"Pet Angel Fund for Spaying Gizzy et al"

Not really. You're almost 15, and there are others out there who were on their own earlier... but that's not the point.

What does emancipation mean?
"Emancipation of a minor” generally refers to the process of freeing a minor (person under age 18) from parental control. It means that the parent is no longer legally responsible for the acts of the child. It can allow the child to set up his/her own living arrangement. The term may also refer to freeing the earnings/income of a child from the control of a parent.

This is actually a really good site for answers...
http://www.peoples-law.org/children/...ion%20home.htm

Rehoming is something I won't do. That's probably selfish of me to say, but at least where they are now they have me. And me is doing all I can for them at the moment. And I've already said this. And IMO, I'm being more mature than some of the adults on PT who are using caps and yelling at me. But that's just my opinion.

Jenn Well, still. I can't leave my mom. Many reasons for that.

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Rehoming is something I won't do. That's probably selfish of me to say, but at least where they are now they have me. And me is doing all I can for them at the moment. And I've already said this. And IMO, I'm being more mature than some of the adults on PT who are using caps and yelling at me. But that's just my opinion.

Jenn Well, still. I can't leave my mom. Many reasons for that.

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It doesn't seem that you are doing all you can for them. Rehoming them is an option. It seems like you're just being stubborn and not considering that it could actually be the best thing for them. :(

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It doesn't seem that you are doing all you can for them. Rehoming them is an option. It seems like you're just being stubborn and not considering that it could actually be the best thing for them. :(

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You don't even know the half of it.

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You don't even know the half of it.

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Then tell us.

It's rather personal and then everyone would just hate me more.

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Then tell us.

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I think if you want her to tell you then it is best in PM & if Bri feels she can tell you then she will do so. I have heard a lot of it and I am sure not all and it is very personal and not everyone would understand.

Thanks, Michelle.

It's just something I don't feel comfortable talking about and I'm pretty sure my real friends don't even know about it. Only two of my well trusted online friends know and it's just something really personal. And most people would convict me of more things because it's hard to understand.

Yes, know 'the other half' and how personal it is. I don't think should have to share it if she doesn't want to. Knowing this piece of information, I can see why Bri is wary, if you will, of asking her mom to do so much stuff concerning Gizzie and all the other pets. I know my mom would get annoyed if I bugged her about taking me here and there for a pet, even if it was the right thing to do. Most parents, not all, think a dog is healthy when it's getting food and water. And by reading what Bri's mom said, I can say she is one of those parents. she is getting annoyed by Gizzie and threatened to throw her out on the streets. You have to take 'baby steps' in these kinds of situations because in a snap her mom can change her mind and just do that, throw her out.

I KNOW Bri is thankful for all of this help but right now she is under a lot of pressure- PTers are getting her upset as Michelle has said, she has to plan and maintain the fund set up, she has to do all this work regarding the vet and vet care (ie appointments etc.) and she has to do all this without bugging her mom that much. I think under all these circumstances she is doing a wonderful job.

I'm really sorry that they don't still offer that. At least you made the effort and I applaud you for that. I hope things will work out for you.

1. I had a hysterectomy one week ago today. I am my mom's. I CANNOT answer PMs, and sometimes cannot even post messages.

IF YOU HAVE SENT ME PMs on LOW COST SPAY NEUTER or ANYTHING ELSE, I CANNOT DO ANYTHING WITH THE INFO.

2. NO ONE SAID DR ROBINSON WAS LOW-COST! HE HAS THE PET ANGEL FUND WHICH PEOPLE DONATE TO.

SUGGESTION - GET GIZZY DONE AT DR R'S. THEN LET'S FIND ONE OF THE GOOD LOW-COST CLINICS, ONE OF WHICH IS IN JOHNSON CITY, AND SEE ABOUT FUNDING THEM.

I AM NOT FLAMING, JUST TRYING TO BE EMPHATIC WHILE I CAN ACTUALLY GET THIS DIAL-UP TO COOPERATE.

WILL BE BACK BY THURSDAY NITE MT

I just wanted to say, that I have been in the same situations where I begged my parents to take my pets or strays or something to a vet, or take them in and it has always been rejected. My parents aren't what you'd call "pet people", and you have to face the fact that some parents aren't. They allow their child to get a pet but expect it to be ok with just food, shelter, and water. That is what my parents think sometimes.

I don't think anyone here likes the situation Bri is in with her pets right now, she doesn't like it either. I am sure many of you think we teens "make excuses" alot of the time but my parents just don't like animals as much as me and they don't agree with bringing an animal to the vet very easily. I know this from asking many a time, and I have alot of experience with it.

Pretty pointless post, but just felt I needed to let it out.

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I just wanted to say, that I have been in the same situations where I begged my parents to take my pets or strays or something to a vet, or take them in and it has always been rejected. My parents aren't what you'd call "pet people", and you have to face the fact that some parents aren't. They allow their child to get a pet but expect it to be ok with just food, shelter, and water. That is what my parents think sometimes.

I don't think anyone here likes the situation Bri is in with her pets right now, she doesn't like it either. I am sure many of you think we teens "make excuses" alot of the time but my parents just don't like animals as much as me and they don't agree with bringing an animal to the vet very easily. I know this from asking many a time, and I have alot of experience with it.

Pretty pointless post, but just felt I needed to let it out.

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Thank you Alyssa :)

So did an appointment ever get scheduled then...or what? What's going on? How long do you have until the fund is given to other needy animals?

update, please?

We found out the price.

Jenn is going to call them and see how much is in the fund tomorrow.

And she's going to check on the price without the leukemia test.

So, we won't know anything more til tomorrow.

Toes...Toes...Toes. I think no matter which way ones opinion/comments go, your stepping on some toes.

All this talk of age, maturity, mom who dont care in the least, nothing being accomplished. Wow. So hard to make up from down, wrong from right. Its crazy stuff here. Mom simply dont care. Ok, yes there are people out there who dont see an animal as anything with worth. instead of finding a home, she wants to try and help Giz and mom get along. Great.. but I dont know. There are many things to consider. I could get back into the negative of not getting out of bed to make a call. Im sorry, but its a poor excuse. I am a nocturnal insomniac with 4 children. I trained my kids to sleep in from birth. But today, I crawled out of bed at 7am after very few hours of sleep. I took my cat to the vet (after saving for months) I came home, to my 3 kids (one in school) I took care of them and the house and whatnot. No naps, no second chance to sleep. There is no excus in that. I will also get up and repeat the process tomorrow to get the cat home. Its worth it. I went 3 solid days without sleep to care for 4 newborn kittens, mom and my 4 kids.. I was up late last night because I had to take care of my FISH who had to have a water change due to toxins. Fish I lost sleep over.

When I first saw this thread. I thought that Bri was great. She was being responsible where her mother wouldnt. I even posted that. Things change. Too many to list really. Maturity has little to do with it at this point. People in this age range can grow up, and fast, when they need or want to. I see neither here. I was taking care of my own baby at 16, and the father the same age worked and supported it.

I dont know the story. Bri, you can PM if you would like. But when it comes down to it, I dont see what can happen where you decide to put yourself, and your happiness before your animals. I know people often dont see things the same as what people from the outside can or do. But when it comes down to it, you put the animal before you. I have done this in the past. It is VERY hard, yes. But times do come that its the only option. I gave up a dog I saved at 2 weeks from certain death and had to give him up after 2 years, for him. Not for me. I knew it was the right thing to do. (and I have many other stories too)

Other things must be considered in there care. What happens if they do get fixed and shots and are good to go... Then one day one falls incredibly ill? Then what? Would your mother care enough... no. Would she even care enough to at minimum pts if called for? Honestly I doubt that. Im not trying to say your mom is a horrible person. She simply does not see an animal as more than a thing. Which is fine. But that means that she should not be responsible for animals, and in this case she dont want to be and your fighting her. Money may be a technical issue, but its not the root of the problem. Dont assume I dont know about money either. (since you would probably pick that right up I will explain) I can nearly guarantee you that my family of 6 (Plus 3 cats, 2 newts and a number of fish) are living on less right now. With enough will and effort I have saved to get Snow spayed. Now I am starting the slow process for 2 more cats. You will not ever change your mother. She just dont want animals. You should do your best, but if you cant get things in order, place them. Carefully chosen homes. In time you will have the chance to provide happy homes in the future when your an adult yourself.

I hope in the end all comes out well. Weather that be being spayed or a new home.

Have read entire thread and have got a headache. Just 3 points

1. Are the animals okay?

2. If Mom hates them so much why not just say "no you can't have a pet" - plenty do. Once you have a place of your own (i.e. when you are older) you can fill it with as many animals as you want as long as you are able to provide for each and every one of them

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3. If she slept with her phone under her pillow someone could take her number and give her an early morning wake up call!!


(was going to put point 4 - when did Borzoi come back but thought better of it :D )

One more thing - this is just my opinion but I don't think parents should let their children have pets unless the parent is prepared to take on the care and responsiblity of the animal. I only let my daughter have all our animals because I knew I would be happy to look after them too and not leave it all to her. My parents weren't "pet people" which is why I didn't get every cat/dog/rabbit I set my heart on - doesn't make them bad parents, makes them responsible

I just found and read this today. I'm not even sure how to respond. I think it was amazingly generous of the PTers who donated to the fund. You guys are great. I honestly think that if you are not going to be able to care for the pets, you should consider rehoming. However, you might still be able to pull through this. Any updates?

Just spoke to Linda at the office, and so far there is has only been one donation in the amount of $60.00

Had there been other donations made?? I thought I read earlier that there had been more money donated??? :confused:

If there's only $60.00 in there, I don't see why the low fee spay/neuter clinic can't be used... She could get the shots for Gizzie for that amount, and then do the clinic for the spay. That's reasonable.

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:) We are at $175.00 now {headed that way in the mail}..

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And in the next message, which is from kittycats_delight:
My donation is €40,00 which about $55.00 american. Sent off from here on the 25th.

I'm sure it's not made it here yet, since it's coming from Italy.


So that would bring it to around $230.00. I don't know why it's only got $60 in it though.

I would think if it is just $60.00 there so far then the others have not made it as of yet. Maybe another check as of the beginning of next week would be a good idea. Give it a little extra time to make it.

No clue. I'm just letting you know what the amount is.

Thanks Jenn.

Just a question.. if it's like pulling teeth from a gator to get your mom to make a call, drive somewhere, let you walk down the street (to the vet), or even talk to.. How are they going to get to the vet once everything is ready to go? :(

Not trying to tread on toes, just curious!

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Just a question.. if it's like pulling teeth from a gator to get your mom to make a call, drive somewhere, let you walk down the street (to the vet), or even talk to.. How are they going to get to the vet once everything is ready to go? :(

Not trying to tread on toes, just curious!

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Apparently Bri's mom said that she will take Gizzie to the vet when the appointment is made and pick her up she is just not having any part in all the rest of it. Don't understand why she is willing to take her but not help with making a phone call. But really it is impossible to understand some people's reasonings.

Only $60? Sorry for so late in replying. I couldn't get online because our electricity was cut off this morning. My mom had to borrow money to get it back on.

Well, since no other donations have made it yet and this money won't be in thee much longer, why don't we go ahead and switch clinics? Besides the spay and neuter clinic there is also another clinic that offers low cost spay/neuter. I picked up a form from the animal shelter yesterday.

It's up to everyone here though.

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Only $60? Sorry for so late in replying. I couldn't get online because our electricity was cut off this morning. My mom had to borrow money to get it back on.

Well, since no other donations have made it yet and this money won't be in thee much longer, why don't we go ahead and switch clinics? Besides the spay and neuter clinic there is also another clinic that offers low cost spay/neuter. I picked up a form from the animal shelter yesterday.

It's up to everyone here though.

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Well if the other money is already enroute then it will show up there and they aren't gonna send it back.

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Well if the other money is already enroute then it will show up there and they aren't gonna send it back.

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Oh, yeah. :/

Well if the money doesn't make it there soon then it won't matter.

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Oh, yeah. :/

Well if the money doesn't make it there soon then it won't matter.

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Why not take her in to get her shots done now then and when the rest arrives make the appointment for her spay?

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Why not take her in to get her shots done now then and when the rest arrives make the appointment for her spay?

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Is $60 enough for the shots?

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Is $60 enough for the shots?

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from this stated earlier, almost. could you come up with the 6.75??

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PreOp blood work: $55.00
Spay: 81.99; Pain meds $8-$10.00
Vax: Distemper-18.69; FeLV-22.04; Rabies-12.73; Bordetella-13.29 = $66.75
FeLV/FIV combo test - 44.79
Total 258.53
Not sure what tax is in your state.... would need to calculate that in.

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from this stated earlier, almost. could you come up with the 6.75??

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I am not sure but Gizzie may need to be tested before they vaccinate her for felv and in that case there is enough.

Oh goodness child, get off your butt and do something. Why are you always whining and leaving it up to others to decide and take action? Oh, I forgot.. you don't/can't wake up before noon. Oh forget I even said anything, I'm done with this

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Oh goodness child, get off your butt and do something. Why are you always whining and leaving it up to others to decide?

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Excuse me? I'm not whining. And don't talk to me that way.

Of course everyone is probably going to come in here and agree with you and then not say anything about you being rude. Yet if I say something even slightly off I get called rude.

Whatever.

You should have no problem getting vax done w/out any testing. Testing isn't mandatory. Vax are.

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You should have no problem getting vax done w/out any testing. Testing isn't mandatory. Vax are.

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Oh goodness child, get off your butt and do something. Why are you always whining and leaving it up to others to decide and take action? Oh, I forgot.. you don't/can't wake up before noon.

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That was REALLY uncalled for. As I said in previous posts, I don't agree with some of Bri's actions or words but NIETHER DOES SHE! Do you think she just chooses to be in situations like this one? No one likes it, all she is asking for is support NOT bashing. I don't get why everyone is being so rude around here lately, geez. I think some people need to learn the phrase "If you have nothing nice to say don't say it at all".

If it were me, I'd do all the vax except for the bordatella. I'd do that when there is enough cash. Cats do get it, but it's more prevalent in the shelter situation.