New Puppy and Cat has given Birth to 2 kittens

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Originally Posted by Riptide

Aww, congrats Lori! Can't wait to see pictures! :D

I'm gonna voice my opinion, too, but I'll try not to start anything, lol.

As said before, accidents do indeed happen. True, it may have been a better choice to get the cats spayed earlier on, but the fact is that they werent this time. -shrugs- The cats got out, and the pregancies were by accident. Guys, chances are that most of you have had an experience with a pet getting out of the gate, etc, by pure accident. Take Glacier and her dog, Delta, for example. Delta was missing, it was a huge deal, because she loves Delta. Did PT not support Glacier and Delta through their troubles? It is no different here. Please stop attacking Lori for an accident. Instead, we should be supporting her and offering our advice and knowledge (in a KIND way) so she can successfully raise the wonderful kittens, and hopefully prevent an accident like this from happening again ^^

You have my support all the way ^^

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I agree with you 110% :).

In another forum I belong to somebody told be that 1 out of 4 dogs in a shelter are purebred. I just love all of the opps purebred litters we get every year too!!!

I'm tired of seeing Glacier/Tamara brought up in these controversial threads as an example when one has nothing to do with the other. It seems to happen constantly and it's always Glacier brought into these things, why? :confused: I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think it is rude. She has had nothing to do with this thread and shouldn't be mentioned and made into an analogy.

I was using her as an example simply because her and Delta's situation relates to this one pretty well. The whole getting out thing, I mean.

I agree k9soul and I almost posted the same response.

UGH I didn't want to post but Glacier and Delta were compeltely different and that didn't cause more unnecessary animals brought into the world so comparing the two is totally different and I see no reason to have brought that up at all. One has absolutely nothing to do with the other. She has stated she doesn't want advice and knowledge, since she's been breeding longer than most of us have been alive...some people don't want advice or information if it doesn't go along with what they want to hear.

Did you not read my reply? I was relating them only to the fact that Delta got out by accident, and PT supported them. I was not trying to be rude in any way, and I certainly wasnt saying that they brought "unwanted" animals into the world :confused:

And the reason Lori doesnt want to hear it is that so many people have just started attacking her for something that is out of her control right now.

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Originally Posted by Riptide

Aww, congrats Lori! Can't wait to see pictures! :D

I'm gonna voice my opinion, too, but I'll try not to start anything, lol.

As said before, accidents do indeed happen. True, it may have been a better choice to get the cats spayed earlier on, but the fact is that they werent this time. -shrugs- The cats got out, and the pregancies were by accident. Guys, chances are that most of you have had an experience with a pet getting out of the gate, etc, by pure accident. Take Glacier and her dog, Delta, for example. Delta was missing, it was a huge deal, because she loves Delta. Did PT not support Glacier and Delta through their troubles? It is no different here. Please stop attacking Lori for an accident. Instead, we should be supporting her and offering our advice and knowledge (in a KIND way) so she can successfully raise the wonderful kittens, and hopefully prevent an accident like this from happening again ^^

You have my support all the way ^^

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This is well said, but I see this as a pet lover and animal lover board. We say what we say for the love of the animals that don't know any better, but we should. Many of us have our opinions because we have seen and heard stories of the horrific things that happen to animals due to over population.

Yes there are times when an oops litter can happen and can be acceptable in my opinion. For example my dog Jimmy couldn’t get fixed because he had heartworm (he has since been fixed and HW negative) All the other dogs in my house are fixed and no dog has ever jumped our fence. I watched Jimmy to make sure he never got out. After all that if he got out and got a someone pregnant somehow, I’d hope I’d have support here. This didn’t happen, but it could have if I let my guard down even one time. I didn’t.

yes but you should NOT bring Delta in this thread. IT'S two differnent things and two different animals. We arn't mad about her cats gettting out, are we?

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Originally Posted by K9soul

I'm tired of seeing Glacier/Tamara brought up in these controversial threads as an example when one has nothing to do with the other. It seems to happen constantly and it's always Glacier brought into these things, why? :confused: I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think it is rude. She has had nothing to do with this thread and shouldn't be mentioned and made into an analogy.

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I agree. Totally different situation.

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Originally Posted by Riptide

And the reason Lori doesnt want to hear it is that so many people have just started attacking her for something that is out of her control right now.

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We aren't having a problem with her caring for them. "Out of her control right now" I have a problem with the "right now" part. It was in her control.

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Originally Posted by My Peanuts

Yes there are times when an oops litter can happen and can be acceptable in my opinion. For example my dog Jimmy couldn’t get fixed because he had heartworm (he has since been fixed and HW negative) All the other dogs in my house are fixed and no dog has ever jumped our fence. I watched Jimmy to make sure he never got out. After all that if he got out and got a someone pregnant somehow, I’d hope I’d have support here. This didn’t happen, but it could have if I let my guard down even one time. I didn’t.

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you would get the support because you CAN'T neuter Jimmy. She could have spayed her cats but didn't to it in time

No, she didnt spay them in time, but you'll have to live with that fact. I still see no reason for being rude to her.

I'd also like to add that when these topics come up I don't hate the person, I hate the situation.

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Originally Posted by Riptide

No, she didnt spay them in time, but you'll have to live with that fact. I still see no reason for being rude to her.

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My comments, as well as probably everyone else, are because of my love for animals. If this happened and she came on here and was upset with herself or with the situation (not the kittens) then I'd support and defend her. This isn't a legitimate "oops litter." Yes it was an accident, but there is no remorse.