Do you approve?

No, I do not find the idea of gay marriages "disgusting." I am friends with many homesexual young gentlement, and you'd never meet anyone more pleasant! Let me ask you this - how many gay gentlement commit sexual murder or acts of terrorism? As opposed to straight gentlement who consider themselves to be in some way religious?

So what am I "disgusted" by?

I am disgusted by the puritanical stance that religious people take when it comes to judging the choices and decisions that others make.

I totally agree with 2kitties, whose arguments are always lucid and sensitive, on the point that consenting adults may do what ever they like as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. And I am not refering to other people's "sensitivities" and prudish beliefs either. This, therefore, rules out paedophilia, siblings reproducing, murder, rape and anything else that would cause hurt to others.

But not gay marriage.

Last night, I went to see "Passion" which highlighted (in no uncertain terms!!) what Jesus went through. Jesus was tortured and crucified because the Jews had judged him to be a "heretic" and a dangerous lunatic, and decided that this was worthy of the highest punishment of them all. Jesus, himself, always said "cast not the first stone." If you are religious, then is it not God's place to judge others, not yours?

What really highlighted the hypocrosy of many Christians was the fact that I was in a theatre full of them (they'd booked out the whole theatre) and yet no one introduced themselves to us, no one exhibited any kindness to us. Later, in talking to some of them, I mentioned that Scott and I lived together and you should have seen the ripple of judgment that passed over their sweet, innocent faces. It was disgusting.

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Originally posted by IttyBittyKitty
What really highlighted the hypocrosy of many Christians was the fact that I was in a theatre full of them (they'd booked out the whole theatre) and yet no one introduced themselves to us, no one exhibited any kindness to us. Later, in talking to some of them, I mentioned that Scott and I lived together and you should have seen the ripple of judgment that passed over their sweet, innocent faces. It was disgusting.

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Please don't think we're all like that. We're not. I'm not, though my inlaws are and I can't stand to be around them and hear thethings they say about others. :( I'm always so disappointed to hear a story like yours about Christians. I guess I'm an usual Christian in that I've sinned most of the sins that many others look down thier noses at. I'm sure there are even more that I will sin.

I know God loves me for me, not for who I pretend to be every Sunday. Nor does he love me more than you because I'm married. :rolleyes: It does get old.

For the longest time I stopped telling people I was a Christian because I got a lot of those ripples of judgement myself. :(

micki: I have to admit that for awhile I went through a "Christianity BAD" stage after a series of conflicts with one groups of people. Then I met the president of the Christian club at my school....

He was asking a man to leave our campus. The man had come in, stood on our fountain and started preaching about Christianity. We were all fine with this, until he started to speak badly about homosexuals and talking about "burning the fag flag". At that point, myself and one of my (gay) friends went to the campus police.

The campus police wouldn't do anything about it, but the president of our Christian club overheard, walked out, and asked him to leave. "The Christian club on this campus wants to be non-judgemental and non-obtrusive, and you are disrupting that, so please leave". The man didn't leave, but I immediately stopped generalizing. I even went to a Christian club meeting, just to see if what he had said was true, and I was very impressed by what I found.

Now that I've gone off on a long tangent that has nothing to do with the original topic, I'll be quiet. :)

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Originally posted by popcornbird
the act of homosexuality disgusts me. Its something I cannot accept, just as I cannot accept marriage between close blood relatives.

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Here's a tip!

Look at people for who they are.
Don't look past their bedroom door and you'll see that they really aren't that much different than you and I.

I have always wondered why people obsess about what people do in the dark.

I have more of a problem with people standing outside a bedroom window, on tiptoes, trying to figure out what's going on inside....there's only one reason they are out there.....and that is to satisfy their curiosity.

From there, they can be totally shocked and gain ammo for their fight against what goes on, or get their jollies from the view....

But what it comes down to is why are people checking up on someone elses life, especially in the bedroom...

I approve.. 100% of gay marriages! It's there buisness why should *anyone* be allowed to say if it's right or not.. It's who you love.. Opposition to opening up civil marriage has mostly come from the church and from Christian political parties. They claim on biblical and other moral grounds that the institution of marriage is only meant to be the union of a man and a woman. That of course is a matter of belief and you can't really argue with that, but it is incompatible with the notion of equal rights.. Many people continue to believe that homosexuality is about nothing but sex, considering it to be merely a sexual perversion. The reality is that homosexuality is multidimensional, and is much more about love and affection than it is about sex. And this is what gay relationships are based on -- mutual attraction, love and affection. Sex is a means of expressing that love, just the same as it is for heterosexuals. Being gay is much more profound than simply a sexual relationship; being gay is part of that person's core indentity, and goes right the very center of his being. It's like being black in a society of whites, or a blonde European in a nation of black-haired Asians. Yes, being gay is just that profound to the person who is.

If i was in love, with another woman, nothing and no one would stop me.. Those of you who are against it, what if this happened to you, where you were in love with someone of the same sex? Would you call your self a disgrace to god, would you really be sinning? I mean, i guess if you were in the postion yourself, the tables would surely be turned.

Could some of you who oppose of this give a few good reasons?

I mean, look at wolfchan's signature. Marriage is love. I don't think that a law should be able to keep two people from showing their love for one another in marriage. It is not like you can help if you love someone that is the same sex as you.

Twisterdog, that was very well said!(on the previous page)