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We here care about animals. In my opinion, I think what your doing to Cricket is uncalled for. She doesn't NEED to have puppies. There are too many dogs in the world, and your adding to the population. If you really cared for and loved your dogs, you would get them fixed.
I'm sticking with what I said/am saying. Really, we are just trying to get what's best for the dog. YOU NEED TO GET HER SPAYED That's the main thing here. 3 1/2 is WAY too young to already have had 6 litters.
I'm not even going to start again because I'll just said what's already been said. I sick with my opionion.
I dont think you understand S;aveto9dogs, Crickit, she is in her teend, she should have only JUST had her first litter if you were responsible breeder, you would know.
I dont think you and your family shoule breed dogs because you arnt doing itfor the right reasons, and you dont seem to understand that WE as dog lovers, care about the well being of every dog here.
Well said, Jordan. I would give up all 3 of my sweet babies, if it would mean that there would be no more mistreated, unloved, dumped, beaten or ignored dogs in the world.Quote:
Originally posted by wolfsoul
I know that you're saying that if there weren't irresponisble breeders, some of our dogs wouldn't be here today. I wouldn't trade Timber for the world. BUT if not having her meant that there wouldn't be any BYBs or puppy mills or poor doggies in shelters, than it would be worth it. The millions of dogs that die each year in shelters and puppy mills are millions of lives, and are more important to stop than my ownership and friendship to Timber. That's how I look at it.
Chester came from someone just like you. A BYB. Chester has numerous health problems. Allergies, pancreatitis, various other illnesses, though he extremely smart. Badly bred, but a one in a million friend to me.
Millie we adopted from the Animal Rescue Klub, who I now volunteer for. I help SAVE dogs, I don't breed them. Millie had at least 3 other homes that we know of, maybe more. Someone bred or let a litter happen by accident, and the results of that are my little unwanted angel. I wonder if her siblings found good homes? I'm sure her mothers owners thought they all found good homes, but Millie didn't until us. She's only 4 yrs old.
Aneko was found living in a cage at the vets office. She's very old and I know nothing about her. I hope she was a very loved member of a family once, as she is now.
Please just stop. I would hate to be constantly pregnant. Yeah, she's happy that way. Sure. Keep kidding yourself.
Ditto!:)Quote:
Originally posted by GoldenRetrLuver
Its great that the pup is okay. Now, its time to get Cricket spayed!
Ok, I just want to say that I'm glad that the puppy and Cricket are ok, but you really need to stop breeding her and get her spayed. It's best for her.
NO responsible breeder would ever breed their dogs every heat cycle, since their first heat cycle. And no breeder breeds for money, if you were responsibly breeding there is no way you could make money. You are just contributing to the millions of animals abadoned each day.
Both of my dogs are the result of people like you.
We got Pepper through Doberman rescue, his owners could no longer handle him. He had been to 2 previous homes, being returned each time. Since his breeder obviosly did not take the dog back, odds are he was from a byb. And he has the albine/white gene(he came with papers and you can tell if they have the white gene b/c they will have a "Z' in their registraion number) no responsible breeder would breed a dog with the white gene(one of his parents also had the white gene) as they can have a multitude of health problems
Honey came from a Pet shop. (When we got her i didn't know about puppy mills, bybs etc:o) She probably came from a puppy mill where her parents are probably still there, being bred over and over until they die:mad: :( :mad:
Well said Tikeyas Mom. :) Imagine yourself being pregnant from the time you were a baby until now. Having trouble? Sure, humans are lucky they can decide for themselves! Your poor dog can't. Unfortunately, she has absolute idiots making the decision for her. Imagine yourself having a kid when you, yourself, were still a child! Not a pretty picture. Get the point?!Quote:
I dont think you understand S;aveto9dogs, Crickit, she is in her teend, she should have only JUST had her first litter if you were responsible breeder, you would know.
Normally I wouldn't be this rude about the whole thing, but even after hearing it from everyone else and reading all the GREAT information that everyone took the time to find and supply for you (for the well-being of Cricket and dogs all over the world) you still don't get what is so wrong with what you and your family are doing! That is no business. That's littering, and it's littering at its worst.
({My thoughts and prayers will remain with Cricket})
Ok, at first you said you weren't a breeder, and now you say you are a "responsible" breeder.. so what are you? We probably all know that you love your dog to death, but show her that you do, by getting her spayed. I am happy that your puppy is healthy, but if you want crikit to stay healthy, you should really get her spayed. I want to see some pics, but I am still mad because of your actions. 6 litters for a 3 1/2 year old dog is too much. That's all I'm saying for now.
I haven't heard one resposible thing yet! :( You say that we are wrong, that we don't know what we are talking about. If the majority of us is telling you that what is happening is wrong, than chances are, it is. One person against everybody isn't good chances. I'm sorry that you have to hear such harsh words, but they are words of truth.Quote:
Originally posted by SlaveTo9Dogs
We are responsible breeders.
You say resposible. I hear: Breeding in the first heat cycle, usually about 6 months. That's a puppy. 6 months in human years is 10 and a half years old! Would you let your 10.5 year old child have children, because she "likes babies?" Now a good breeder would wait until 2 years, which in human years is 24. [Contrary to popular belief, a dog's year is not 7 times a human year. It is only an average that gets closer to 7 as the dog gets older].
Then, letting the dog have puppies twice a year. How would you like to have a baby every time you get a chance? (Which, when you have no choice, like a dog, would be alot).
Not taking the dog to the vet when complications arised. Maybe they didn't seem severe, but it could have gotten that way. Instead you take them to a friend's who "knows everything about breeding." If they know everything, and you don't, why are you the breeder and not them?
Not caring if your dog gets diseases from so many pups. Just like humans, there are illnesses that come from giving birth. In Cricket's case, it's much much worse considering her lack of rest (should be atleast a year of rest), her lack of being able to get fit and healthy and recover from the terrible pain of having puppies and laying around all day caring for them, her improper bone development from having pups too young, and so on and so on etc. I'm sure that if I looked it up, I could find hundreds of complications that Cricket can now suffer from.
That one hits me hardest is that you just don't care. You may love your dog, but you obviously have no concern for her health if this is what she has to go through constantly. You may love her, but if you love her than you should atleast respect her. Hell, if I had to give birth to so many babies I wouldn't just be respected for my tolerance, I'd be feared because I'd be one p*ssed off and sad person. If you look at all of the teens nowadays that get pregnant, you will find they have many behavioural problems before and even sometimes after giving birth. With young dogs, it's the same, only they get problems after the pups come. It's just so terrible that your parents have brought you up to believe that constantly letting a dog breed is okay. It's even more sad that you are now old enough to know better and yet choose not to care.
You sure know how to put it Jordan.;)
Now read that 10 times, and see if it sticks.:rolleyes:
I have nothing new to add...everyone else has said what needs to be said and still you can not see that you are doing anything wrong, so why bother.
I will tell you where my dogs came from...
Sadie is a lab/dalmation cross. Her mom was a purebred dalmation who as not spayed, and then when, she got pregant by the same owner's lab, he was going to shot her, beucase he didn't like the way she was acting...maybe if he had fixed at least one of his dogs, she wouldn't have been acting that way!!! Thank doG his neighbor took patches in and found good homes for all 11 of her pups.
Cincy was the 2nd littler of a lab mix. She was a farm dog, that they never bothered to spay, and who was "knocked" up by whatever dog came 'round. When we got Cincy, she had been taken away from mom at 5 weeks, she was living in a chicken coup, had ticks in her ear, and a bloated belly and diharrea. We went to see her with the intent to leave her with mom til 8 weeks, but relaized she may not live that long if we did!
Spot came from a kill shletr in Southern Ohio. He was litterally on the table, ready to be euth. The girls at the shleter couldn't do it, and so they gave her ONE more day to find him a home. If another member of PT hadn't gone out her way to make a bunch of phone calls, he would have died....
Say what you want to say it steel wont change anything. Ok get the pictue!!!:( Sorry;)
P.S. I dont realy care ware all your dogs came from. Ok. Yeah yeah yeah I know iresponsible BREEDERS! Just like us. Yeah we byb, OK you happy now!? HaHaHaaaa
If you don't like us here, don't like or agree with what we're saying, and think we're all mean and hateful and apparently "stupid", WHY DO YOU STILL COME HERE? :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by SlaveTo9Dogs
Say what you want to say it steel wont change anything. Ok get the pictue!!!:( Sorry;)
One final word: spellchecker!