only one shiba in BC at the moment :p..Quote:
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only one shiba in BC at the moment :p..Quote:
I personally, have no problem with people going to a responsible breeder for a puppy. Afterall, if there weren't any, none of our breeds would be around. :)
I would love to adopt a shelter dog in the near future, and also from good breeders. I already have a great Golden Retriever breeder in mind, and am hoping I can purchase a puppy from her sometime when I move out, am financially stable, etc...and plan to compete in obediance with him/her, and do therapy work. :)
In an ideal world, there would be no dogs in shelters (or on the streets). The only place we would be able to go to is responsible breeders.
The first place that I would always look is rescues, shelters, etc... But I do like the idea of keeping breeds pure. If I can't find a dog that I want (which is very rare!) I would not feel guilty getting him from the breeder.
For instance, when I got Dusty, I was looking for a malmute. I fell in love with him at the pound. He's aussie/husky. Roxy, I was looking for a malmute with totally different looks. I rescued her. Teddy, I searched for a pomeranian for a long time through rescues. I couldn't find one so, I chose to buy him.
Out of all honesty, I feel "mutts" are generally the best dogs. I think that *alot* of pure breds have problems because of all the inbreeding. I've had better luck with all my rescues in life.
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Originally posted by Tonya
In an ideal world, there would be no dogs in shelters (or on the streets). The only place we would be able to go to is responsible breeders.
It would be only ideal if there were responsible mutt breeders in addition to that. :p
I'm saying ONLY if the shelters aren't full of mutts and other dogs, and there were no such thing as "homeless" animals.
I'm not against responsible breeders at all. I think we need to keep the lines of purebred dogs going. But only *responsible* breeders should be doing that, not backyard breeders.
I didn't choose the right place to get Nebo, and I'm aware of that. I fully plan on getting my next dog as a rescue...I would like a purebred sibe, and I know I could find one. There's many siberian husky rescues in the US, not necessarily in Utah, but I'm willing to drive. :)
I completely agree. :) The breeder I'm going to gets the entire litter's hearing checked, and the mother's. All that adds up to quite alot. I believe she said it only costs 66 dollars a head, but that's cheap compared to the over 100 it usually is.Quote:
Originally posted by Shelteez2
For the price issue, well ethical breeders spend a lot of money on genetic tests, as well as on showing their dogs to make sure they are the best examples of the breed, as well as on vet bills for the pups, getting the pups tatooed or microchipped, registering the pups etc. Good breeders just don't make money in the long run. Would I pay $1000 for a dog? It depends. My next dog will be a whippet, and yes it will be from a breeder. I want to show my dog in conformation, trial it in obedience, and maybe give lure coursing a go. I want as sound of a dog as I can get so that I can actively participate in these activities.
I'm going to be showing my dogs too, but only my GSD will be in conformation. It's virtually impossible to find a good confo. pup in a shelter. It's even hard when going to a reputable breeder. I saw a GSD in the shelter with hip dysplasia and I felt like crying. :( I don't agree with breeding for the standard ALL the time. Generally yes, but breeding for working ability is good too.
Ditto. like my grandmother, she bred malamutes for 15 years and GSD'd befor that for 10. She was very knowledgable and there was a huge demand for blue eyed malamutes so she bred her one blue eyes malamute and got some blue eyes pups. They were very cute :p. And alot of them went on to do cart pulling :)Quote:
Originally posted by wolfsoul
:( I don't agree with breeding for the standard ALL the time. Generally yes, but breeding for working ability is good too.
Even if you did, shelters spay/neuter their dogs before rehoming them (although you could compete in those conf classes for altered dogs for fun), and on top of that I don't know of any that will transfer ownership of papers (if the shelter even receives them) over to the new owner.Quote:
It's virtually impossible to find a good confo. pup in a shelter.
And again what is wrong with breeding to the standard and for working ability?? When you start seperating the two it means trouble for the breed IMO.Quote:
I don't agree with breeding for the standard ALL the time. Generally yes, but breeding for working ability is good too.
Actually, there is a great one in Vernal. My sister fosters and transports for them. They also work with Pet Samaritan. I can get you the info. if you want.Quote:
There's many siberian husky rescues in the US, not necessarily in Utah, but I'm willing to drive.
I agree. I'm so sick and tired of the "conformation camp" and the "working camp" bashing each other. What nonsense! The best conformation dogs usually also have several working titles, as well. There is nothing that says a show dog can't work, and a working dog can't meet conformation standards.Quote:
And again what is wrong with breeding to the standard and for working ability?? When you start seperating the two it means trouble for the breed IMO.
Jynelle--
You want a Shiba?? Is it because you saw Kito's adorable face and decided you had to have one?;)
Shiba rescue is fantastic. I am on their mailing lists, and will volunteer when something comes up in my area. There is a shiba in BC right now, but I know you meant in the future!!
I know all rescues and shelters are good, but the breed rescues themselves are particularly good for the fact that they know so much about the breeds, and are very careful about placing them (some of them).
As for the original post, I am off to search for a blue merle pom on the internet now--sounds cool!!
And for the other discussion, Abbey came from beagle rescue, Riley came from the parking lot of the spca, Jada came from the spca, and Kito came from a breeder. They didn't breed him, but were holding on to him and his sister for a woman who had gotten sick and couldn't keep them anymore. This couple breeds akitas, and show akitas and shibas, and although they didn't breed Kito, they still check in with us once in a while to see how he's doing, and offered that if any time we couldn't keep him, they would take him back.
no way no how. as soon as showing is in, I am out. I am dead set against BCs being recignized and there is no way on earth that I will ever support it in any way shape or form. :)Quote:
What if the breeder that showed them also had herding, agility and obedience titles on them?
i never even knew what a shiba inu was till i seen kito, and i have fallin in love !! :p.. i really want one, i would love to have a black and tan one, but any color is great :D:D. i shall research rescues befor I buy from a breed :).. Kito was a rescue wasnt he???:confused:.. he is such a handsom looking dog!. U love the breed, thanks to you :pQuote:
Originally posted by lovemyshiba
Jynelle--
You want a Shiba?? Is it because you saw Kito's adorable face and decided you had to have one?;)
Shiba rescue is fantastic. I am on their mailing lists, and will volunteer when something comes up in my area. There is a shiba in BC right now, but I know you meant in the future!!
I know all rescues and shelters are good, but the breed rescues themselves are particularly good for the fact that they know so much about the breeds, and are very careful about placing them (some of them).