she THOUGHT her daughter was with the nanny for 31 days? LOL ok
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she THOUGHT her daughter was with the nanny for 31 days? LOL ok
Just saw on the news how Casey was found "not guilty" on all charges. I was left speechless. No wonder crime and child abuse is so rampant today..parents get away with murder (literally)
She was found guilty of 4 counts of lying to the authorities. Whoever is reporting she was cleared of all charges is wrong, and misreporting the case.
This makes me want to vomit.......................
That poor little girl, murdered by the one person in the world she trusted most, loved most.
She is a female OJ. And perhaps like him she also will not be able to stay out of trouble.
I don't believe in Karma. I believe in the here and now.
If Karma was true then please tell me what this little girl did to deserve her fate.
Honestly, what's done is done. The verdict is in and cannot be changed.
My question is, even if this whole thing was an accident, why couldn't she just have admitted to her mistake? Why would you go out and party and get a tattoo right after your daughter died? Why would the grandparents not question this? I am so confused as to that. I don't get how a rational person can do any of that.
Either way, she's screwed for life, I think. I feel like she will never be safe, wherever she goes. She broke up her whole family over this, as crazy as they seemed before all this, imagine how they are now. I think that's what pains me the most. Not only did she ruin poor Caylee's life with either her selfishness or her stupidity, she also ruined her family.
Honestly, I don't know what I believe at this point. I don't think we'll ever know what truly happened.
Just goes to show you CAN get away with murder. But look at OJ, in jail now because he just couldn't control his evil ways. I'm a firm believer in what goes around, comes around. Tick Tock....
I just heard that the family said they can get on with their lives.. that this is closure. That's nice.:mad:
Somehow I don't think she will be living the good life.. She's going to have a hard time finding friends, I bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces
Exactly! A whole family left in ruins. Don't know how true it is, since I heard it reported on HLN last night, but Cindy and George are getting death threats. I can't even listen to any of it anymore - it actually makes me nauseous. I really couldn't even sleep well last night - kept waking up with this mess on my mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alysser
What a horrible miscarriage of justice - IMO. One can smack their kid on the rear and maybe leave a little mark, and end up in jail for it, and Casey can kill her daughter (most likely) and walk away from the charge, scot free. Unbelievable..........
Her life and the life of her parents will NEVER be the same. I can bet they'll have to go "under cover".
Suppose the child's death WAS an accident, either by Casey's hand or in the swimming pool. What and why did she do what she did with the child's body? Are there no charges for disposing of a body like was done with Caylee? They probably can't prove who disposed of the body. Yikes. Sounds like the detectives need a brush up course in investigations. I think the police fell really short, especially when not investigating the finding of the body in August.
Oh well, let this be a lesson to all of us. She got off with spending three years in jail.
I just heard that she has told someone (???) that the first thing she wants to do is to have another baby.
I hope the child welfare folks watch her like a hawk.
It's over, let's get back to sleep at nights. I, too, didn't sleep well last night. Kept thinking about Caylee etc. I didn't even follow the case that closely. Some people ate, slept and drank it.
Life goes on for all of us. We're lucky.
The morning newscaster referred to a letter she wrote about a year ago saying that if she gets out of jail, the first thing she's going to do is get pregnant and have another baby. WONDERFUL.
I think there's a really good case to be made for sterilizing some people.
By the way, who is Caylee's father, or is that known? And where has he been through all of this?
The father is unknown. She claims that he died in an accident but he was never proven to be the father. Given how she lies, who could believe her anyhow?Quote:
Originally Posted by phesina
Her life won't be worth a plug nickel after all of this. Where is she going to go? Back to her parents? How could they possibly want her back after what has transpired? And if they did want her back, how could they possibly live together? Who is going to hire her and what job skills does she have anyhow? She'll need a bodyguard for a loooong time and her life won't be her own. She'll never really be "free" just as OJ wasn't really free before his most recent conviction and prison sentence.
Maybe it's just all in my mind but I think we haven't heard the last of this case. There's just too much drama and too many unanswered questions. Perhaps George will spring a leak, I don't know. One thing is for certain, though: Caylee has learned that her incredible talent for lies has paid off and has indeed saved her life so there is no reason for her to ever stop. How anyone would ever be able to trust her again is beyond me.
Forget about rights. Caylee's have been taken away from her.:( The right to have children should be taken away from Casey.:mad: It is tube tying time for her.
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Originally Posted by Karen
I didn't consider this being charged with anything. They've already said they will apply the fact she spent 3 yrs in jail as part of the 4 yr sentence - they will probaly give her probation for that 4th yr. I certainly don't consider that justice. Killing your daughter and getting off scott free is not my idea of justice. Obvious that some of the jury was bought or they all have noodles for brains.
I agree totally with your statement Sasvermont - child wefare should keep a close watch on her. I think it should be mandatory for all parents found guilty of child abuse, neglect or in this case murder should be sterilized so another child doesn't suffer at the hands of these parasites. If someone had reported Casey's behaviour (which would have been noticeable ), child welfare could have removed poor Calee before she ended up dead.
Lord help us if she ends up with yet another helpless victim of her depraved mind. So much for our justice.
She won't have to worry about that after she sells the book and movie rights and makes a FORTUNE off of that. then she can afford to never get a job and have a body guard to follow her around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Medusa
Still better than being dead and thrown out like yesterdays trash in a garbage bag :(
One law expert acknowledged that a "dry bones" case is a real bear to prove. IMO, the only tougher one is a murder with no body. I've heard of only one of these being successful, in New York. However, she's been convicted in "the court of public opinion" and regardless of the legal status, much like OJ, she will not be accepted. She engaged in some dodgy behavior for sure; but the jury is not permitted to solely use that as a basis for conviction. Without cause or time of death, proving murder is very difficult.
Maybe she'll make big $$$ - maybe not. She might sell her story, pics, write a book, etc, but as much as she is hated by the majority of people, I rather doubt that the profits will be very high. Maybe the people that like train wrecks will buy into it, but I wouldn't give a plug nickle to read about anything she has to say. And watch a movie??? - definitely not. I've seen enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by sparks19
In a sense, she is a prisoner and will be for the rest of her life. She won't be confined to a cell and be confined by bars, but she will be forced to live a very secluded and lonely life - IMO. I doubt her family will welcome her back with open arms and she has no friends - so what does she have??? She destroyed herself and her daughter and her entire family, so let her live with what she has done. I have not one ounce of sympathy for her, and whatever hardships she encounters in the future, then let her deal with them - ALONE!!!!
You may be right, Ellie. OJ didn't get very far w/his book but he had his football pension to fall back on and a lot of possessions and property he could sell. She has none of those things. As for friends, she'll make new ones. There are always those people who want to glom onto someone notorious even if it's for suspected murder. They won't be real friends in the true sense of the word but I doubt she'll be lonely. She doesn't really care about people anyhow. She'll get what she can and then dump them and move on to someone else. She proved that her friends were only there for her use when she stole checks from a good friend. After her sentencing tomorrow, I hope to not hear anything about her.
Oh I think you'd be surprised how many people would by into the books and movies to get the "inside scoop"
Look at Scott Peterson. After he was convicted women were camping outside of the jail pining away for him :eek:
never underestimate the sick sense of curiousity people can have.
Look at Karla Homolka, she went to jail along with paul for torturing and raping multiple women including her own sister and now she's out with a degree in psychology and lived in Quebec and now she's moved to somewhere out of the country where no one knows her story with a new husband and a new baby. isn't life grand?
yeah I'm not confident that Casey is going to face much hardship beyond the next 5-10 years... after that... people will forget.
Our justice system sucks. The young man that flipped the bird to Jeff Aston promptly was sentenced to six days in jail and a $650.00 fine and that psycopath killed her beautiful defenseless little girl and got away with it. OJ all over again.
I didn't realize that there were this many jurors in the room who saw/heard all the evidence in the case firsthand.
Incredibly deep and diverse jury pool, and to have them all be right here on PT.
Entire article.Quote:
But one of the five alternate jurors spoke to reporters after arriving home Tuesday night in St. Petersburg and said he would have reached the same conclusion had he taken part in the deliberations.
"I agree with it wholeheartedly," said Russell Huekler, a teacher. "It was the right decision that was made."
Obviously you are a defense lawyer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
No, just constantly amazed by the public following a trial which doesn't affect them in the least thousands of miles away and completely ignoring things which affect them directly in every segment of their lives.
Sensationalism sells.
Congrats to CNN et. al., another rating kill on a hyped case.
Yes - isn't it grand that we can all have our opinions and can state them??? Just one aspect of our rights of living in "the land of the free" - that good old "freedom of speech". That's why, most of the time when I say something controversial, I also say "IMO".Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
I feel the same way. Especially when it only seems to upset the people viewing it. I swear, I know a couple people that probably have a new ulcer or two from watching this trial on a daily basis. I hadn't heard much about it, except for the verdict. Sad, either way, because that little girl is still gone. :love:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady's Human
What if she is innocent? The media had her guilty before anyone was sure she was even dead.
She was a bad mother, yes, but did she actually kill her own child?
I still think the grandmother did it.
The grandmother was the only one concerned when the child was missing. Sorry that makes no sense.
Well - I'm going to post this one last time (don't hold me to that, but I'll try to not say any more about this subject).
I started this thread because I thought the trial would be interesting, and I really wanted to see how our justice system would handle it. I did not eat, drink and sleep it, nor did I get an ulcer stressing over it, and I did not veg in front of the t.v. on a daily basis, letting it consume my life. Yes - I was upset with the verdict yesterday and it did bother me - just as it did so many other people in this country, and elsewhere too. I found it interesting to read other PT'ers views on it also over the course of the trial. No one here that posted was right or wrong - simply expressing what they felt.
I guess I became interested in it in the first place, since it had so many similarities to a local case here several years back. A "man" - and I use that term very loosely - sexually molested his young son. He was brought to trial with no real evidence - only the son's word that it happened. I believe the boy was around 11 or 12 at the time. This guy was found guilty and sentenced to 40 years in prison - he'll be in his 70's if and when he is released. No "real" evidence that it happened - how could the court be sure?? Do I think he did it??? Yes - most definitely. This guy was low-life scum - a drunk who lived off others and rode around town on his bicycle because he had so many DUI charges that he permanently lost his license, and he had no job to even afford a junk car anyway. He stole and lied - probably would have sold the fillings out of his mother's teeth for a buck! Sound like somebody else that has been in the news lately????? :rolleyes: In the end, he was convicted with no hard evidence at all.
So if anyone is upset with any of my posts - oh well - get over it. No one was forced to read or post anything here. To the folks who did post and debate without being judgmental of other posters - thank you.
And in the end, little Caylee received no justice at all. IMO!!!!
Please note that I did not say that anyone here did anything inappropriate nor did I point you out specifically as stressing to the point of ulcer (that statement is the only reason I'm replying in the first place because I think I may be the only one who referred to that). I read no posts on this thread except a few of the most recent (maybe four or five). I saw that someone felt the way I did about it and responded. In fact, I only opened it one other time besides today, when it was first started, so I certainly wasn't upset by anyone's posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by pomtzu
whether anyone thinks it's worth my while or not.... people who hurt children and get away with it will ALWAYS make me very angry. I odn't know if that person is Casey or not but someone did this and no I don't know them but it does affect me. It breaks my heart that these innocent beautiful babies have to suffer at the hands of people who should KNOW BETTER.
I was just wondering. If at any time Casey let's it slip (drinking, drugs, mouthing off..whatever) about the circumstances of Caylee's death, can she be rearrested or is that double jeopardy and she can't be tried twice for the same crime?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7620Y720110707
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(Reuters) - A juror in the Casey Anthony case said on Wednesday that jurors cried and felt sick after deciding to acquit the young Florida mother of murder, a verdict that dropped jaws across the country.
"I did not say she was innocent," juror Jennifer Ford told ABC News. "I just said there was not enough evidence."
"If you cannot prove what the crime was, you cannot determine what the punishment should be," the 32-year-old nursing student said.
All 12 jurors who found Casey, 25, not guilty of first-degree murder and other felony charges stemming from the 2008 death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee declined to comment to the media immediately after the verdict. Ford said they were emotional and not ready to speak.
"It was because we were sick to our stomach to get that verdict," she said of the jurors who had been sequestered in a hotel for the duration of the trial because of the intense media coverage. "We wanted to do it with integrity and not contribute to the sensationalism of the trial."
She could confess while sober and nothing could happen to her legally.Quote:
Originally Posted by K9karen
My understanding - only if they could come up with another charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by K9karen
That's why when someone goes to trial who has murdered many victims, they are usually only charged with one or two initially. The prosecutors keep the rest in the background for just that reason.
The circumstances of Caylee's death will probably never be known. I have the feeling that her death was probably an accident, whether by drowning or cloraform
overdose. I can imagine Casey or someone else covering it up by making it look like a murder. I just got through looking at a montage of 60 photos of Casey and Caylee together, and I find it hard to believe that Casey would or could kill her on purpose. All I see is love for Caylee. I find it hard to agree with murder 1 based on a motive of she wanted her freedom. I'm sure the jury felt the same.
The judge just gave her the maximum: 4 years to run consecutively with a 1,000 dollar fine for each year. Also considering making her pay for the costs of the police and things for the wild goose chases she sent them on.
So, that means, she will be out probaly later this month or August. Since she is indigent, she won't have the money to pay the fines so will get out of that too. :rolleyes:
:o Now I do think they will make her pay the fines.. Cause she will have the money just as soon as the Book & Movie Deals in the works Pay Her.. And oh yes they said last night that She has had a dream in jail that tells her that its time for her to get pregnant again now for a new baby.. :rolleyes:
Yes I do think the Whole Family Knows Just What Happened to the Baby && Its All A Cover Up.. And they have all gotten away with it now too I guess..
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Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces
I do think in the end she will have a hard time of it. No one will want to be her friend/ no one will want her to live with them. She has cast aside her family. The public hates her and if a man wants to indeed make a baby with her he will be either mentally ill or dumber then dirt and they will deserve each other.
As for the book deal, well just don't buy it. Perhaps no one will want to publish it.
I do feel badly for her mom, I don't think she is a bad person.
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Originally Posted by lvpets2002