McCain/Palin ???

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Originally Posted by Puckstop31

Yeah, that damn freedom and our ability to keep OUR money.

This board is SO entertaining.

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Actually, I can not bring myself to ever vote for a person who is against abortion, against same sex marriage, and supports the hunting of apex predators, and even pays people per head on them. I really don't mind if you hunt game animals to use for your own food and resources, but the ecosystem is a lot more delicate than most people care to think. Every little thing is interconnected and drastically reducing numbers of apex predators, like grey and timber wolves, can do quite a lot more harm than it can ever do good. Call me crazy, but I think keeping the ecosystem in balance is jut as important as health care.

In my own little convoluted and delusional mind, people would be smart enough and ethical enough to have an anarchy, but I know that will never happen because not everyone has the same ethics and not everyone is wise enough to leave people who don't think the same way as them alone, or to take it upon themselves to do what they can to help others who may be in need of a little help.

I am probably going to get flamed badly for saying that but that is what I believe in, and I respect everybody's opinion, without first jumping down their throats because it's different from mine. Plus, I know how to use the block feature.

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Originally Posted by lizbud

Zara, do you know the game of Hockey? This guy has taken a few to
many pucks to the head.:D Just consider the source,ok? He's posting again
after a long absence & loves to argue just for the sake of arguement. This
is not to be taken seriously. :)

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Awesome. Somebody gets me. LOL

This BB is so "nanny state", and absurdly PC is is almost comical. You all say it is "for the children". When you say that, a chill runs down my back. if you cared about the kids, you let them learn to fail. You would teach them that sometimes people will do and say things that 'hurt' them or that they disagree with. We need to teach them how to deal with that.

To bury their heads and hide it... The worst thing you can do.

I for one, will teach my daughter to be strong and to stand up and fight for what she believes in. Even if things get rough from time to time. It might not be the "prettiest" thing, but it is the truth and the truth has nothing to hide.

Now I know what you will say... Yes I was a bit harsh in one post here. But I MEANT for it to be. Does not any one else see how harmful equating legally harvesting game animals to MURDER is? Of course we shuld treat our pets with care. We should treat domestic farm animals humanely. We should care for and nurture nature. But to put wildlife on the same level as humans... That is just so like PETA. If that is true, we are ALL criminals because we own pets. If we OWN pets and they are on the same level as us, dose this not make us slave owners?

I'll leave ya all with this. I am not the big meanie I seem to be. I STILL weep for my Teddy. I weep when I think about my daughter and how she is growing up so fast. But I really weep when I see how weak willed we are becoming as a society. How wide open to nanny state fascism we are making ourselves. We are becoming fat and lazy. We look to someone ELSE for the answers to our mostly imagined problems.

So to tie this all back to the main point of this thread. I like Sarah Palin because she is none of the things I describe in the previous paragraph. She is a GOYA (get off you bum) kind of person. She is a person who tells you to look to your self to make your life better, because that is the only way it can REALLY happen. If you look to someone 'else' to make your problems go away, you make yourself nothing but a slave.

So put that in your "consider the source" pipe and smoke it. :)

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Originally Posted by kuhio98

A newcomer COULD be a good idea. She hasn't made deals with anyone to get into power. She hasn't made any promises to big wigs for their support. In her 16+ years in public office, she has had Republicans, Democrats, Independents and Libertarian's on her Staff. She doesn't owe anyone any favors -- and no one party owes her anything.

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Good post.

It's nice to hear the point of view from someone who has some experience with her politics and her accomplishments.

Thanks for posting :)

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Originally Posted by Suki Wingy

Actually, I can not bring myself to ever vote for a person who is against abortion, against same sex marriage, and supports the hunting of apex predators, and even pays people per head on them. I really don't mind if you hunt game animals to use for your own food and resources, but the ecosystem is a lot more delicate than most people care to think. Every little thing is interconnected and drastically reducing numbers of apex predators, like grey and timber wolves, can do quite a lot more harm than it can ever do good. Call me crazy, but I think keeping the ecosystem in balance is jut as important as health care.

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Now this I can get on board with. I do not support hunting just for a pelt if you aren't going to use the meat. I don't know many REAL hunters that do either. But I know there are a lot of buttheads out there that do this. That is not something I will ever agree with.

Ted Nugent was on the Glenn Beck show last night and they were talking about hunting. He was saying that everything he harvests during his hunts he donates to homeless shelters. Every ounce of meat goes to feed starving families. I love that idea. There are a lot of hunters that do the same thing and I think it's wonderful to "spread the wealth" so to speak.

But I don't support hunting strictly for fur or antlers. If you hunt it... EAT IT.

A question from Sarah Palin - What does a VP do??

Apparently, being VP is important someway, somehow . . . . . not too long ago, when there was talk of the possibility that Obama would select Governor Kaine of Virginia as his Vice President, Fox News correspondent Karl Rove said, ''With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a Governor for three years. He's been able, but undistinguished. I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done ... [Kaine] was mayor of the 105th largest city in America. And again, with all due respect to Richmond, Virginia, it's smaller than Chula Vista, California; Aurora, Colorado; Mesa, or Gilbert, Arizona; North Las Vegas, or Henderson, Nevada. It's not a big town.'' . . . . Yet, Kaine is Governor of a state with 8 million compared to Palin with 600,000. And he was mayor of Richmond (200,000) compared to Palin being a mayor to Wasilla (6,000).

Interesting.

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Originally Posted by Bonny

You are a Brit! Why should you be concerned about how we Americans vote or feel about our candidates? This is a free country we all have our separate opinions to the issues at hand & will vote accordingly when the time comes. May the best qualified black, white, male, female, democat, republican, WIN. Oh I love my country the U. S. A. Land of the free home of the brave!!!

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And your point is? Maybe if Zara knew nothing on the subject in question, you could say something to her, but she obviously does. Who cares if she is british? Seriously, enlighten me. This is a public forum FOR PUBLIC opinions, excuse Zara for expressing her thoughts on a PUBLIC MESSAGE BOARD in a free country. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

We could always see it President Camacho from the movie "Idiocracy" is interested in running again.

Now, he was a leader!

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"Shut up, shut up and sit your monkeya** down. Chill out."

****Everyone needs to see this clip (contains adult language)******
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxJnf5tkfoo

Set a mere 500 years into the future, it's us, if we're not careful.




VOTE FOR: Camacho/NotSure for President of America!

Right on Richard. (Idiocracy is in my top movies of all time!)

You people from other countries want to know why some people say to "fear" this woman? If the U.S. is how people define freedom, I'm moving to Cuba. The U.S. is the land where hate crimes are seen as a normal part of daily living and your side winning in each issue can mean the difference between whether or not you can sleep safely at night. Fear is a big part of why some people vote. Sometimes I feel like the religious wars in the middle east are more sedate and peaceful than the political wars in the U.S.

P.S., Note how I don't call the United States by the term "America". This is not America, America covers everything from Canada down to Argentina. Somewhere along the years the people of the U.S. lost their brain power and came to think of our country exclusively as "America". Everytime I hear somebody talk about doing something bad about illegals from Mexico and then in the same breath they say the phrase "God bless America" it makes me sick to think how idiotic they sound. Using the term America to denote the U.S. makes us sound like a bunch of uneducated morons.

Two things I'm sure about ~ No matter who wins the next election....

Almost 50% of the US population will be disappointed

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The US will survive

Luckily, no one person can hold office long enough to destroy the country.

If we only had 1 political party, we would have doomed ourselves long ago.

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Note how I don't call the United States by the term "America". This is not America, America covers everything from Canada down to Argentina.

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In most senses, people use "The Americas" to refer to the continents, and America to refer to The United States of America. This does not make us ignorant. After all, we refer to ourselves as "Americans" - not as United Statesians. I am not saying that other residents of North America, South America and Central America aren't "American" in that they live in The Americas, but each country has its own designation for nationality.

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Originally Posted by rosethecopycat

"Shut up, shut up and sit your monkeya** down. Chill out."

VOTE FOR: Camacho/NotSure for President of America!

Right on Richard. (Idiocracy is in my top movies of all time!)

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I came in in the middle of the movie and was mildly offended. Then I had to watch the whole thing to find out why. Seems that I was laughing all the way through. It was very entertaining and a real statement as to how 'dumbed down' we will get in the next few years.


Gotta go, I got a BRAWNDO in the fridge.....;)

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Originally Posted by IRescue452

P.S., Note how I don't call the United States by the term "America". This is not America, America covers everything from Canada down to Argentina. Somewhere along the years the people of the U.S. lost their brain power and came to think of our country exclusively as "America".

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Then explain this to me?:confused:

http://abc.go.com/primetime/uglybett...=actor&d=27065

Record fish caught on toy rod

A man in the US has managed to catch and land a record-breaking catfish on a Barbie fishing rod just 2-and-a-half feet long.

David Hayes and his 3-year-old granddaughter Alyssa were angling in the pond behind his Wilkes County home when she asked him to hold her rod while she nipped to the loo.

"They hadn't no more than closed the door than the cat hit the cricket and took off," Mr Hayes told the Hickory Daily Record.

"He turned the water over and I saw his tail was about as wide as my two hands."

Alyssa returned to find her grandad battling with the monster fish.

"She said, 'Papa, you're going to break my rod,' because it was bent double," said Mr Hayes.

After 25 minutes, the pink plastic toy prevailed and Mr Hayes landed the 21 lbs,1oz catfish on the 6 lbs test line.

At 32 inches long, it was 2 inches longer than the rod.

A state fisheries biologist from North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission has certified the record, which was nearly three pounds over the previous mark.

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I wonder if they make a Sarah Palin Signature Model?:confused:

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Originally Posted by IRescue452

You people from other countries want to know why some people say to "fear" this woman? If the U.S. is how people define freedom, I'm moving to Cuba. The U.S. is the land where hate crimes are seen as a normal part of daily living and your side winning in each issue can mean the difference between whether or not you can sleep safely at night. Fear is a big part of why some people vote. Sometimes I feel like the religious wars in the middle east are more sedate and peaceful than the political wars in the U.S.

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Thanks for your opinion on my question.

Whilst I very much enjoyed my recent visit to the USA and found 99.9% of the people very polite, accepting and friendly, there were certain things that caught my eye as being not quite right, in my view.

Not that I expected everything to be the way it is in the UK. Our people and government are far from perfect too. Just the way a few people phrased things, and things I noticed about some people made me think, "There really are still some boundaries here." I think the fear comment just reminded me of that.

Can't say I saw any 'hate crimes', but I am not a US resident so I wouldn't know. I did however watch a lot of coverage of the election, and saw that there is a surprising amount of mud slinging in that.

Obama, the biggest celebrity in the world? Hardly.

The majority of people I met were like the majority of people on PT, kind and curteous and non-prejudiced. I therefore have no doubt that 99.9% of Americans will vote fairly and intelligently.

Zara,

In my 55 years have never seen an election WITHOUT mud slinging. It's pathetic. It's like two kids, "nanner, nanner, nanner". That's why I don't discuss politics or religion for that matter. It just stirs up alot of dirt, gets people PO'd and causes arguments.

Stay strong, girl. You are far more mature in your years than some of the trolls on this board. That's why I like you so much!!!

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Originally Posted by Miss Z

Thanks for your opinion on my question.

Whilst I very much enjoyed my recent visit to the USA and found 99.9% of the people very polite, accepting and friendly, there were certain things that caught my eye as being not quite right, in my view.


The majority of people I met were like the majority of people on PT, kind and curteous and non-prejudiced. I therefore have no doubt that 99.9% of Americans will vote fairly and intelligently.

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Someone circulated a memorandum saying that you were coming-we had to be on our best behavior!;)

I hope you are correct in thinking we will vote intelligently.I only pray that is the case.:)