Don't ask, Don't tell

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

I have to clarify my point..

I don't who you date.

I feel that who you have a relationship with is your own business. I really am put out when people do the PDA thing or start to talk raunchy about "last night". I am not a prude and love a great dirty joke, but when you start to talk about your SO - who I happened to meet at the last party/function/get together- you have overstepped the line.

It's your business, not mine.

I have always been of the mind that you come to work, work, go home- when your homelife follows you in, that's not good.

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The problem with that in the military is that you know EVERYTHING about your battle buddies, and wind up knowing them probably better on most levels than their SO. There is NO privacy in military units whatsoever.

Well, my opinion only, but I believe that if they let gays into the armed forces, then there will be lots of trouble.
And I still hold to the belief that it's only a rights issue.....it's happened here in Australia, and still happening. In the 1960's the White Australia Policy was still the order of the day, the aboriginal peoples actually had their own schools (which their kids never showed up much at), and the whites had their schools. The abo's squealed discrimination etc etc, the law was finally passed and the abo's could attend the same schools as whites.
The outcome ???? The Aboriginals won the RIGHT to go to the same schools, but did they attend those schools ???? NOPE !!!! Nothing changed other than the aboriginals now had the RIGHT !!!!!
And so I believe is the issue now facing you all in the USA.
Wom

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Originally Posted by Lady's Human

Be nice to everyone training, cultural/ethnic/racial/sexual/don't sleep with the commander/his wife/his dog/ training that already takes one training day per week out of the training cycle for mandatory classes.

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Might be safer to sleep with the dog !!!!

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Originally Posted by Lady's Human

The problem with that in the military is that you know EVERYTHING about your battle buddies, and wind up knowing them probably better on most levels than their SO. There is NO privacy in military units whatsoever.

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Understood.

I just hate the idea of people being in love and being happier than I am.:eek:;)

As Blue and Puck said, there were people in my units and people I served with who I KNEW were gay. I didn't give a damn. They were soldiers, got the job done, and that was all I was concerned about.

However, I'm not your average basic trainee, and I've seen what happens in those scenarios. It ain't pretty.

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Originally Posted by Lady's Human

As Blue and Puck said, there were people in my units and people I served with who I KNEW were gay. I didn't give a damn. They were soldiers, got the job done, and that was all I was concerned about.

However, I'm not your average basic trainee, and I've seen what happens in those scenarios. It ain't pretty.

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A question?

I am curious-no, not that way;)- about who incited the 'problems' when they came up.

Just a percentage?

I get the feeling that mean spirited people were the majority.

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In the old days I had a 'harem' I ate lunch with.

We'd walk into the cafeteria and you would hear us before you saw us..

It got back to me that I was gay because people could not figure out how I could 'roll' with so many woman and not be involved with any of them.

I took it as a badge of honor. I loves me my women...and I realized that hate can be a powerful emotion, especially coming from the Neanderthals on the planet.

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Fact-Check: Would the U.S. be alone in allowing gays to openly serve in the military?

According to the Palm Center, a University of California, Santa Barbara-based think tank that studies controversial public policy issues:

-- Twenty-five countries allowed military service by openly gay people as of June 2009.

-- They are: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, Uruguay.

Bottom line: The United States would not be alone in allowing gays to openly serve in the military. As of 2009, there are no fewer than 25 other countries that follow an open policy.

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I want to throw out a France joke......nope, not gonna do it.:D

I personally wish everyone would go back in the closet, straight and gay and whatever. I have no interest in anyone's sex life or lack of one. :rolleyes: :D

I'm in the Don't ask, Don't tell, Don't care group.

As long as you're not hurting children or animals, I don't care what you do in the bedroom.

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Originally Posted by kuhio98

I don't care what you do in the bedroom.

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That was going to be my very next post on this thread, but now I'm not going to tell...hee hee

I was always opposed to the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. It is MY opinion that it is no one's business (not the governments, not mine, not yours) as to one's sexual orientation. And one's sexual orientation has nothing to do with how well one defend's their country.

Hi Donna,
No more discussions from this end downunder on gays, religion or racism.
It's troublesome territory.
I'm outa this thread.
P.S Nice to see you again ;)
Wom

Hey Wom,

Didn't mean to offend you, I was only voicing my opinion. No hard feelings???

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Originally Posted by moosmom

Hey Wom,

Didn't mean to offend you, I was only voicing my opinion. No hard feelings???

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None mate....we all have our own opinions. But I find these subjects kinda get too heated if you know what I mean. And I know in the past my opinions have offended some as I tend to insult if I get too heated up, so I'll just avoid them from now on.
Have a good day mate....and yeah, it's good to be back with you all.
Wom