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Kay, there are a lot of people who self harm who COULD get help if they asked for it, but a lot of times they are too ashamed, and they fear they will be looked at as sick, twisted, or disturbed. Also some don't want help. I don't think you are clinically insane for hugging your dogs when you are upset. I do that too, and I am going to assume that a lot of people on here do so I guess we are all crazy. :p
I will agree to this. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Kfamr
And I didn't say ALL of them were too stubborn to recieve help. I said a lot of them, and that's TRUE according to the children in my school.
You've got to admit. A large amount of teenagers and pre-teens are very stubborn. I'll admit being so. :p
I apoligize if my post was harsh. After my year-long experience with my "child", I'm really sensitive to anything like that. I feel she was ignored and made to feel bad for what happened to her by her family and her "friends". I couldn't protect her from those people, but could against people that didn't know her. Poor thing. :( People really do suck, sometimes.
I hope your friends will stop hurting themselves. Its sad they do that for the attention seeking too.
i have a friend that did that she eventually told her teacher and she told the teacher not to tell any one and the teacher promised, later that week the princable went up to her and took the sicers away and i think her family put her in a mental hospital and when she got back she had about 100 scars on her arms legs and singhs of the devil. i think it made it worse but after that i dont think she has every hert herself again
No, I really don't know of anybody who does but I think it is terrible. How could somebody do something to themselves. It is terribly sad.:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
I have never heard of people cutting themselves in my young day, does this mean it has become a trend or a new way of dealing with your problems, or that it did exist, it just was not brought out in the open as it is today, just curious?
I think anyone who cuts themselves, uses alcohol or drugs to deal with their problems does need help, it does not by any means suggest that they are crazy, they just need to develop a more healthier way of coping, IMO.
Let's face it Human beings are very good at abusing our bodies, whether it be through the above means or something different, how many of you have drunk too much and had a bad hang-over the next day, and how often have we done this to our bodies, I can raise my hand to that, does it mean we are all crazy for doing so, think of the effects on our bodies.
Teetotallers could assume we are all crazy for doing that, and sometimes I have to agree, human beings are stupid fullstop, it just depends why you are choosing these options, and if it is to release emotional pain, or stress, then professional help should be sought IMO.
P.S I think it is brave of Cass to publicly admit her problem and I appauld her for that, I know Cass you don't seem bothered by it, But I think deep down you are, and I am so happy to hear sweetie that you are going to seek help, HUGS.
Thank you! I haven't done it for a very long time. I think I am good at getting my thoughts out in writing but when it comes to other means I have a very difficult time.Quote:
Originally posted by carole
P.S I think it is brave of Cass to publicly admit her problem and I appauld her for that, I know Cass you don't seem bothered by it, But I think deep down you are, and I am so happy to hear sweetie that you are going to seek help, HUGS.
Cass I can relate to that well, as I am sure many of us can, that is why I love PT, I can say things much better here than in person, and sweetie if it helps by telling us here, then that is one big step in the right direction, good luck with the face to face consult, its always harder in those situations.
You should be proud that you are not cutting anymore, maybe it means you have found a better way to deal with your issues, not that you should be ashamed, just finding healthier options is a really good start, more HUGS from me to you.:)
Carole, I'm not sure when your "young days" were, but I am going to assume in like the 60s (sorry if I am wrong :o), then yes, self injury did happen, but it wasn't talked about, it was taboo, and people who did that were often locked up in a mental hospital.Quote:
Originally posted by carole
I have never heard of people cutting themselves in my young day, does this mean it has become a trend or a new way of dealing with your problems, or that it did exist, it just was not brought out in the open as it is today, just curious?
I think anyone who cuts themselves, uses alcohol or drugs to deal with their problems does need help, it does not by any means suggest that they are crazy, they just need to develop a more healthier way of coping, IMO.
Teetotallers could assume we are all crazy for doing that, and sometimes I have to agree, human beings are stupid fullstop, it just depends why you are choosing these options, and if it is to release emotional pain, or stress, then professional help should be sought IMO.
P.S I think it is brave of Cass to publicly admit her problem and I appauld her for that, I know Cass you don't seem bothered by it, But I think deep down you are, and I am so happy to hear sweetie that you are going to seek help, HUGS.
I agree that they need to learn healthier coping methods, and alot of times the person doesn't have any respect for their body and for themselves. Some hate themselves with SO much passion, its just scary. :(
I also think its brave of Cass to admit it publicly, because a lot of people who do that are ashamed and don't want people to know.
I want to clear one thing up real quick. I did get a PM from someone suggesting that I might be a self injurer myself. I am going to assume the reason that person thought I was a self injurer is because I know so much about it. The reason that I happen to know so much about it is because I am close to a situation that involves self injury (which I don't feel comfortable talking about on a forum as its too close and too painful for me), and I couldn't quite understand it, so I decided to read up on it on the internet, and thats how come I know so much about it. After I read up on it, I could understand it a little, and be more understand towards those that choose to cope in that way. Reading about things that I don't understand and can't quite grasp, such as self injury or drugs/alcohol or anything else, I can understand it a little more after I read about it. It doesn't mean I agree with it, in no way do I agree with self harm as a coping tool, but I can understand it better, so it helps with the situation that I am close to. :)
I highly doubt self-injury was a way of coping before recently. There were other ways of coping in the 60's. Grass, running away from home, music, and sex without first getting married. The generation had enough to do with out self-loathing. It was a different era and a different mind-think completely. People were not out to hurt themselves but to find fault with society and rebel against the norms. The 70's brought us anorexia and bulimia. Now it is a whole new way of getting anxiety's dulled.
I think you made it clear that you are not a self injurer!Quote:
Originally posted by Miranda_Rae
I want to clear one thing up real quick. I did get a PM from someone suggesting that I might be a self injurer myself. I am going to assume the reason that person thought I was a self injurer is because I know so much about it. The reason that I happen to know so much about it is because I am close to a situation that involves self injury (which I don't feel comfortable talking about on a forum as its too close and too painful for me), and I couldn't quite understand it, so I decided to read up on it on the internet, and thats how come I know so much about it. After I read up on it, I could understand it a little, and be more understand towards those that choose to cope in that way. Reading about things that I don't understand and can't quite grasp, such as self injury or drugs/alcohol or anything else, I can understand it a little more after I read about it. It doesn't mean I agree with it, in no way do I agree with self harm as a coping tool, but I can understand it better, so it helps with the situation that I am close to. :)
Miranda Rae I was just a kid in the 60's, so I am talking more about like in my teenage years and older, 70's and 80's, It was just something I never heard about , and only recently have.
I find it good to beable to come here and try to understand these things, ignorance is not bliss, and one never knows when someone you know or are close to may indeed be cutting, if coming here can help me understand even a little I find that a positive thing.
Alot of people seem to find cutting abhorent to them, not saying I find it a nice thing to think about, but really is it that different to abusing our bodies with substances or other addictions, isn't it just that an addiction maybe in some cases.??
OK, you all are right. I do have problems. :( And now I know how it feels when you know someone you care about is doing it. My friend and I had a very lengthy discussion tonight about our past and things that have happened to us, and he mentioned he was doing it the other day but stopped himself. This is the same person who stopped me. I felt so sad hearing this. We talked for hours about so much. I think it really helped and I am glad there is someone out there who has had similar things happen to them in their childhood, just a good person to talk to who is a good friend.
I need help. I'm sure most of you who read my journal will agree with me. I have a good reason to live though, and that's my son and my wonderful friends!
Cass sweetheart we are always here to help, if my prying helped you to admit to yourself that you have problems and need professional help, then hey I am glad I am nosey lol, but seriously, I was hoping you would beable to do just that, I guess that is why I directed my questions at you.
The fact you came online here and told us about it, really is a step in the right direction, I wish for you to feel inner peace and happiness you so deserve, with the right help , I hope that can be achieved, and you are right you have the best reason in the world to get well, your darling young son. HUGS....:)