Hubby and I are HUGE Romney fans. If this election doesn't go in a desirable route I'm thinking of writing him in on my ballot.Quote:
Originally Posted by cassiesmom
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Hubby and I are HUGE Romney fans. If this election doesn't go in a desirable route I'm thinking of writing him in on my ballot.Quote:
Originally Posted by cassiesmom
Just read this over at CNN -
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Barack Obama's campaign for president has raised $10 million since Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin spoke Wednesday night, the campaign announced, calling it a "one-day record."
Palin, the governor of Alaska, launched harsh attacks on Obama, accusing him of being two-faced and a political lightweight with no significant legislative accomplishments.
"Coverage of the Palin attacks on the news this evening just pushed us over $10 million," Obama spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in an e-mail to reporters Wednesday night.
The Republican Party announced earlier in the day it had raised $1 million in the wake of Palin's speech.
What is that saying about a fool and their money? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
So, are you calling me a fool?Quote:
Originally Posted by Puckstop31
For donating money to a political campaign?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
Errr... I plead the 5th.
I see it akin to paying the idiot tax. (AKA, the lottery.)
These are just my opinions of course.
Barack Obama's campaign for president has raised $10 million since Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin spoke Wednesday night, the campaign announced, calling it a "one-day record."Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
That spells Dem fear to me. They are worried now.
Count me in as another one who has never given a thin dime to a political party and who has no intentions to do so in the future. My son contributed to Ron Paul's campaign so I guess the apple sometimes does fall far from the tree. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Puckstop31
There is the fear factor... But then there is...Quote:
Originally Posted by rosethecopycat
A.) Political Ads annoy me and it is what most of that money is spent on. These ads cater to the lowest common denominator. The voter who can be swayed by a 30 second sound bite. Sad, eh?
B.) I thought the Democratic party was the party of the 'common' man. The 'common' folks have enough money in this (according to the Dems), 'terrible economy' to donate 10 MILLION dollars in one day? Or could it be they are taking money from George Soros type 537 organizations? Or even, *shudder* EVIL corporations?
Whatever... LOL Then there was that line from BO, bragging about how much money he has spent so far... Yeah, not so sure that is something a POTUS candidate should brag about, eh? LOL
Oh boy are you right. Yesterday I spent two hours in the car on a round-trip to see my mom. In that two hour period Obama came on the radio with the same ad 4 times and it made me angry more than anything. A nurse practitioner is the speaker in the ad and she says that McCain's view on abortion will cause pain and possible death to women. HOW ABOUT THE FETUS?? The woman does have a choice. Sorry for being so graphic, but she can choose a "coat hanger" or choose to have the baby and give it up for adoption. Should she die from her own attempt at aborting the baby she has brought it upon herself. The baby has no choice at all. If I hear this ad again I will scream! Oh and my "friend" Nancy Pelosi (thank you for the spelling correction Liz) sees nothing wrong with partial birth abortion. How absolutely evil and barbaric! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Puckstop31
They drive me crazy - especially the robo calls. We got one on Sunday afternoon, from McCain. Give him credit, when I called back the number listed on our caller ID, we were offered a choice - push button #1 and our number would be placed on their do-no-call list.Quote:
Political Ads annoy me and it is what most of that money is spent on.
One down, hopefully none to go.
After the last election I spent lots of time trying to get our names, addresses and phone number removed from the databases of both political parties. So far it appears that only the Democrats got the message.
FYI, I have never donated to any political party. Now my husband is a different matter. He is a regular supporter of the Libertarians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Puckstop31
Memo to Sarah Palin -
Jesus was a community organizer,
Pontius Pilate was a governor.
GHWB was referring to community organizers/workers in his Thousand Points of Light speech all those years.
Without community organizers, this country would be in much worse condition than it currently is.
We dont' receive any calls from anyone. I wonder if it's because we have Vonage and the numbers aren't listed anywhere like the phone book or 411 unless we actually register it ourselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
Makes me happy LOL at least that's one less place I have to be bombarded by it lol
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Originally Posted by Grace
And he got some scars to prove it.
I think that BO is a lawyer first. LOL, I tend to see politicians as homeless people. They sit around with their hands out, living in government subsidized homes and taking free meals from people who think they are helping them.
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LOL, I love the pomposity attached to a statement like that.
"I know, let's say we got 10 million dollars on one day".
"I LIKE MONEY" - Frito Pendejo/Idiocracy.
As my math teachers would say. Show your work. Politicos don't work, they panhandle.
In the years past I have sent Monopoly money to the candidates.
I have to sit down and write an I.O.U. to Obama. McCain will get my Monopoly money this time.
I think your Vonage is keeping you from receiving junk calls. I would seriously think about doing that or using my cell phone exclusively. However, we live at the bottom of a hill in the country, and it's difficult to get a cell down here. Our IP isn't the most reliable - and I would hate to be stuck without any phone.Quote:
Originally Posted by sparks19
Yeah... definitely doesn't sound like a good idea where you are located.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
BO seems to know about redistribution of wealth, I don't think he'd know what to do with an I.O.U.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
I guess he'd tear it up and give it out to people who don't have any I.O.U.'s
P.S. I like money.:p
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Originally Posted by Grace
And here all this time I thought he was talking about "A thousand pints of Lite." ;)
JUST KIDDING!!!
:D
I think it is terribly sad...but terribly typical of the Cons to sneer at someone beginning their career in public service as as community organizer.
They say they don't like big government - but the government has grown bigger every time they are in office. They say they support community-based solutions yet belittle the experince gained there (as if being mayor of a town about the size of the high school I attended is impressive!)
Say one thing...do another...you were expecting something different from this group???
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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Any group ;)
both sides of the coin are equally guilty of this kind of thing. it happens every election year.
Or "Flip Flop" it and think it was a grant to the U.O.I. (University of Illi-annoyed?)Quote:
Originally Posted by rosethecopycat
JM might but another house or a hotel with the monopoly money?;)
Whose the Sekreteri of edukashun?
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AM,
I don't blame him, I'd go on a month long bender as soon as my term was over.:rolleyes:
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What does a community organizer do?
Make sure the houses are all in line?
The house numbers go in order?
Alphabetize the neighbor hood phone directory?
WHat does a senator do?:o
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Some side notes.
Who does that Palin kid belong to? I think John Edwards
What was Cindy McCain wearing under her 30 gazillon dollar outfit?
I vote for bikinis and a nice lace pushup?
Was SP riding a snowmobile outside the marriage?
Why won't Oprah let SP on her show/
LOL, That shows her character. She has BO on her "tribute to all things Winfrey hour" But now she won't have any of the candidates on until after the election. I bet Omarosa Obama gets the call!
Betcha!
JB's war record is amazing!
Does jm talk slow or is it me?
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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Isn't that the truth!?Quote:
Originally Posted by sparks19
It really galls me when The Candidate "promises" to
"(fill in the lame promise)"
* Reduce Taxes
* Increase Programs
* Reduce Spending
* "GIVE" us anything
* and a dozen other hollow 'promises'
Do they REALLY Think that I 'buy' that stuff??
(On second thought, I guess I do *buy that stuff* ---
Every time I pay my Taxes!) :mad:
:p
I wonder how may MILLIONS of votes "NONE of the Above"
would receive if that choice was offered on Election Day?
:rolleyes:
I know lol isn't it funny how all of those things contradict each other. Lower taxes but more programs, reduce spending but give us anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinder & Smoke
WAKE UP PEOPLE... it CAN'T be both lol Nothing is free... it all has to be paid for somehow lol
Technically, We rent, We pay for it every year?:(;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cinder & Smoke
This has long been my argument about GWB. He starts a war and lowers taxes. You cannot fight a war with LESS money.Quote:
Originally Posted by sparks19
So, he borrows the money to pay for it from the Chinese.
Soon the Chinese will own the U.S.
Solid Econ 101 as he likes to say.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
p.s. Many of the expenses for his war are not included in the budget deficit. It would be even LARGER if all the expenses were included.
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Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
Maybe they already do, and no one has told us :eek:
Perhaps... So what is the answer? (I hate that I still have to add the disclaimer, but here goes... I would have replied to ES, but she is still 'ignoring' me. Childish, but what are ya gonna do. I apologized for being a tool.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grace
Seriously, I am certianly no expert in macro-economics, but really, what is the answer to this issue? Sure, we would all like stuff to be "made in the USA". But the facts are this... The cost of US produced goods rarely comes close to that of goods made overseas. Generally, the overseas product is also of superior quality.
What is to blame for that? Unions? Our fat arsed lazy selves? What?
FWIW, I care very much about this issue. I has a great deal to do with my business.
We know the problem, lets hear some solutions. Here are mine.
1.) Limit Labor Unions. Yes, a fair wage should be expected, but $30 an hour to push a button in a steel plant?
2.) Eliminate sales tax on US produced goods.
3.) Education. Lets actually teach our kids real world skills, rather than worry about sex ed and all the nanny state crap.
I've got more, but lets hear yours. :)
I wonder how many Americans realize the government is borrowing money to pay for the Iraqi War?
And that war debt? From whom are we borrowing? Who will our children and grandchildren owe money to? To whom will this country owe?Quote:
The baseline budget numbers alone are mind-numbing: more than $490 billion in federal spending on the Iraq war so far -- including interest on the war debt. That's nearly 10 times the $50 billion the Bush administration originally estimated the war would cost.
The untold story -- one every American needs to hear -- is that the costs of this war go beyond these budget numbers. The Congressional Joint Economic Committee has determined that if the President's 2008 funding request is approved, the full economic cost of the war -- including the economic impact of deficit financing, the future care of our wounded veterans, and disruption in oil markets -- will total $1.3 trillion just by the end of 2008.
That's $16,500 for every family of four. And, if this war continues, that figure could jump to almost $37,000 for a family of four over the next decade.
Sparks19 is right.You cannot lower taxes and make more war!Quote:
Lower taxes but more programs
I was floored by this statement coming from the McCain camp on when
they will "allow" palin to speak to any newsmedia. She wants Americans
to vote her into the 2nd highest office in the country, but she is not
capable of answering any questions? If she's not up to tough political
questions, she should just say so.
Palin Media Avoidance Watch: Day 9 -- McCain Camp Says She Won't Do Interviews Until It Knows She'll Be Treated with "Deference"
September 07, 2008 9:41 AM
Rick Davis, campaign manager for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., just told Fox News Channel's Chris Wallace that McCain running mate Gov. Sarah Palin won't subject herself to any tough questions from reporters "until the point in time when she'll be treated with respect and deference."
Davis assailed the way the media had discussed Palin and her family in the last week and said the campaign would wait until a less hostile media environment.
So when will she subject herself to questions?
"When we think it's time and when she feels comfortable doing it," Davis said, praising a Fox News Channel profile of Palin that ran last night.
Why is she scared of answering questions? Wallace asked.
"She's not scared to answer questions," Davis said, "but you know what? We run our campaign not the news media."
Wallace said inappropriate intrusions into Palin's family and personal life aside, there are legitimate questions about whether she is prepared to be vice president.
"Sarah Palin will have the opportinity to speak to the American people," Davis said. "She will do interviews, but she'll do them on the terms and conditions" the campaign decides.
In fairness, an Alaska TV reporter did get to ask Palin a question Thursday, something along the lines of
"Governor, we feel like we're losing you - are you still going to be there for Alaska?"
- jpt
That's what I've been asking myself recently. You better believe if Obama shut himself off from the press, there would be tougher queries than that one by the Republicans.Quote:
Why is she scared of answering questions? Wallace asked.
From POLITICO -
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Palin agrees to interview
By: Mike Allen
September 7, 2008 02:57 PM EST
Under pressure for being shielded for questioning, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) has a agreed to sit down with Charles Gibson of ABC’s “World News Tonight,” according to an ABC News official.
No other interviews are scheduled. It will be the first TV interview for Palin since she was named 10 days ago as running mate to Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).
Palin had planned to return to Alaska this weekend but is so popular on the stump that she is going to stay out a few more days before returning home. One of her sons deploys to Iraq on Thursday.
Palin plans to sit down with Gibson later this week in Alaska, the source said.
The McCain campaign kept her off Sunday shows this weekend and plans to be sparing with high-risk network encounters, which they contend are unimportant to voters despite the media’s fixation on them.
But McCain officials could see her reticence was feeding the narrative of her being unprepared for the job.
Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware, her counterpart on the Democratic ticket, challenged her Sunday to submit to network questioning.
““She's a smart, tough politician,” Biden told Tom Brokaw in a “Meet the Press” interview live from Wilmington, Del. “So I think she's going to be formidable. Eventually, she's going to have to sit in front of you like I'm doing and have done.
Eventually, she's going to have to answer questions and not be sequestered.
Eventually, she's going to have to answer on the record.”
Oh my word. Pun intended.
The same reason the Bo won't do interviews is not the probably the same reason that SP will not.
But then again, If you ummm and ahhhh a great deal, that may look like you are not prepared or can't answer a question, In SP's case she might not be trusted to keep from pulling out a gun during the convo...
One of the late night talk show hosts did a joke about that...
What is it with VPs and guns, What could possibly go wrong?:p
Wow! :eek::eek: Unless the press tells the story the way they want it told - no interviews. More of the same as we get today!
Unfortunately, digging dirt on candidates and their families is as American as apple pie. Andrew Jackson's marriage to his wife before her divorce was final was a major scandal in its day and a big issue in the campaign. Some say it killed her.
Abraham Lincoln's wife also took a lot of heat from the press. She was from a slave owning family.
Negative press is what drove Nixon to make the famous "Checkers" speech and more recently we had the infamous Swift Boating. Anyone remember some hosility toward Kerry's wife? I can recall some pretty nasty things said about her right here on PetTalk! About her voice, her looks, her money.
I assume they are keeping Palin off the radar to control the message and to train her to talk about something other than mooseburgers.
Pity they don't think her capable of handling the heat.
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Originally Posted by RICHARD
That's odd. I heard Barak Obama being interviewed on one of the Sunday morning talk show this morning. It was a pretty tough interview. And he handled some questions well and some questions not so well.
But he was interviewed.
Or does Bo refer to someone else?
She is being prepped. I read in last night's paper -Quote:
Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary
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Experts Helping Palin Brush Up on Foreign Policy
ST. PAUL, Minn., Sept. 4 -- Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman is among several national security experts helping brief Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin on foreign policy issues as she prepares to hit the campaign trail while cramming for a debate with her Democratic opponent, Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (Del.), in less than a month, according to officials from Sen. John McCain's campaign.
I'm going to take this totally out of context because "flip flop" is one of my latest pet peeves - amongst many others (but I had to read/reply quickly because we're getting to our destination).Quote:
Originally Posted by RICHARD
It's one of my pet peeves because he Republicans made such a big deal about it during the last electrion with Kerry, and they had already started on it in this election with Obama. Then I hear......at first Palin supported the "bridge to nowhere" but then "changed her position" and now she opposes it.
Why is it that when Republicans are speaking, Democrats "flip flop" and Republicans "change their position?"
I just don't understand why it has to be this way? Why can't everyone just realize that politicians - like everyone else in the world - can change their minds as they learn more about and issue/subject? Why must it be put in a negative light (when Democrats are involved) and be labeled as flip flopping instead of being heralded as "Hey, this man/lady must be intelligent. He/she looked into the details of the issue and realized the error of his/her ways?" (as it is when Republicans are involved).
Maybe if flip flopping hadn't been such an issue during the last elections, our fine sitting president (snicker) might not have been such a bull head......oh.....that's a topic for another conversation........:rolleyes:
Oh, and when I first logged onto PT today this topic was the first listed in the Dog House section and after reading the title of the thread, why was I not surprised to see Edwina's Secretary as the last poster to the thread?
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Originally Posted by Tubby & Peanut's Mom
It's so good to hear from you again.:D Hope you're able to pop in
a little more often.:)
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Originally Posted by Tubby & Peanut's Mom
But doesn't "honey, let's change position" sound far more romantic than "honey, let's flip flop" when you are dealing with politicians and who is in bed with them?;)
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008...s-his-critics/
The reason I post this is... NOW context matters? I don't care about BO's religion, but I do care about the press suddenly caring about context. It never mattered before, so why now?
Interesting...
http://www.newsweek.com/id/157986/page/3
Seems to be that a lot of the rumors about Mrs. Palin are FALSE or are taken WAY out of context. Shocker.