "Her mom was getting some of her things." And my mom said the same thing that some others said, "You don't need to bring anything into ICU." I didn't really know what to say. If this is just a hoax, then I am not too shocked. You never know, it may not even be a fourteen year old girl, but it might be too. I felt horrible for days after the news of Jessica's death. My mom kept telling me that she's more likely to be alive than dead. I didn't really think about it. I just thought.. well I don't really know what I thought exactly. I thougth that maybe I could trust her or something...well, I just wish that we could figure this all out... or I wish that someone would speak up.
I too, hope that Jessica is alive and well.
This is what is SO sad and upsets me so greatly. That so many, sweet, loving, TRUSTING, very special young people have had to suffer this. Their hearts have been broken and they are confused. Just look at the heartbreaking signatures that have been made in tribute to their friend.:( It breaks my heart that such innocent young people had to learn this sad life lesson. I hope and pray that somehow, "Jessica" will find it in her heart to speak to her friends and explain herself.
It seems to me, that if you are someone's friend, you have their home address or phone number. Was Jessica on the Christmas card list? I cannot believe she would not have given out at least what state she lived in...... and if she was so close with so many people, why don't they know more about her? Seems odd to me, in many ways.
It is such a shame no matter how you look at it.
Why would anyone from this site hack into another members account and do something so maliocious? Yes we have disagreements and yes there are some members that just don't get along. But I seriously don't think that there is anyone on Pet Talk that would sink so low as to do such a thing.
Sweetie, I know you're hurt by all this, but you're really grasping at straws. I for one am hoping it is a hoax, so that a young woman will stil be alive, and I know you are too, but I know you don't want to think your friend would do this to you. I'm so sorry, PCB. :( :( :(Quote:
Originally posted by popcornbird
I just thought of something. Its a horrible thought, but I believe its possible.
WHAT IF someone hacked into her account, somehow, and did this? What if her parents and she had no idea? What if she was gone on vacation and a pet sitter did this? I still find it hard to believe Jessica would do such a thing, ever, but we'll see.
Its a scary thought, but what if someone from this site hacked into her account? :(
The thing is, Popcornbird, that suppose it WAS a hack job. Wouldn't she come back and say "hey hey hey I didn't write that!" I know I WOULD! If she truly was innocent, she wouldn't be embarrassed to admit that somebody else took over her account.