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03-10-2007, 07:33 PM
wombat2u2004

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Originally Posted by Marigold2

Hey Karen my favorite color is plaid. :p

:eek: You never told me that before !!!!!
:confused: Wom
03-10-2007, 07:37 PM
Daisy and Delilah

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Originally Posted by lizbud

Well, we just risked the last 8 years to a complete nincompoop, I seriously
doubt ANY woman could be worse than he was.

In my humble opinion. :)

I couldn't agree more!!! This sums up the entire situation in a nutshell.

Marigold: Good for you, starting this thread. I think you've got something here!! I would vote for Hilary in a heartbeat!! :)
03-10-2007, 07:38 PM
Sophist

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Originally Posted by lizbud

In fact, the very same things could be said of almost every one of the
people who have or will run for national office. So what's new?

There is a difference between lip service, persuasive speaking, weasel words, and campaign hyperbole, and Hilary.

A far as I have ever been able to discern, the woman doesn't have a genuine, deep-seated, long-term conviction in her entire body. Not one issue she can even begin to convince me she really is passionate and committed to, and not just trying to tell people what they want to hear about it.

You can pick almost any other slimy, flip-flopping, double-speaking, backpeddling politician and find at least one or two points they have stuck to and shown some dedication to.

Hilary?---maybe promotion of herself, or the seeking of glory.

Any doubt about this subject should have been obliterated for the average person when she magically morphed from southern Christian to New York Jew overnight for the sake of an election :rolleyes: .
03-10-2007, 07:42 PM
Sophist

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Originally Posted by Cataholic

Liz, I agree!

I find it odd that we are willing to put our faith in a male president for four years....essentially, just waiting to see what they do (as they promise), but, when it comes to a woman, there are just too many "unknowns" for most of us to be comfortable.

Ah, sexism. Alive and well!

Ah, but we aren't putting our faith in them just to see what a MAN will do. We put our faith in them because of what we hope that individual will do. It was posted that we should vote for a woman just to see what would happen... it is not sexist to insist we will not vote for a candidate just out of curiousity toawrds how their sex organs will affect the office.

The point was clearly made that those of us who disagreed with the statement thought that the individual in question for an office was a much bigger consideration that their plumbing.
03-10-2007, 07:44 PM
Sophist

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Originally Posted by Cataholic

Anyone that holds, "I wouldn't vote for anyone on the basis of their gender", how many of you have voted for someone simply because of their party affilitation?

Not me, not me!

I have never voted straight ticket.

After registering in my chosen political party at 18, the very first vote I ever cast was for a candidate of another party.

I'd say I tend to vote for and with my party maybe 60-70% of the time.
03-10-2007, 07:49 PM
Marigold2

I remember a young president some say a great president standing in a foreign city many years ago and saying "Ich bin ine Berlinger"
03-10-2007, 07:51 PM
Marigold2

I think this is pet talk at it's best. Here we are calmly and kindly discussing the future of the world. Hey that's pretty cool.
03-10-2007, 07:54 PM
Sophist

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Originally Posted by Marigold2

I remember a young president some say a great president standing in a foreign city many years ago and saying "Ich bin ine Berlinger"

There is a difference between lip-service solidarity clearly meant to show symbolic brotherhood with a troubled people, and fudging residency to qualify for an office, or expecting people to really believe you've secretly always been in your heart a Jew while you were working the Southern Christians as 'your people'.

I mean, Kennedy didn't use that statement to run for German political office, trying to dupe everyone into actually believing he was a good ol' boy from their side of the wall. Hilary did in New York. The saddest part is that she pulled it off.
03-10-2007, 07:55 PM
wombat2u2004

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Originally Posted by Marigold2

I remember a young president some say a great president standing in a foreign city many years ago and saying "Ich bin ine Berlinger"

And that means ? " I have an itch in germany somewhere ???"
Who said that ??? The president of the cooties club ???
Wom
03-10-2007, 07:59 PM
Daisy and Delilah

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Originally Posted by wombat2u2004

And that means ? " I have an itch in germany somewhere ???"
Who said that ??? The president of the cooties club ???
Wom

Thanks for the belly laugh!!! I love you wombat!!! :D :) :D :) :D

president of the cooties club......ROTFL :D :D :D :D
03-10-2007, 08:01 PM
Sophist

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Originally Posted by Marigold2

I remember a young president some say a great president standing in a foreign city many years ago and saying "Ich bin ine Berlinger"

Just for poos and giggles, here's the clearly non-deceptive quote in a bit of context:

“ Two thousand years ago the proudest boast was civis romanus sum [I am a Roman citizen]. Today, in the world of freedom, the proudest boast is 'Ich bin ein Berliner'...All free men, wherever they may live, are citizens of Berlin, and, therefore, as a free man, I take pride in the words 'Ich bin ein Berliner!' „

That's a bit different than, for example, Hilary becoming a Jew after taking a huge hit in the polls for getting cozy with the Arafats, and having campaign workers and multiple witnesses confirm they'd heard her use ethnic slurs towards a Jewish politician, and a lack of support for Israel.
03-10-2007, 08:02 PM
Marigold2

Hi Wom,

That was a young JFK saying in German " I am a Berliner" what he meant is that he can relate to the germans and to all people regardless of where they are from. We all have the same hopes, wishes and dreams. To do well, do love and be loved. To be excepted for who we are. And to have Hilary be our next president.:cool:
03-10-2007, 08:05 PM
Marigold2

Hi Sophist,

No need to get your knickers in a twist. If you don't like her that's fine. Don't vote for her. Maybe she was trying to be funny. Remember funny?
03-10-2007, 08:09 PM
Edwina's Secretary

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Originally Posted by Sophist

That's a bit different than, for example, Hilary becoming a Jew after taking a huge hit in the polls for getting cozy with the Arafats,

Hillary converted???? When was that? And there is more than one Arafat? I thought him dead?

Oy vey.... I am confused. :confused: :confused:
03-10-2007, 08:12 PM
Sophist

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Originally Posted by Marigold2

Hi Sophist,

No need to get your knickers in a twist. If you don't like her that's fine. Don't vote for her. Maybe she was trying to be funny. Remember funny?

I am not at all upset, and wasn't it you who was just saying how beautiful it was, PT at its best, that no one was resorting to insults? Maybe I am recalling incorrectly...

And she was not trying to be funny.

I don't mean this in a mean way, if you can believe that, but how much research have you actually done on Hilary?

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