Wow, I leave PT to take my dogs for a walk and look what
happens.:p
Sara, I'm very curious to know who sent you a nasty pm. I've
only had one in all my time here & I posted it ,as Johanna did,
and NEVER got another one.:D
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Wow, I leave PT to take my dogs for a walk and look what
happens.:p
Sara, I'm very curious to know who sent you a nasty pm. I've
only had one in all my time here & I posted it ,as Johanna did,
and NEVER got another one.:D
The person was good enough to keep the beef between us personal so I'll respect her too and do the same....:)
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Sorry IRescue452, but this comment just turned me off. If you don't like it here, there's no one stopping you from leaving and going to a country where poor college students get insurance just like everyone else.
ANY physician can discriminate.Quote:
Originally posted by popcornbird
That being said, whether you approve of a person's life choices or not, the doctor has no right to reject a patient who needs medical attention no matter what. Maybe some people do make irresponsible choices. That still doesn't give a doctor any right to reject them. Doctors are there to help people. Whether a person is single, married, male, female, whatever.......a person who needs medical attention IS a person who needs medical attention. If a women has a miscarriage, the doctor should be there to help her.....NOT help her based on whether she got pregnant by her husband, boyfriend, or in a rape. The doctor has no right to discriminate, period.
There are docs out there that will not prescribe BCPs or do an abortion if the patient comes to them in a non life threatening situation....
There have been times when I have seen a doctor "step aside" because they had some kind of prejudice.
It's totally different in an emergency situation. A physician is bound by medical ethics to provide care to an injured/ill patient
But there have been the occasions where a doc may bypass a car accident for one reason or another.
:confused: :rolleyes:
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I just have to take this arguement down the political path once more- Now don't read this as a party line....I am pretty ignorant when it comes down to the Constitition, BOR and all the other
important documents that the country is built upon...
I know that there are people who want to blame GWB for every mess we go thru......
(I was starting to get suspicious about the earthquakes around the Indian Ocean.......)
He is the guy in charge but can we look at what gets the money spent here in America??
Before (in the old days, when politics was a gentleman's sport
:rolleyes: ) The parties worked together to get us ahead...Now it's just vitriol and stupidity that rules the roost.
BOTH PARTIES act like a bunch of spoiled a-holes if THEIR bill doesn't pass intact......it's a personal affront to all those fat, lazy
politicos if there is a line added, deleted or changed in a bill...
No room for negotiation anymore.....and that is what is screwing us up-
Take the healthcare reforms that Hill and Billary were trying to get going...the Republicans weren't gonna go for it unless there were changes, H and B weren't about to change anything so the whole process died.....who do we blame for not being able to compromise in the issue?
It goes back to responsibility.
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Yes, it's a ridiculous amount of money but let's move this into another realm....
Appendectomy,
Uterine Fibroids or menstrual hemorrhaging.
Motor Vehicle accident.
Those are emergency cases that with the exception of the MVA need surgery.
I just don't see anyone sitting on the ground, in front of the building, trying to decide to IF THEY HAVE THE MONEY to go in....
Harder yet to try and figure out if you can afford to take a loved one in because it's gonna be a hell of a bill later on.
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Popcorn,
I just want to tweak you nose a little....
The Health care system in the US is FAR FROM pathetic.
Every few months you get a person that is brought into the U.S. for some specialized type of care....Why?
We do have cutting edge technology here.....
The billing and insurance issues need to be kept separate from the care and diagnostic issues.
Getting a bill from 18.000 dollars don't seem so bad when you realize that in some far flung places on the planet there are still women who do drop dead from blood loss because there are NO FACILITIES to give her a decent chance to live.
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A spoon full of sugar makes the medicine go down.
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P.s. I have noticed that there is way more sunlight left in the day when I leave work.......That's been going on since Sara and I have been in agreement....:D
PCB, I have a good job, and trust me, my health insurance is FAR from free.
Here in NZ it is similar to Britian, infact we have a reciprocal health agreement with them, in other words my son can get free treatment over there, especially ,as he has the right of abode, not sure about a true blue kiwi..but I think so.
Her treatment would be free here, we pay per item on a presciption, people as myself on a lower income are fortunate to have a community services card which allows us to pay three dollars per item instead of around 15, we also get cheaper doctor's fees.
I do however have private medical insurance, it is very hard for us to afford, but I consider it a priority, because the waiting list is too long in Public hospital, if I have something serious needing attention I will go private, it only covers surgical treatment and specialist visits if we have surgery,but it is better than nothing, it costs around 1200 dollars a year for my whole family.,it will get more expensive as we get older, and that is when the worry will be, can we afford it then?
At present I had to wait for my daughter to see a specialist through the public system, because of a cancellation we were able to get in after only waiting 2 mths, that is pretty good , and it was not something that needed urgent treatment, it just depends on what you are waiting for.
We are always strongly urged to take out insurance when we travel, especially via the states.
I hear it is suppose to rain later this week....
Richard....when exactly was this....
It began at the beginning. Adams and Jefferson. Heck, challenges to a duel were not unheard of.....There have been elections that would make the last couple look like junior high school in terms of viciousness and vitriol.Quote:
The parties worked together to get us ahead...Now it's just vitriol and stupidity that rules the roost
Let's talk the Civil War.....civil in this case does NOT mean they were being nice to each ohter....:D ;)
Devisiveness and stupidity aren't anything new....
It was just the secret handshakes and mysterious deals that I was talking about....I refer to the small 'give ins' that everyone made to get the machine rolling....Quote:
Originally posted by Edwina's Secretary
Let's talk the Civil War.....civil in this case does NOT mean they were being nice to each ohter....:D ;)
Devisiveness and stupidity aren't anything new....
Not telling anyone to EFF off during a meeting.
Now we get CSPAN all day long and the elected officials are under a microscope. they can't afford a mistake....we'll see it minutes after and the poor oaf will spend the rest of his term trying to figure out how to get re-elected...
:rolleyes:
PCB....today....providing benefits to employees cost employers an average of 42%. In other words for every dollar employers pay in salary/wages there is another $0.42 they pay...on behalf of the employee in benefits. Your dad has been very, very lucky to always have employers who pay 100% of the insured benefit cost.
I was just with a client. Insurance cost per month for a single employee just over $600.00 per month. Ouch!
Sounds to me someone needs to take their own advise. I have said some things that I know not everyone agrees with, and others have said things I dont agree with. But to PM someone and attack them where others can not see, thats cold, wrong, against normall morals. When I saw Cataholic's name for a seciond I thought it said catholic, but I looked again and saw I was wrong. For the seciond I thought it was catholic I thought wow cool she's proud of her religion. When I found out I was wrong I thought wow cool she likes cats. I know some people dont like my opinions but what is a board for if not to post opinions to be debated by a wide diversity of people. If you dont like hearing others opinions, dont read them. You choose what you look at. She never forced you to read her opinion. O and if you think that now I am following you, stop flatering yourself I'm not.Quote:
Originally posted by jennifert9
That's right and the reason I didn't post it here is because not everyone needs to be subjected to your opinionated, judgmental, over-sensitive spouting. Why do you always think that everyone is out to get you? You made your decision, get over it. If you have regrets bring them somewhere else to discuss them, not here on Pet Talk. If you want to discuss this further, we can do it out of the public eye so everyone here doesn't have to listen to it. Grow up.
And by the way, I have been a member here since 12/4/2001, long before you joined, and have just recently started posting again. So don't think for one second that you can make me leave or intimidate me by bullying me like you are on a playground or something. Stop following me around PetTalk. Don't you have anything better to do?
Timely media stuff................
Last night I watched an interview with a pharmacist who refused to fill order for BCPs because of his religion...
(that's me in spot light losing my religion.....)
And this morning there was ANOTHER recall of a med....I forgot the name....because the side effects caused strokes, heart attacks and skin diseases...
The newscaster also mentioned that Celebrex has some side effect but it would NOT be recalled because the benefits 'outweighed the drawbacks'.....
Must have been a guy from the Chicago area (forget exactly where). Don't remember all the details but it was a CVS Pharmacy. Their policy is that they leave it up to the individual pharamacist as to whether he will dispense certain drugs or not - according to his religion. I belive the Governor (or somebody) is now trying to make it a law in Illinois that no-one can refuse to dispense a drug - no matter what their reasoning (i.e. religion, race, sexual orientation, marital status or whatever).Quote:
Originally posted by RICHARD
Timely media stuff................
Last night I watched an interview with a pharmacist who refused to fill order for BCPs because of his religion...
Richard I among other's here were quite distraught that Vioxx was withdrawn, I found it an excellent drug, with minimal side effects, luckily I was on average only taking 4 pills per month, I am now on Arcoxia, this has not been approved by the FDA, so you will not have this drug in USA , so I am told, but I am waiting for it to be withdrawn as well, it is only a matter of time, interesting fact that Celebrex has not been.
My blood pressure has risen, and is borderline these days, but I donot know if it is due to the drug I took, or whether it is because I gained some weight back that I had lost, when my blood pressure was quoted as being Excellent.
My mother dropped dead 2 months after starting celebrex...no problems before that...just be careful.
one friend at her work (human hospital where I bumped into while visiting my grandfather) -- we were talking about bills and taxes -- she told me ANY nurse/doctor WALK IN that door where screaming preggie ANYTIME is (for ANY reason) costs you more than $3,000 PER. even her and I thought that was really crazy but that's how it is...now to most of hospitals. :(