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Originally posted by popcornbird
OMG! :eek::eek: WHAT WAS THAT TREAT?
I don't remember what is was called but I can find out. I just need to go to the Petsmart site and look. They are little tiny berry treats..they made my rats very ill with diahrea too but they killed my birds very fast, and my birdies were rescues too. Tweety and Snowflake. :( Now I only have two budgies, my Bourkes and that's it. :( They all lived together too.
That's ok. I'm sorry that I misunderstood you. My apologies. But anyway, my birds refuse to touch pellets but they love veggies, and the vet told me that a seed and veggie diet is actually better than an only pellet diet. They need variety, and they get that. :)
:(:(:( So sorry to hear about your birds. You should've sued them! Were they nutriberries? I've never given them to my birds but people on tiel talk do all the time.Quote:
Originally posted by luckies4me
I don't remember what is was called but I can find out. I just need to go to the Petsmart site and look. They are little tiny berry treats..they made my rats very ill with diahrea too but they killed my birds very fast, and my birdies were rescues too. Tweety and Snowflake. :( Now I only have two budgies, my Bourkes and that's it. :( They all lived together too.
I don't think they were Nutriberries no. The weird thing is that only two of my budgies died and the other two were unaffected, but my rats got sick too. The vet had no clue why that happened and was really shocked that the birds died so fast. I had to keep them in my freezer all weekend until I could get an appointment on Monday and then they did a necropsy on both of them. :eek:
:(:(:( Poor babies. I can't believe they would sell something so dangerous at the pet store. Do you think they could have chocked on it or something like that?
oh ok i thought it was a drug, thanx!Quote:
Originally posted by YellowLabLover
Ethoxyquin is a preservative, by the way.
It's a preservative but it is a chemical preservative used as a rubber stabilizer.:)
Geez, I wish bunny people would get this excited about the fallacy that alfalfa pellets are ok for adult rabbits and that pine and cedar shavings are acceptable to use as well.......
Just because the pet suppliers say these items are ok and the pet stores sell them, doesn't mean that these products are healthy for use with animals. You gotta remember that these guys are out to earn a buck and do not necessarily have the best interests of our animal friends at heart. And a lot of them are in denial anyways and won't believe what scientific tests have shown because "we've ALWAYS sold this product"..... :mad: In fact, I asked a pet store the other day why they didn't sell timmy hay-based pellets and they said their distributor didn't have them on their order inventory list. So the other part of the problem is what the pet stores can purchase, then resell. I told them I thought it was crazy that they had no say in who they can order from. What a racket.
What a bunch of (for the lack of a word that I could use here) hooey!!!!
If it does not contain the Ethoxyquin then it should be all right. I did find a link from an avain website on the dangers of the preservative. Sorry if this has already been posted, but here it is:Quote:
Originally posted by popcornbird
I just checked my birds' seed bag. It does not have ethoxyquin in the ingredients. Does that mean its alright? I don't know, but when I got my birds, everyone told me kaytee is the best brand. I always buy kaytee because its the one with the clearest ingredients in cockatiel food, and everyone told me its the best. Now I'm confused. :(
http://www.avianweb.com/ethoxyquin.htm
I could not ever see myself feeding this stuff to my animals, even if some people have had luck with it. I've had customers tell me at work that Cedar bedding has worked great for them for years. That doesn't mean I'm going to stop trying to talk them out of using it.
Here's a good thread on the Rat Fan Club forums, a "What did you do wrong with your first rat" thread. A lot of people said they used pine shavings and/or fed Kaytee.
http://www.goosemoose.com/rfc/index....start=0#136646
Ethoxyquin is not a pesticide..... it is a preservative....
where does it say pescticide? :confused: i only see preservative
She changed it....she edited the post.
Who edited the post?
Guys it is both a preservative and a chemcial, not a pesticide.
Thank you WolfChan....I practically LIVE at the RFC!:p
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Originally posted by luckies4me
Who edited the post?
Guys it is both a preservative and a chemcial, not a pesticide.
Yea, I know that.