Arizona immigration law

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Originally Posted by cassiesmom

Here's a piece from "60 Minutes" about an irrigation canal in California that is being used by Mexican citizens to enter the U.S. illegally. It's so unsafe to cross that it has resulted in numerous drowning deaths. Some people say that measures should be instituted to make the canal safer to cross; others say that isn't the point.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?...in;contentBody

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Oh this is terrible.
There must be something that can be done, either by the Federal Govt. or State Govt's. I'm sure if a few of them got their heads together, they could figure out something that will work.
What ever happened to that fence thingy that Bush had going a couple of years ago ???

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Originally Posted by wombat2u2004

What ever happened to that fence thingy that Bush had going a couple of years ago ???

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I don't think that a fence would deter anyone. I was thinking of something on the order of the Berlin Wall. :p

:) Oh they would just figure out how to climb over or under.. :D

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Originally Posted by pomtzu

I don't think that a fence would deter anyone. I was thinking of something on the order of the Berlin Wall. :p

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Originally Posted by Bonny

I live near a town that had a cosier meat packing plant. There was a raid & they rounded up the immagrants mostly Mexicans. The Jews had hired illegal immagrants & besides under age children of the Mexican community were working at the plant. The Jewish man that was responsible for this is going to prison & I hope they throw the book at him. The immagrants have been sent back to Mexcio at our expense. There were problems with killings, lots of births, breaking the law, robbery, you name it, it happened. The Mexicans are hard working people they do jobs that no one else wants to do. Some of the legals are still here. The cosier meat packing plant has reopened under new management. If they have their green cards & are here legally I have no problem with it. But when they are here I hope they pay them a good wage so they can live the American dream & not drain the system. It is like slave labor other wise. I got into it with a Mexican lady at Wal Mart about a year ago. She purchased hot dogs that were suppose to be on sale & she had other hot dogs that weren't. She accused the clerk of cheating her & calling her a bad name. I was standing in line & watched it all go down. She got real loud with the clerk. I spoke up & told her if you don't like it here go back to where you came from! It really pissed me off! She left the clerk alone, left me alone, & headed for the service counter. This is the kind of stuff that turns you against people.:mad:

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I don't know you, and while I think I have seen your posts, I can't distinguish you from Adam. From this post alone, though, you sound nice and bigoty.

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Originally Posted by Cataholic

I don't know you, and while I think I have seen your posts, I can't distinguish you from Adam. From this post alone, though, you sound nice and bigoty.

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Ya think???

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Originally Posted by wombat2u2004

Oh this is terrible.
There must be something that can be done, either by the Federal Govt. or State Govt's. I'm sure if a few of them got their heads together, they could figure out something that will work.
What ever happened to that fence thingy that Bush had going a couple of years ago ???

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It stopped when it got to Arizona which is why they are having lots more trouble with illegals now. :love:

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Originally Posted by lvpets2002

:) Oh they would just figure out how to climb over or under.. :D

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Yeah, but you could put signs up saying "Please do not climb or dig under fence" :cool:

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Originally Posted by caseysmom

Ya think???

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;)

Cataholic & Caseysmom, I live in the real world. DO YOU?

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Originally Posted by Bonny

Cataholic & Caseysmom, I live in the real world. DO YOU?

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Yeah, they actually do. They realize that the thoughts like the ones expressed in your post are the reason why there's still war going on in the world. ;)

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Originally Posted by Alysser

Yeah, they actually do. They realize that the thoughts like the ones expressed in your post are the reason why there's still war going on in the world. ;)

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Thanks hon. Yes I do live in the real world where there are wierdos and good people in all races of people.

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Originally Posted by Bonny

Cataholic & Caseysmom, I live in the real world. DO YOU?

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What you describe is your perception of reality. Reality may in fact be something completely different, especially when the veneer of racism is removed.

How do you know they are Mexicans? Just because they don't have white skin and speak with a hispanic accent doesn't make them Mexican.

According to the 60 Minutes segment the reason there is an increase in drownings in the canal is because of the border fence. They are saying the fence is doing to good a job and now the canal is the only section available for crossing. I guess the fence needs to extend down the canal also.

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Originally Posted by Lady's Human

What you describe is your perception of reality. Reality may in fact be something completely different, especially when the veneer of racism is removed.

How do you know they are Mexicans? Just because they don't have white skin and speak with a hispanic accent doesn't make them Mexican.

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You have a whole southern hemisphere of them pesky Spanish speakers!;)


The Mex government is trying to keep the Central Ams from coming up and supplanting the locals - who lose jobs to undocumented workers from CentAm and the countries at the top of SouAm - sound familiar?

There is no simple answer to this problem.

The first thing that needs to happen is for people to ditch the racism/bigotry and work towards laws that are just and fair.

By the same token?

We have to tell the illegals that the free ride is over.

Being a 'guero' I get to see both sides of the arguement.

There are people here illegally that laugh at system that allows them free access to many of the programs that help them stay here in the States.

They really tick me off and I run into them often. Those are the people who do not appreciate MY country and should not be given the right to enjoy it.

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This is a tough issue and people have to chill out or toughen up.

There is a place stuck right in the middle that will take care of the whole situation.

It's up to everyone to take that first step forward.

Lady's Human

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How do you know they are Mexicans? Just because they don't have white skin and speak with a hispanic accent doesn't make them Mexican.

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Mexico is just a conduit for illegals. A very large portion of the illegals that make it to the southeast are from Honduras, Nicaragua, El Salvador or Guatemala but all come through Mexico. I was able to speak with a large group that were doing construction next door, a few years back, and the entire construction group was from Guatemala. There have been several drownings at a State Park where I spend a lot of time. On any given Sunday the beaches at the park will have Hispanic's there in the thousands. All of the drownings were illegals and none were from Mexico. Central American's particularly those from Honduras and Nicaragua are easy to identify because they are very small people compared to those from Mexico.