Have You Decided Yet?

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Originally Posted by RICHARD

The thing that angers me the most are the lame promises regarding health care that everyone seem to be "operating" with.

A little investigation and anyone would see the idea of health care for everyone is a pipe dream.

Doctor's do not like to deal with the feds because of the delay in paying for services.

Fraud is a huge concern - Docs and patients do it...

Costs will go up. Usually that happens when the pockets paying for medical care get really deep.

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And what is wrong with dreams?

This week we received a note from the woman who delivers one of our newspapers. She is a single mother of three. Who gets up in the middle of the night while her children sleep to deliver our paper. She has never missed a day. The paper is in the right spot every day.

But newpaper delivery people do not have medical insurance. And she has cancer and needs surgery. Her pockets aren't very deep. She will be out of work for two months.

Pipe dream?

A friend of mine has a medical condition -- lupus. She nearly died and was on kidney dialysis ten years ago. She is doing well now and working. Her medical insurance is through her husband's employer. They changed carriers and he made a mistake on the paperwork. So the insurance company dropped her (and their two kids.) I am trying to help her straighten it out (I know some of the magic words due to my profession.) Meanwhile she is cutting her medicine in half because she is afraid of the cost and what will happen because of her pre-existing condition. Oh yeah...her husband just found out his employer is going to have a layoff next week. So it may not matter. And it is past the 30 days for a Change in Status enrollment, etc, etc.

Pipe dream? Doesn't every change start as a pipe dream?

I don't have very much experience in the health insurance industry but I can tell you that there is a difference between pipe dreams and reality.

I am very much in favor of med insurance for everyone. But the reality is that there are forces - pharm companies, med supply companies, implant companies, docs and the other people involved in providing health care that do not want, nor care for more government involvement.

Ask any physician about billing and the feds.

Here's another hint about why Fed Insurance won't work.

Should the gov't. start insuring medically they will look into the costs and investigating why the prices are so outrageous. Companies like Baxter, Smith and Nephew will Medtronics will fight tooth and nail to keep their golden goose alive.

I have seen the prices of sutures, screws and plates, implanted defibrillators...I wish I could fleece - I mean sell product to hospitals.

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The health plan I worked for had a plan to save money and reward the docs who could save the most.

A friend took his son to a satellite clinic (same company I worked for) his son fell and bumped his arm.
NO X-RAY, just an ace band-aid, aspirin and little "bend your arm".

Later on that evening the kid woke up screaming - the second visit revealed a broken arm.

Crappy health care is a reality. I had to make sure my I.D. badge was off because if I walked into a public area with it on I'd always get the, "Oh, you work for XXXXXX? You killed my Mom, sister, brother....."

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Every change does start with a pipe dream, But you have to be ready for the people you are going to pi$$ off when you light up in a No Smoking area.

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Originally Posted by Pam

....but I am amazed that this group is the best we could come up with. :confused:

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this is not the best group of possible candidates for president of the united states. these 3 are the ones with the deepest pockets, most hustle and the most lobbyist chips called in. several of the other candidates were, in my opinion, much much better choices, but their lack of money and the medias' lack of attention and fawning over their (the talking heads) own personal choices' ... ( hear that chris matthews you pompous gasbag, hear that druggie limbaugh you waste of DNA...) helped push those more talented and capable choices out of the running; these aren't the the best we could we do, but they are the best we've got. and to think, one of those three will sleep the house thomas jefferson walked in, the rooms where abraham lincoln saved the union of the united states, and where franklin roosevelt, with a whole lotta help from prime minister churchill and general marshall saved western civil society where dwight eisenhower helped create the most amazing system of interstate roads, where lyndon johnson broke the back of jim crow . it's MY house da^&^T and i want better tenants and i pray the great g*d one of those 3.....senators....lives up to those great dreams and responsibilities. we've not had that level of service and ability the last 32 years and we the people deserve better.

....and oh yeah....IF it was one of the romney sons/ groupies who sent john mccains' birth certificate to the papres with the panama canal hospital highlighted....fie on your house and shame on your head. remember your grandpa george romney? i do. he was born in mexico and ineligible, his parents weren't on active duty in service to this country. i am not at all a supported of senator mccain, yet he and his family have given more in honor and blood to this country then any romney ever did. and i speak as someone old enough to have know former governor george romney, who left to serve as richard nixons sec. of housing and urban development........
this kind of rovian sleeze is beyond disgusting. what ever you think about senator mccains' actions in the senate and afterwards, what he endured in OUR name and for us in hanoi, there is no doubt he is a man of honor and respect in this regard. i do not use the word hero lightly, and yet, senator mccain lived that word and action. and where were the romneys at that time? why safely stateside making money..... time for me to sign off tonight, i'm getting too wound up.

....and upon further thought, and some sleep...i should say i do not know that a romney supporter pushed the born in panama issue as a method of trying to disqualify senator mccain. i did hear it on the radio, but i did not hear the source, so i cannot cite it....

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Originally Posted by lizbud

Have you made up your mind yet?

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Yes, it was an easy choice for me. :D I am hoooooping we get a nice high turnout in my age bracket this election (20-somethings)!!! Enough with the apathy already!

No, I haven't decided. I got a phone call yesterday asking me who I would be supporting and I just don't know! Kind of drives me crazy!

I just heard he story about the Clinton supporter getting shanked.

I diudn't hear all the details, but I had to laugh about it.

Talk about Political Infighting!


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A few things that I have noticed.

When you excuse yourself to blow your nose, don't leave your snotrag at the podium.

When your spouse talks to supporters, your better half not to discourage the supporters from working for certain companies or industries.... :rolleyes:

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I have found some infomericials on T.V. to be filled with more promise than all of the debates.

Well, I have finally decided who to vote for. :) I have often found
myself saying, a woman could do a whole lot better in leading a nation
then the crop of men we've had lately. So I've decided it is time to give
it a try. :) Think what you will about the lady's personality, she is sooo
qualified to lead our country.

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Originally Posted by lizbud

Well, I have finally decided who to vote for. :) I have often found
myself saying, a woman could do a whole lot better in leading a nation
then the crop of men we've had lately. So I've decided it is time to give
it a try. :) Think what you will about the lady's personality, she is sooo
qualified to lead our country.

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Oh, I dunno! Being married to a President doesn't mean you are qualified to be one any more than sitting in a shoe qualifies you to be a shoe. ;) :D

AND when the phone rings at 3 am at the White House, it will be an aid who answers, not the President.

I think my big problem with her is her husband. He wouldn't be able to let her BE the president. I just can't take any more of him. I have nightmares about him being her Vice Pres. But that's my problem. :D :D

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Originally Posted by lizbud

Well, I have finally decided who to vote for. :) I have often found
myself saying, a woman could do a whole lot better in leading a nation
then the crop of men we've had lately. So I've decided it is time to give
it a try. :) Think what you will about the lady's personality, she is sooo
qualified to lead our country.

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I am just hoping that Obama gets the nomination. I have concerns about McCain and I know that barring someone holding a gun to my head I couldn't vote for Hillary. Should she win the nomination this might just be the first time in all my years of voting that I just stay home. :(

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Originally Posted by Pam

I am just hoping that Obama gets the nomination. I have concerns about McCain and I know that barring someone holding a gun to my head I couldn't vote for Hillary. Should she win the nomination this might just be the first time in all my years of voting that I just stay home. :(

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What??? Did she used to be a neighbor or something? What has she done
that drives you crazy? :)

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Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces

Oh, I dunno! Being married to a President doesn't mean you are qualified to be one any more than sitting in a shoe qualifies you to be a shoe. ;) :D

AND when the phone rings at 3 am at the White House, it will be an aid who answers, not the President.

I think my big problem with her is her husband. He wouldn't be able to let her BE the president. I just can't take any more of him. I have nightmares about him being her Vice Pres. But that's my problem. :D :D

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Heeehehheeeee, so true. :)

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Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces

Oh, I dunno! Being married to a President doesn't mean you are qualified to be one any more than sitting in a shoe qualifies you to be a shoe. ;) :D

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There was the First Lady who almost gave the prez, the shoe!
She had so many ideas, she didn't know what to do!

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Can't Mary Carey run for president? :D

if it's important enough to get POTUS up at 3 am, you know bloody good and well that the joint chiefs of staff ALL of the military services, the presidents chief of staff, the national security advisor, sec of defense, the heads of the cia, fbi , homeland security and maybe one supreme court justice and the attorney general ,as well as a few secret service agents are already downstairs in the secure room waiting. and the press secretary is being sent for as well. pretty likely the british, canadian, aussie, french, russian and chinese ambassadors as well as the sec general of the un and a few more i can't think of right now are also being called by the white house staff as well. POTUS gets up at 3 am, no one sleeps in. and why oh why does it take 6 rings to answer it? that aide needs to be fired who lets 'the red phone ring that long. (robo calls tonight are getting on my nerves :rolleyes: :D )