Regardless of what the VA DA does, I doubt you'll be seeing Vick in an NFL uni anytime soon, probably never again.
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Regardless of what the VA DA does, I doubt you'll be seeing Vick in an NFL uni anytime soon, probably never again.
link :rolleyes:
This statement of facts makes me ill. I hope they get all the folks involved in this mess. I feel so sick to my stomach. What pond scum.
Interesting article from the sports world. seems this plea is open to
interpretation depending on who reads it.Vick's lawyers tryed to distance
Vick from the gambling charges which could bring a 5yr sentence in federal
prison & get a lifetime ban from the NFL.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...lea/index.html
Goodell's letter to Vick.....
I don't think this piece of pond scum will be back.....
http://assets.espn.go.com/media/pdf/...vickletter.pdf
Good letter, Mr. Goodell!
;)
/cheer!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
Been following along on this.... that letter shows that someone in authority actually has a heart for animals. Yeah!
I was appalled when I heard that some people were actually claiming Vick's conduct was because in the culture he grew up in, dogfighting is acceptable. :mad: If so, then shame on everyone he grew up with. Disgusting.
Actually, his father tried to talk him out of dog-fighting years ago, allegedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyber-sibes
I am glad the NFL has suspended him "indefinitely" and that his team may be able to get some of the money back.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/24...ick/index.html
That's not quite what Vick's father said.......
Story about Vick's dadQuote:
Michael Vick's father said he pushed his son to quit dogfighting years ago or, at least, put property used for the fights in the name of friends to avoid being implicated some day.
I am wondering if he was into dog fighting when he played college football. Whatever happens to him, he still has a much HIGHER AUTHORITY to answer to...and I think that will be far worse punishment for eternity. Just look at his eyes, no soul shows, just like the nurse Cullen that killed people at the hospital where I work. Once a psychopath, always a psychopath...
I was trying to think of something good that could come out of this Vick
case & there are some. One big positive is the public exposure of dogfighting
in this country. It does exist & it needs to be exposed & eradicated wherever
it is found. An article from the Washington Post about this cruel "sport".
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082101997.html
I read in the paper that Nike has dropped Vicks. The NFL has suspended him without pay and are taking this thing very seriously. I hope he gets the book thrown at him!!! :mad:
I've been following this story along, avoiding reading anything too graphic. But I just watched a report on Fox interiviewing the guy from the ASPCA re: dog fighting. That's exactly what he said, too. They also showed film of dogs fighting, and some grisly stills. How anyone can consider that a sport is beyond me. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by lizbud
The interviewer asked "On a scale of 1-10, how bad would you say the Vick situation was?" and he answered "10." He said that the Vick case had an extra degree of sadism (because of how the dogs were killed) far beyond what is already a grisly practice. I wanted to puke when he talked in detail about how these poor dogs were killed. :( :( :(
He also said that dogfighting is becoming more widespread in urban gangs.
NIKE terminated Vick's contract saying something like "we do not condone the mistreatment of animals".
They should have added, "But paying poor people one dollar a day to make our shoes is perfectly OK".
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DMX is in trouble, DMX is in trouble.
Anoter AH turned into the authorities. :rolleyes:
Yea, because jerks like him who some people look up to, promote it. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by cyber-sibes
What medical help does he need? To be neutered? To be lobotomized?
Too bad they won't do to him what he did to those dogs that didn't perform up (or down) to his standards.
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Originally Posted by RICHARD
Don't ask me!Quote:
Originally Posted by phesina
That's what THAT fool said! :eek:
I wish more people would realize that. That this case is doing some good. It's about a lot more than just Vick.
Good for you for looking on the bright side of life. :)
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Originally Posted by lizbud
Lizbud, that is so true and I wish the issue of dogfighting was getting even more media time than it is. I heard on the news this morning that Michael Vick will be appearing in court to enter a plea but it is just a formality to set a date for a sentencing hearing. And that he is on indefinite suspension by the NFL. I wonder if this will send his football career down the tubes. He'll probably make another fortune off of endorsements like Michael Jordan did.
http://www.newsnet5.com/sports/13980417/detail.html
"I take full responsibility for my actions,"
RICHMOND, Va. -- Michael Vick pleaded guilty Monday to a federal dogfighting charge and awaited a Dec. 10 sentencing date that could send the NFL star to prison.
Moments later he spoke publicly about his case for the first time.
"I take full responsibility for my actions," Vick said during a news conference. "I'm totally responsible. Those things just didn't need to happen."
Saying that he was speaking "from the heart," the suspended quarterback apologized for being dishonest about his role in the dogfighting case with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, Falcons owner Arthur Blank and his Falcons teammates.
He also apologized to his young fans around the world, saying that he hopes all of the children who viewed him as a role model will use him as an example of how to use better judgement and make better decisions.
The suspended quarterback admitted he needed "to grow up" and is ready to use his time off from football to better himself.
"In a sense it will help me as a person," Vick said. "I've got a lot to think about over the next year or so."
In the court room earlier, Vick's plea was accepted by U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson, who asked: "Are you entering the plea of guilty to a conspiracy charge because you are in fact guilty?"
Vick replied, "Yes, sir."
Hudson emphasized he is not bound by sentencing guidelines and can impose the maximum sentence of up to five years in prison. The judge told the suspended passer that he was taking his chances and that he'll have to live with whatever decision he makes.
In Vick's written plea agreement filed in federal court Friday, he admitted helping kill six to eight pit bulls and supplying money for gambling on the fights. He said he did not personally place any bets or share in any winnings.
The plea agreement calls for a sentencing range of 12 to 18 months. But Hudson could sentence Vick to as much as five years in prison.
With Vick's sentencing date pending, the Atlanta Falcons commented on their team's situation Monday.
Blank said the team will not yet cut Vick from its roster, that it wasn't in the best interest of the franchise. But the team will discuss its options, and it will pursue getting repaid for bonuses that were given to Vick.
The owner's main focus was moving forward.
"I recognize this situation has tarnished our team," Blank said. "We cannot undo what is done. But we can recover from this."
The NFL on Friday suspended him indefinitely.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said Vick's behavior was illegal, cruel and reprehensible, and violated his contract.
"Even if you personally did not place bets, as you contend, your actions in funding the betting and your association with illegal gambling both violate the terms of your NFL Player Contract and expose you to corrupting influences in derogation of one of the most fundamental responsibilities of an NFL player," Goodell said in a statement.
It's good that he admits his guilt now and says he's sorry to the little kids that looked up to him.. blah blah... but he never said he was sorry for killing those dogs or for sending countless dogs to their death in the pit. :mad:
Already there are cases in the news where DFing rings are being busted up.
A few days ago there was a story in the news about these guys use kittens to get the dogs to fight.
If DFing was underground before, it's going to the core of the earth now.
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I gots the feeling that there are going to be a few more famous casualties in this war against animal abuse.
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Just a little side thought.
Lately there is a commercial about drunk drivers that is getting heavy airplay.
It shows a drunk in a car and he's up to his neck in booze. When he gets pulled over by a cop he rolls down the window and the booze pours out.
With the news that there will be public service announcements about animal abuse-how effective will they be when Hollywood skanks get a slap on the wrist and if the Vickster gets the same?
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Thank goodness that he found Jesus, too.
It's great how the Big Man steps in when we need him, AFTER THE FACT!
http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah6563.shtml
Jamie Foxx SUPPORTS Vick's dog fighting (or supports it by giving him excuses for his behavior) by basically stating
UMMMMM WHAT?!?!Quote:
It’s a cultural thing, I think,” Jamie said. “Most brothers didn’t know that, you know. I used to see dogs fighting in the neighborhood all the time. I didn’t know that was Fed time. So, mike probably just didn’t read his handbook on what not to do as a black star."
Since when is cruelty to animals a CULTURAL thing?!?!
:mad::mad::mad::mad:
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Originally Posted by Jessika
Like I said before.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyber-sibes
I am sure many many members of the black community would NOT want to be lumped into the same 'culture' as Vick and these other 'social commentators'...sheesh...
[QUOTE=RICHARD]...If DFing was underground before, it's going to the core of the earth now......
and may those flames be very very hot
It strange how convicted felons get religion once the hammer drops. :rolleyes: I was very disappointed that the Falcons said they want
to wait & see about having to cut him from the team. That should have been
their first move on conviction.
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Originally Posted by lizbud
If they cancel the contract they have no way to get the money back from the contract that Vick will default on because of the case.
If Vick don't play, he violates his part of the deal.
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This thought comes from a letter I say in the local fishwrap.
Let vick play!
Any "underperformance" by Vick in a game will be dealt with in the same manner he treated those dogs.
I liked what this guy had to say about muzzling Vick & his view of Vick's
use of the word immature as an excuse for his behavior.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
I am sad about this whole situation. I think it is sad that Michael Vick let down so many people. From my understanding, after becomming filthy rich he stayed in touch with his old friends from a bad area and they were the ones running the dog fighting ring. If thats how it happened, i'm disappointed he wasn't able to know right from wrong.
I'm sad that a professional NFL athlete is once again being sent to prison. It makes the league look bad. I'm sad dogs are used like this. I know for sure there are amateur dog fights every night in this country. Not all sponsored by millionaires, but definitely small ones run by small time street gangs. Its a shame.
http://www.ceosmack.com/2007/08/27/a...million-bonus/
It's all about the Benjamin's, don't you know?
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Originally Posted by dukedogsmom
You have to remember that Blank invested more than 100 mil on Vick.
This sounds stupid but a contract is a promise that you will perform a service for the person that invests in you.
Vick signed a contract saying that he would play for the Falcons for the time of the contract. There are conditions in that contract that he must abide by.
For example.
You get a contractor to roof your house and pay him a deposit.
Your roof is stripped and he splits without finishing the job.
Football isn't a roofing job, but you do expect a contract to be honored.
Dead president run the world! :eek:
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Stephen A. Smith, a sports writer who is black, made a comment about how Vick will get screwed because he is being tried in Virginia....
When another commentator asked him is his comments were race based, he said, "Yes."
Then he said he never mentioned race.
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If you listen to more than the 'news' you'll see that Vick's dad told him to cool it, then suggested if he was to continue, that he get a property in someone else's name to deflect any blame should his DFing be found out.
Also there are reports that when he was still in college, his goal was to get a place where he could raise and fight dogs.
All this was reported on ESPN radio.
I liked this editorial comment on Vick too.
How about never?
August 28, 2007
The National Football League has seen its share of bad behavior over the years. Paul Hornung and Alex Karras were suspended in 1963 for betting on games. Rae Carruth was found guilty in 2001 of conspiring to kill his girlfriend.
Tank Johnson's former neighbors in Gurnee have had more peace since the one-time Chicago Bear pleaded guilty to a weapons charge. Police raided his home and took two assault-style rifles, a .50-caliber handgun, three other guns and more than 500 rounds of ammunition.
O.J. Simpson, well, let's just note that he was retired from the NFL long before he took to racing Ford Broncos on California freeways.
And now there's Michael Vick, the Atlanta Falcons quarterback who formally pleaded guilty Monday to a federal dogfighting conspiracy charge. Vick apologized on Monday ... for everything and anything, it seemed. "First I want to apologize for all the things that I've done and that I have allowed to happen," he said.
Pretty sweeping, as mea culpas go. So maybe that was intended to cover the time last year when he gave the hometown Atlanta fans the finger when they booed him. Maybe it included the mysterious water bottle with a hidden compartment that was taken from Vick at Miami International Airport in January. They could fall under "all the things ..."
Aside from the vile operation of a dogfighting business, the thing that might come back to haunt Vick the most is that he lied when NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell asked him in April if there were any truth to the allegations. No, he told Goodell. "I love dogs." Now he admits that he lied to Goodell.
Vick faces 1 to 5 years in prison. He will be sentenced on Dec. 10. Already there is speculation about when he might return to professional football. How about never?
I think his apology was heartfelt.
Bull crap.
Are sports reporters that stupid to believe that Vick's apology sans scripted words was heartfelt?
He lied to the NFL commish, Falcon's owner and the court without a script, so what makes you think he was telling the truth this time?
For me, the only difference between a 'scripted' and 'heartfelt' apology is I'd need the my glasses to read the BS that I wrote down.
I'll start to believe his sorry arse when I hear he has donated some time to a shelter, a few bucks and shows up in church-without a camera crew in tow, and even then I'd have a hard time swallowing that.
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Charles Barkley, former NBA player and current announcer for the Turner Network did criticize Vick for his problems.
Kudos to the "Round Mound of Rebound" - Usually he is on the side of the athletes and always has had a barbed tongue. I never liked him before, but now I have to say that I admire him for his stance on Vick!
When I saw Vick give his statement, I could not get over how flat his affect was!!! No emotion at all!!! Eyes empty!!! Words empty!!! You tend to notice things like this after you have worked on a psyck unit....
I think the only reason the bastard is sorry is because he got caught.
I agree!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jadapit
I hope he never plays football again. I think he should do a MASSIVE amount of community service working with animal shelters and give an equally massive donation to a good dog rescue program. Just like Tank Johnson he tried to hide behind the "I'm young and I can't handle my wealth and fame" defense.
Edited to add: I just had a thought - I vote we have him neutered. With no anesthesia.
MV cancelled a talk show appearance today.
His handlers thought that it was a bad idea.
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On another sports talk show it was suggested that MV should get on the Oprah show, "sit on the couch, cry and ask for forgiveness".
Wanna bet that it comes to pass?
I agree 100%!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jadapit
I want to hear him say "I'm sorry for killing those dogs and sending countless others to their death in the fighting pit"
But that will never happen because the low life worthless piece of CRAP isn't sorry and if he knew he wouldn't be caught, he'd do it again!