same here. poor Daisy. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by animal_rescue
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same here. poor Daisy. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by animal_rescue
Just a dog???? There's the problemQuote:
Originally Posted by timlewis
I knew when I saw the title of this thread it was a mistake coming in here.
Guess you got the attention you wanted. Get Daisy to a rescue and it would probably be a good idea if you never got a dog again. You don't deserve to own one.
I certanly hope that Daisy finds a forever homes that will keep her indoors as apart of a family, and give her the love devotion and care that all dogs need..
Honestly The only was I cant see a 6 month old puppy (of any breed) protecting anyone.. And it only aggrivates me to know that people buy these dogs to harm people.. (feel bad for that mailman ;))
My dogs were NEVER trained to harm a human, but I'm sure if I was in danger one of them if not all would step up and protect me because I took the times to make a pack mantality with them.. I love them, and they love me in return.
Well, if she goes to your brother in law, I'd be willing to bet money that he'll breed her. Real nice life to give a dog. And if you think "dogs are just dogs" then do the poor dogs (or any animal, for that matter) a HUGE favor and don't ever get any more animals. If your kids are so important to you, why did you even get a dog in the first place? You're teaching your kids that animals are disposable, like pieces of property, and they aren't. How about teaching your kids about love and responsibility? And if you want protection, be a man and go about it yourself. Honestly, I don't even know why you came back if you don't want to listen to us. Poor dog. I really feel badly for her. She doesn't deserve what you've done to her or her doomed future.Quote:
Originally Posted by timlewis
Tim thankyou for most likely adding to the already huge animal over population... good work.
Goodluck Daisy :(.
I realize I'm coming in at the tail end of this discussion but I feel like I need to put in my two cents also.
As hard as it may seem, I think I know where Tim is coming from. Please understand that even though this feels like de ja vu to me, I do not condone any of his thoughts or practices of dog ownership.
Many years ago, I lived in Virginia in "coal mining country". I was married with two young children. My husband(now ex husband) and his entire family worked in the coal mines. Let me point out, I'm not stereotyping coal miners either. It's just a coincidence that that was also their profession. The universal mentality was that dogs stayed outside, they needed very little training, all the dogs in the yard had a "job", and if they weren't able to do their jobs, they needed to be, for the lack of a better term; disposed of. If you could find a better home, for whatever the reason or purpose, that was your first option. If you could get back some of the cash you had invested, that would be an even better deal. If not, whatever. If another home was unavailable, that dog would just be ..........(fill in the blank).
As I recall, Tim got this dog to protect his family. We all remember the ear cropping style that was chosen so Daisy could look "meaner" and scare away unwanted visitors. Daisy has required more training than Tim has time to do and he would be the only person designated to train Daisy. I'm thinking that training Daisy would be a job done by only the man of the house.
It has turned out that Daisy didn't "automatically" measure up as she should have so she needs to go. Tim is probably aggravated with the situation because now he has an unsuitable dog on his property and his family still needs protection. After the time and expense, Tim and his family are back to square one. What is he going to do now?
Tim, I don't mean this to be disrespectful to you at all. I can just see the people on this board, reading this saga in complete disbelief. Most of us don't think like this and that's why so many people are having such a hard time understanding your rationale in this situation. Please understand, Tim, that you're not of the same school that the people on this board are. You and Pet Talk are almost 100% on two completely different pages.
I am not surprised this happened at all. What does surprise me is that you would come back and ask advice from the members of this board after all you've already been through here. Surely, you know you don't think like the pet owners here. I can't imagine why you came here asking for advice again when you knew what would happen.
I hope you are able to rehome that beautiful girl of your's and she's able to live a happy life. Hopefully, she is spayed right away and not turned into a breeding machine. So she didn't work out for you, Tim. Maybe she can become a wonderful pet for some loving family. She deserves a better life than what she's had so far. :( :( :(
Very good post. While I understand that not everyone wants to spend 100 dollars on a dog waterer and another 200 on a dog bed just like theirs, I also cannot understand why someone would seem to be uncaring about the future of the animal they took in. It seems uncaring because he said he didn't care about whether she was bred or not and that makes me sad.
I wish Daisy the best of luck in a good life, she deserves it. It is not her fault she doesn't "measure up". She wasn't trained, is not allowed to be with her "pack", and has no choice in the matter. Having owned this breed, it hurts my heart to see her.
I don't doubt Tim cares for her in his own way, but I cannot fathom feeling that way about my dog, and I just wish I hadn't had to see it, even though it's not unexpected.
Some people see dogs as "just dogs." It is an old-fashioned outlook but to each his own. You can't tell someone to feel something that he simply does not. Maybe the BIL's home is not the ideal situation but perhaps it will be better than this one. See the glass as half full. The way I look at it these days, people will keep or rehome dogs as they please...Visa was rehomed with me and I couldn't have been happier. Sometimes it works out for the best.
I'm sorry you didn't get the security system you were hoping for. With so much time spent at work, perhaps a dog is not an ideal pet for you. It would be much cheaper and less time consuming and stressful if you just went with a regular security system -- extra locks, automatic lights, alarm (maybe one of those dog bark alarms that goes off when someone is at the door), etc. Unfortunatly dogs are very give and take with their uses. They don't do what you want without expecting something in return. For a high energy breed such as a boxer, alot of training and exercise is a must. An outside dog needs twice as much training and exercise as one that lives indoors and recieves all sorts of stimulation.
Oh boy, I don't think people realize how upsetting it is for me to see these kind of posts. I apologize in advance for my bluntness, but these situations really get to me.
Tim, take that poor dog to a rescue! Don't sell her to your brother in law, take her streight to a rescue. If you care about her so much, then you will be able to turn down $600 to make sure she ends up in a home that has been specially screened to make sure that the family that adopts her can care for her forever. And if you absolutely must sell her to your brother in law, spay her first.
I really don't understand why you got her. You knew boxers needed alot of work and you also knew you didn't have the time. And do you honestly think that a dog that is kept isolated to the backyard with no training, not nearly enough interaction and stimulation and no exercise is going to protect your family!? Your doing the bare minimum for her, treating her like she's nothing more than a dog or an animal to have, why should she do anything for you? If you keep this dog, she'll probably end up aggressive and you won't even be able to trust her with your children none the less expect her to protect them.
Tim, I thought you and Daisy were happy togather, I really thought you were the perfect owner for her, I loved seeing pictures of her. But now this whole thread just disgusts me. If you get a dog, you are responsible for everything it needs, and that includes training. Your excuse has to be the stupidest one I've seen yet. Your only getting rid of her because you don't know how to train her? Can't you get a book online or something. There are plenty out there. If you knew she was going to be hyper with small children, why did you get her? She is such a beautiful dog, and she doesn't deserve this. I really hope you rehome her, for her sake.
I have trained my own dog, and as Briana said if a 14 year old can train one, so can you. You just have to be patient.
As a dog owner, you need to make the right decisions for your dog, and giving her to your brother-in-law to breed is just the opposite. PLEASE, put her in a rescue. I have no clue who your brother-in-law is, but if he's inexpeirenced with breeding, then Daisy could possibly loose her life. She is much better off just being a dog with someone who won't breed her, she'll have no stress. I am fully for the rescue choice, but overall she is your dog and I have no say in what you do with her. I just hope her life turns out oka in the end. :(
if you HONESTLY think giving her to your BIL, spay her! Your getting your money back from her anyways, so you can take that $600 and invest it in some good animal respect classes!
I know this reply is a bit late, and I'm basically repeating what others have said.
Please take Daisy to a rescue, or at least spay her before you give her to your BIL! Spaying her or giving her to the rescue may be the best thing that you'll ever do for Daisy. You are an example for you kids... do you want them to think that an animal is just something to throw away because it's convienent for you? That is one of the most important lessons in life... to respect creatures. They are living and breathing and they DO have feelings. If you just sell Daisy without even caring if she's bred or not, your kids will learn that dogs are just objects and can be 'sold' at free will. Obviously, your kids will not learn to respect animals from you, so I hope they learn this from someone else.
As for Daisy, how can you not care what happens to a dog that you supposedly 'love'? This is absolutely heartbreaking.. I feel awful for Daisy. She loves you with all her heart, even though she's been somewhat neglected and you don't seem to care for her. This is really saddening.. I wish Daisy the best of luck to wherever she goes. She deserves a loving home, with a family who deeply cares for her.
For some reason you all dont understand that just because she is outside doesnt mean she is being neglected. I was hoping someone could tell me an easy way to train her to quit jumping on and running over my kids, so i could train her in what limited time i have. Someone said 15 to 20 mins a day how can u train a dog in that amount of time? But anyway despite what you may think of me I will do what is best for Daisy as i see fit. And if i cant get her to quit running over my kids then it WILL be selling her to my BIL. Now if you can tell me how to train her in 15 to 20 mins a day i may try that if not thank you all for your opinions.
You can't train her completely in 15 minutes. What I said was that it doesn't sound like you do anything for her, mentally. Those 15 minutes a day will make a big difference if you put in an effort.
I hope you get her spayed before you sell her.
I feel so bad for Daisy....... :(:(
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Originally Posted by timlewis
And I Didnt Say 15 Minutes. I Said 15 Minutes A Day!