Oh Great! ALL the "Donation to Roxyluvsme13" threads have been DELETED!

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Instead of donating to the person -- get the vet information.
Mail the check directly to the vet.
Specify it is to be used for so-in-so's account.
That way, there will be no question as to how the money is spend.

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That IS what was done in this case ...
We had a Trusted Pet Talker in the US that served as The Banker ...
Donations went to her and then SHE took care of sending the money directly to The Vet.

There have been a few "errors" in some of the posts here - None (or VERY little)
of the Pet Talk Donated money was spent for anything other than the Pets' direct Vet care.
The Objections to money being poorly spent come from the fact that the OWNERS chose
to spend THEIR money on THEMSELVES, and not on the Pets' Vet Needs.

The Owners' "personal spending" was for things that some of us felt were not
nearly as important as the Pets' Vet Needs.

;)

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Originally Posted by kuhio98

I think a good guideline for all of us who try to help in these situations is that instead of donating to the person -- get the vet information. Mail the check directly to the vet. Specify it is to be used for so-in-so's account. That way, there will be no question as to how the money is spend.

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That's what was done for Bri. Catty1 researched it very thoroughly and a Pay Pal account was even set up. It's my understanding that the Pay Pal account is still active and the only thing standing between Bri's pets and the veterinary care they need is financing.

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Begging for Money, without there being a really good and well documented reason

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There were four really good reasons. One of which has been taken care of. Which brings me back to my original question: The balance in the fund is at $20 and nothing further can be done for Bri's pets until the finances are available? Correct? If there are not going to be any more donors, what happens to the monies in the account currently?

Okay I haven't read thru all the posts, but I have to clear something up involving the $90 outfit. She got $106 for her birthday, from her mom, dad and Grandpa. She told me she wanted to use the money to get Lily spayed but her mother wouldn't let her 'waste' her birthday money on her animals. Her Mom got mad that she (Bri) wanted to get her bettas a new tank. So I'm sure Bri wanted to help Lily and Skye to get spayed, but her mother wouldn't allow it.

I know many people have PMed Bri and haven't gotten a reply, and I have yet to see Bri online either. I won't say anything more until I get her consent. I don't think she'll appreciate it if I went around telling part of her life.

That's all well and good if that's the truth, but in that case, since her mother won't "allow" her to use her birthday money on the animals, and her mother will not pay for the animals, then for the sake of the animals they need to be rehomed to someone who will put their needs above human wants and get them proper care, rather than continuing down this path. If this is all true then the pets need to come first, not Briana's wants and desire to have them. They are NOT coming first, they are not getting adequate care. The money IS there, it's just not being used appropriately for whatever reason. You can make all the excuses you like for her, it does not change the fact that if they cannot or will not provide proper medical care for so many pets, then some or all need to be rehomed to allow for proper care.

Yeah that sucks, but sometimes doing the right thing for the animals sucks for us. This is not a sudden emergency, this is routine care that people need to do for animals they bring into their lives. It didn't come out of nowhere and if they can afford cell phones, new cameras, birthday money, cigarettes, eating fast food often as Briana has claimed, and rental of a computer, as well as internet, they could have set aside 5-10 dollars a month for the animal needs. If her mom does not WANT to care for the animals, they need to go to a home that will.

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Originally Posted by Vela

, birthday money, cigarettes, eating fast food often as Briana has claimed, and rental of a computer, as well as internet, they could have set aside 5-10 dollars a month for the animal needs. If her mom does not WANT to care for the animals, they need to go to a home that will.

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that is a good point -
b/c Bri stated herself that her mom smoked.
I'd bet her mom always has money for cigs even when she can't afford the electric bill.
Kuhio- actually way back when this whole thing started - Bri asked for cash or checks to be sent to her for spaying of the animals. That would be a red flag for me sending a check to a 14 year old. B/c then right after she asked for that - she went to see Pirates of the Caribbean like 2-3 times in a weekend.
Now I just went to the matinee 2 weeks - ago - and it was $5.50 so even @ $5 for tickets- it would still have been $10-15 for the movies altogether - not to mention anything to eat or drink (which I do not know if she did)
that is when the paypal acct was set up.

ok - phred - you've beat this horse dead a couple times over -
time to move on before Karen gets fed up with us and deletes this one.

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Originally Posted by Vela

That's all well and good if that's the truth, but in that case, since her mother won't "allow" her to use her birthday money on the animals, and her mother will not pay for the animals, then for the sake of the animals they need to be rehomed to someone who will put their needs above human wants and get them proper care, rather than continuing down this path. If this is all true then the pets need to come first, not Briana's wants and desire to have them. They are NOT coming first, they are not getting adequate care. The money IS there, it's just not being used appropriately for whatever reason. You can make all the excuses you like for her, it does not change the fact that if they cannot or will not provide proper medical care for so many pets, then some or all need to be rehomed to allow for proper care.

Yeah that sucks, but sometimes doing the right thing for the animals sucks for us. This is not a sudden emergency, this is routine care that people need to do for animals they bring into their lives. It didn't come out of nowhere and if they can afford cell phones, new cameras, birthday money, cigarettes, eating fast food often as Briana has claimed, and rental of a computer, as well as internet, they could have set aside 5-10 dollars a month for the animal needs. If her mom does not WANT to care for the animals, they need to go to a home that will.

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I agree to your whole post, good way of wording it.


But, simply like Vela said if her mom doesn't want to spend money on the animals or Bri have her spend money on them they should rehome them.

I feel bad for all the people who donated their hard earned money to Bri, while she out getting things she doesn't have to have with the money she suppously didn't have :rolleyes:

It seems like a scam to me when she asked for money directly then when she didn't get that and it went to the vets office there were many excuses for not calling to set things up...I get up at 11, I don't have a phone, my mom doesn't let me use my cell phone for anything other than emergenies...blah blah blah

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ok - phred - you've beat this horse dead a couple times over -

time to move on before Karen gets fed up with us and deletes this one.

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HUH?

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I'm "flogging a dead horse" ??

I was ready to give it up a few posts ago ...
I've been correcting erroneous statements and urging CALM ...

I Was at 8, now 9, posts out of 82 = 10% by me.

(Sorry to hog my thread.)


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Briana, although some of you may not agree, this thread could be an opportunity for you to learn from the opinions and feelings expressed here if you open up your heart and your mind to how others view some of your actions and attitudes. In a way this is the real world and it's not that different from the one you are going to live in and be accountable in. No, you may not agree with how your actions have been interpreted, but if you give it some serious thought instead of a knee jerk reaction, maybe you will be able to understand the perspectives of others.

Briana you have been given a lot of consideration, time, effort and concern by many wonderful caring people on this board. I hope you understand just how special that is. I hope you can appreciate how many people have reached out to you over the years in various ways. Please read the posts, positive and negative and see the truth that lies in both.

Phred, I don't like the deleting of threads either. To me that is equivalent to *deleting means never having to say you're sorry*, which in many cases would mean a lot to some of us.

Perhaps Animal Control in Bri's city should be notified? Lack of proper care?

Lack of rabies vaccines and therefore licenses is certainly a big deal

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Originally Posted by Catty1

Perhaps Animal Control in Bri's city should be notified? Lack of proper care?

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Even if anybody could do that, AC can't do anything if the animals have food, water, and shelter. Which is evident they all do..but it's just not good enough care in my eyes.

When you ask for money from other people you open yourself up for scrutiny.

Finally you all are seeing what I've been saying since this whole donation thing started..and now her "friends" are finally realising how she treats her animals too. Oh and yes she cares soo much for those animals seeing as a couple months ago she was going to get rid of Gizzy and even though Skye is her "heart cat" she was ready to give her up too because her mom said if she did she could get another small dog. Well of course she wanted to just drop the cats off at a shelter not even find them a home.

Her whole family treats animals poorly, her dad has dogs chained up outside too from what I was told before by her.

I hope they get re homed or that someone calls AC and gets them re homed. Isn't it illegal to not have rabies shots?

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Originally Posted by Catty1

Family services (Bri?)

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Do you have a reason for suggesting that Family Services be contacted? IF you have verifiable information you should certainly contact the appropriate authority. If you do not, suggesting such a thing on a public board may not be a wise thing to do. As we have learned anyone can not only read these threads but use them for other sources.